2018 Grad Transfer Thread, Updated 4/19/2018

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Here's 1...https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/981559969278382080

2. https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/981362765523595264

3. https://twitter.com/ebosshoops/status/980833195380871168

1. Aaron Calixte is a TERRIBLE defender from a TERRIBLE team. Not a match for what we are looking for.

2. Ryan Daly is a traditional transfer. He has to sit next season.

3. Nick Norton just announced his transfer two days ago and hasn't released a list.

So.....is it just that we haven't reached out to Calixte?

[brewcity77]

Here's 1...https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/981559969278382080

2. https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/981362765523595264

3. https://twitter.com/ebosshoops/status/980833195380871168

I'd pass on Calixte. Maine was really bad, he's small, and turns it over a lot. Further, his stats are heavily bolstered by conference play against a pretty poor America East. Same goes for Daly, who played SF/PF, not PG. He has better size but is not a distributor and doesn't seem like one that would really fill a need for us.

Norton seems to fit our needs better, but 5'10" scares me. Unless he's a great defender for his size, I'd be hesitant.

[PGsHeroes32]

Nichols doesn't excite me much, but I'd take him over an empty chair.

True.

More meant in respect to these other options

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Guru,  Wojo is in on 3 of the top 4 grad transfer guards currently available. The only one he is not in on is Ehab Amin.

Who else do you think he should be going after?

STUDS!  guru only wants STUDS!  STUDS should be knocking down the doors to play at MU.  STUDS, DAMMIT! STUDS!

[Its DJOver]

STUDS!  guru only wants STUDS!  STUDS should be knocking down the doors to play at MU.  STUDS, DAMMIT! STUDS!

Stud finders should be strictly limited to the nm thread.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

STUDS!  guru only wants STUDS!  STUDS should be knocking down the doors to play at MU.  STUDS, DAMMIT! STUDS!

Indeed. 

But that doesn't preclude him bitching that we aren't going after what are essentially two star players.  Because if we land them he can then bitch that we are landing two star players.  Or bitching that we aren't going after transfers that can't play next year while bitching that we need to fill that gap next year.

[Dawson Rental]

A nice summary from Marquette Wire:

https://marquettewire.org/3989924/sports/marquette-looks-to-solve-point-guard-problems-via-transfers/

Two grad transfer options, and two regular transfer options to take over when the grad transfer is gone.

[TedBaxter]

For all anyone knows, Wojo is finalizing the deal with a grad transfer.  This staff keeps things closer to the vest than any staff I've ever seen.

As far as Nichols from Albany, he went to the same high school at former Marquette great Lloyd Walton.

http://www.ualbanysports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210232195

[GGGG]

Nichols might end up being fine.  I'm pretty convinced that Markus and Elliott will be the starting back court anyway, with the grad transfer playing more of a sixth man type of role in the back court. 

[muguru]

Indeed. 

But that doesn't preclude him bitching that we aren't going after what are essentially two star players.  Because if we land them he can then bitch that we are landing two star players.  Or bitching that we aren't going after transfers that can't play next year while bitching that we need to fill that gap next year.

This is wrong on so many levels..MU needs a grad transfer PG..that's a fact. As long as they get one that can distribute, not turn it over and plays decent defense, and it would be nice if he can score too..I dont care who that guy is..as long as they get one..that's the key.

The other scholly I would use on a traditional transfer(preferably one with 3 years of elig remaining), postion isn't important to me..just get the best guy you can and call it a day.

[DCHoopster]

This is wrong on so many levels..MU needs a grad transfer PG..that's a fact. As long as they get one that can distribute, not turn it over and plays decent defense, and it would be nice if he can score too..I dont care who that guy is..as long as they get one..that's the key.

The other scholly I would use on a traditional transfer(preferably one with 3 years of elig remaining), postion isn't important to me..just get the best guy you can and call it a day.

If recruiting for 2019 is looking good, I would only take the grad transfer as there is only 1 scholarship available the following year and it is hard enough to keep 12 players happy much less 13.  if it is a transfer, you have to think that the recruiting the following year does not look good.

[GGGG]

If recruiting for 2019 is looking good, I would only take the grad transfer as there is only 1 scholarship available the following year and it is hard enough to keep 12 players happy much less 13.  if it is a transfer, you have to think that the recruiting the following year does not look good.

If you take a grad transfer and a regular transfer, there will still be two scholarships for the 2019-20 year.  One for the departing Heldt and one for the departing grad transfer.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

If you take a grad transfer and a regular transfer, there will still be two scholarships for the 2019-20 year.  One for the departing Heldt and one for the departing grad transfer.

