More school shootings (but now's not the time to talk about it)

[Jay Bee]

Arrest them, right?

In this case... perhaps. Need to learn more. #MedicalHold

[GooooMarquette]

Some of you folks are sick.

It's cute you think you have an easy answer to nutcases killing innocent people, but man...

POTUS is the only person who thinks there are simple solutions to complex problems.

I don't think anyone proposing stricter gun laws thinks they'll solve the problem... but they would be a good START.

[tower912]

But the problems won't be solved by thoughts and prayers and demonizing.

[Pakuni]

In this case... perhaps. Need to learn more. #MedicalHold

Hold them where? The nation hit a record low in 2016 for psychiatric beds, down 13 percent from just 2010. According to one study, demand exceeds what's available by more than 123,000 beds.
#realitycheck
#ratherbuildawall
#$30millionmilitaryparade

[Jay Bee]

Hold them where? The nation hit a record low in 2016 for psychiatric beds, down 13 percent from just 2010. According to one study, demand exceeds what's available by more than 123,000 beds.
#realitycheck
#ratherbuildawall
#$30millionmilitaryparade

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/17/2014-welfare-waste-dwarfs-forced-military-cuts-by-25/

etc., etc.

[Jockey]

I'm just shocked this has happened again.  Shocked.  How have all those thoughts and prayers not worked?!?

Bump stocks remain legal.  I'm just stunned. 

Again, if nothing changed after a bunch of 6 and 7 years-olds were killed nothing ever will. 

I'm just tired of it.  F*ck the NRA.  And f*ck you if you support that organization.

+1000000

[Pakuni]

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/17/2014-welfare-waste-dwarfs-forced-military-cuts-by-25/

etc., etc.

Cool. The government should do more to eliminate waste in the welfare system.
Doesn't make the wall or military parade any less stupid, or you're medical hold suggestion any less impossible.
And that's ignoring how hard it is to get a medical hold in the first place.

[#UnleashSean]

I'll be curious to see how he got the AR-15.

No reason for any civilian to own a weapon like that.

To be fair I have a 30.06 semi automatic hunting rifle which has farther range and stopping power then a .223 Ar-15. Don't be confused by one being wood and one being a military design.

[naginiF]

That is a shame because if we have learned anything about our American culture is that if a foreigner, or Islam, or anything other than a typical American is to blame we will do something about it.

If it is your average American who did this absolutely nothing, nada, will meaningfully be done about it.

You forgot to add 'robot' or 'automated solution' to the list.  if a robot was ever bold enough to cut into a decent American's opportunity to slaughter other Americans we'd see change because the headline would scream "The Robots are coming after YOUR guns!"

[naginiF]

To be fair I have a 30.06 semi automatic hunting rifle which has farther range and stopping power then a .223 Ar-15. Don't be confused by one being wood and one being a military design.

And do you have this semi automatic hunting rifle for the sole purpose of hunting with it when you obtain a license to do so with it?

if the answer is "yes", would you have any issue with having the gun registered and held at the hunting licensing office where you would check it in and out for your hunting expeditions?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

To be fair I have a 30.06 semi automatic hunting rifle which has farther range and stopping power then a .223 Ar-15. Don't be confused by one being wood and one being a military design.

I'm not a hunter nor do I really comprehend that hobby but that's a different conversation all together. My question would be is that kind of weapon necessary for hunting?  Does it hold high capacity magazines?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

And do you have this semi automatic hunting rifle for the sole purpose of hunting with it when you obtain a license to do so with it?

if the answer is "yes", would you have any issue with having the gun registered and held at the hunting licensing office where you would check it in and out for your hunting expeditions?

Great questions.

[Mutaman]

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/17/2014-welfare-waste-dwarfs-forced-military-cuts-by-25/

etc., etc.

"By far the largest source of improper payments, at $45.8 billion, was the Medicare program, which posted a 12.7 percent error rate. "
http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/17/2014-welfare-waste-dwarfs-forced-military-cuts-by-25/

Medicare is welfare?

[Tugg Speedman]

I'm not a hunter nor do I really comprehend that hobby but that's a different conversation all together. My question would be is that kind of weapon necessary for hunting?  Does it hold high capacity magazines?

Yes, they are identical guns.

This is why the assault weapons ban was lifted.  There is really no difference between assault weapons and hunting rifles.,  They are identical in every way to hunting rifles.  The difference is hunting rifles just do not have the military look.

I posted many images of this in the closed threads on this subject before.

And this is why gun owners fight so hard against these rules.  Hunters that understand know that the gun they hunt with is the same as the assault rifle.  So they fear you are coming after them.

[lawdog77]

Great questions.

uh...most people hunt on private property..where would this hunting licensing office be located?

[Tugg Speedman]

And do you have this semi automatic hunting rifle for the sole purpose of hunting with it when you obtain a license to do so with it?

if the answer is "yes", would you have any issue with having the gun registered and held at the hunting licensing office where you would check it in and out for your hunting expeditions?

Who is paying for this office to hold the guns?  This will cost way more than the gun itself.  Deny poor people the right to own a gun because they cannot afford the fees of this "gun library."

You really want the government to do this?  You see the slippery slope?

[naginiF]

"By far the largest source of improper payments, at $45.8 billion, was the Medicare program, which posted a 12.7 percent error rate. "
http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/17/2014-welfare-waste-dwarfs-forced-military-cuts-by-25/

Medicare is welfare?

He's siting citing a Tucker Carlson fronted website..........might as well copy and Onion post

[Tugg Speedman]

I'm not a hunter nor do I really comprehend that hobby but that's a different conversation all together. My question would be is that kind of weapon necessary for hunting? Does it hold high capacity magazines?

Every gun ever made that uses a magazine can take a high capacity magazine.

[Tugg Speedman]

I'm just shocked this has happened again.  Shocked.  How have all those thoughts and prayers not worked?!?

Bump stocks remain legal.  I'm just stunned. 

Again, if nothing changed after a bunch of 6 and 7 years-olds were killed nothing ever will. 

I'm just tired of it.  F*ck the NRA.  And f*ck you if you support that organization.

The is undirected emotion, rage and hate and innocent people that want a solution as much as you.  This kind of hate speech leads to people being hurt.

Is it ok for people to feel this way about pro-choicers?  Minorities?  Please give me the list of the groups we are allowed to have undirected rage against and want harm to come to and the groups we are not.

Do you want to rethink this position?

[Galway Eagle]

The is undirected emotion, rage and hate and innocent people that want a solution as much as you.  This kind of hate speech leads to people being hurt.

Is it ok for people to feel this way about pro-choicers?  Minorities?  Please give me the list of the groups we are allowed to have undirected rage against and want harm to come to and the groups we are not.

Do you want to rethink this position?

Your side would probably need to answer the question you posit about whether it's ok to feel this way about pro choicers or other groups listed. If the answer is yes from your side then I'd say yes to our side.

That being said if anyone is using a gun with that much power to hunt then you aren't a good hunter in the first place and should rethink your hobbies. (Just a general thought)

[Vander Blue Man Group]

The is undirected emotion, rage and hate and innocent people that want a solution as much as you.  This kind of hate speech leads to people being hurt.

Is it ok for people to feel this way about pro-choicers?  Minorities?  Please give me the list of the groups we are allowed to have undirected rage against and want harm to come to and the groups we are not.

Do you want to rethink this position?

I don't, Tugg. Honestly, you disgust me.

[naginiF]

Who is paying for this office to hold the guns?  This will cost way more than the gun itself.  Deny poor people the right to own a gun because they cannot afford the fees of this "gun library."

You really want the government to do this?  You see the slippery slope?

I understand that you see any movement to curb gun availability an affront and i'm not going to debate that with you but what I don't understand is why your see your right to own a gun is greater than the 16 (ish, i don't have a current count) kids who died todays right to live their life to a natural end. 

[Tugg Speedman]

Serious question ... how much anti-social behavior must one show before someone acts?

Authority types always say "report suspicious activity" and everyone rolls their eyes because no matter how outrageous the activity, nothing is done about it.

Florida school shooting suspect was ex-student who may have been flagged as threat
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article200126034.html
"We were told last year that he wasn't allowed on campus with a backpack on him," said math teacher Jim Gard, who said Cruz had been in his class last year. "There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus."

The Broward County School District Superintendent, however, told reporters on Wednesday afternoon that he did not know of any concerns raised about the student.

As for Gard, he said he believes the school administration earlier sent out an e-mail warning teachers that the student had made threats against others in the past and that he should not be allowed on the campus with a backpack.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Police-Respond-Marjory-Stoneman-Douglas-High-School-Parkland-474078423.html

In the video they said students were running out of the school saying "Nick Cruz" was shooting.  They knew him and said they were not surprised as they called him "crazy" and they predicted he would do this.

https://twitter.com/WJXTvic/status/963899957559390210
"Everyone predicted it," a student said about the #Parkland shooting.
(another video of another student that knew Nick Cruz and was not surprised.

https://wsvn.com/news/local/bso-17-dead-in-marjory-stoneman-douglas-high-school-shooting/

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So I ask again, how many more warning signs are necessary to act. And how did a kid with this background get this gun? (I'm asking if he gout it legally)?

[Mutaman]

He's siting citing a Tucker Carlson fronted website..........might as well copy and Onion post

Of course. And the website is a joke and Tucker is a pig. But I'm not a big "shoot  the messenger" guy so one has to read the article in order to see what morons these folks really are. Also, read the comments if you want a few laughs.   

[Tugg Speedman]

I don't, Tugg. Honestly, you disgust me.

Openly wishing harm on innocent people makes toy the most dangerous person on this board.  I fear you actually intend on acting on this emotion.