And I'd still sign 3 in that case, cuz transfers are inevitable.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Nichols might end up being fine.  I'm pretty convinced that Markus and Elliott will be the starting back court anyway, with the grad transfer playing more of a sixth man type of role in the back court.

If we get a PG as a grad transfer, especially one with some size, I have a hard time seeing Elliott starting over him. 

[Its DJOver]

If we get a PG as a grad transfer, especially one with some size, I have a hard time seeing Elliott starting over him.

Elliot's listed at 6-3, if he can put on some good weight and improve his handles (which he should at least have time to do since he supposedly has the shortest rehab) there's no reason he can't be a starting PG in the Beast.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Elliot's listed at 6-3, if he can put on some good weight and improve his handles (which he should at least have time to do since he supposedly has the shortest rehab) there's no reason he can't be a starting PG in the Beast.

I don't disagree with that.  However, if we get an established grad PG with some size I don't think Elliott starts over him this upcoming season.

[MU82]

Indeed. 

But that doesn't preclude him bitching that we aren't going after what are essentially two star players.  Because if we land them he can then bitch that we are landing two star players.  Or bitching that we aren't going after transfers that can't play next year while bitching that we need to fill that gap next year.

Yep, and if we get one who is bad on D, he (and Ners and a few others) can bitch about that, too.

[MuMark]

Elliot's listed at 6-3, if he can put on some good weight and improve his handles (which he should at least have time to do since he supposedly has the shortest rehab) there's no reason he can't be a starting PG in the Beast.

Maybe maybe not......he has never played point guard......I'm not placing any big bets on him being a Big East caliber pg ....think Wojo is probably ok with him doing it in small spurts behind 2 other guys but he has shown no signs that he is ready to play important minutes there yet.

[GGGG]

I don't disagree with that.  However, if we get an established grad PG with some size I don't think Elliott starts over him this upcoming season.

I have a feeling we will get an established one, but may not necessarily be a BE quality starter.  Markus at point, Elliott as the other guard, grad transfer plays point and Markus moves off the ball.

[Its DJOver]

Maybe maybe not......he has never played point guard......I'm not placing any big bets on him being a Big East caliber pg ....think Wojo is probably ok with him doing it in small spurts behind 2 other guys but he has shown no signs that he is ready to play important minutes there yet.

You may be right, I just know that there has been an enormous amount of complaining about small guards and about the sizes of potential grad transfers, and we have a 6-3 guard who had a decent freshman campaign, has a full summer of lifting weights ahead of him.  He should at least be seen as a viable option going forward, especially since Markus' point display was thoroughly underwhelming.

[Pakuni]

You may be right, I just know that there has been an enormous amount of complaining about small guards and about the sizes of potential grad transfers, and we have a 6-3 guard who had a decent freshman campaign, has a full summer of lifting weights ahead of him.  He should at least be seen as a viable option going forward, especially since Markus' point display was thoroughly underwhelming.

I'd say the fact Wojo seems to be pursuing almost every decent point guard transfer out there, grad and traditional, is pretty indicative of how he feels about Greg's ability to handle the starting point guard position anytime soon.

[Its DJOver]

I'd say the fact Wojo seems to be pursuing almost every decent point guard transfer out there, grad and traditional, is pretty indicative of how he feels about Greg's ability to handle the starting point guard position anytime soon.

Wojo has played his grad transfer cards pretty close to the vest. All we know is that contact has been made, we don't know how hard he's pushing, and just because we bring in a 1 year player doesn't mean that Greg won't run the offense his junior and senior year.

[BM1090]

Nichols might end up being fine.  I'm pretty convinced that Markus and Elliott will be the starting back court anyway, with the grad transfer playing more of a sixth man type of role in the back court.

If we got Chartouny I assume he'd start at point with Markus next to him. He's got good size for a PG. Anyone else I'd imagine would come off the bench.

[Jockey]

Elliot's listed at 6-3, if he can put on some good weight and improve his handles (which he should at least have time to do since he supposedly has the shortest rehab) there's no reason he can't be a starting PG in the Beast.

There was no reason Vander and Duane couldn't be starting PGs in the BE.

Sorry but it ain't that easy to switch from a 2 to a 1.

[Pakuni]

Wojo has played his grad transfer cards pretty close to the vest. All we know is that contact has been made, we don't know how hard he's pushing, and just because we bring in a 1 year player doesn't mean that Greg won't run the offense his junior and senior year.

Following kids on Twitter and making contact with them isn't exactly keeping things close to the vest. And there's no reason to believe Wojo is wasting his and his staff's time on kids they don't really want.
You're right that Greg could one day start at the point. But the way the staff is going after every established point guard on the market right now sure seems to imply that they aren't confident that's next season.