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2018 Grad Transfer Thread, Updated 4/19/2018

Started by brewcity77, January 15, 2018, 11:25:18 AM

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MU82

Quote from: Tha Hound on April 02, 2018, 10:13:20 AM
Anyways, to get this thread back on track, here is a video showing Chartouney's performance in the 2016/17 season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaIsMS3adJw

Thanks for the video. Very nice. Looks like a good finisher, too.

Obviously, these are all highlights, but ... we'll take him. Even if he's not the "stud" that a few Scoopers want Wojo to get from the grad transfer class. I agree with them, and am still hoping for Chris Paul.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Honestly, there are very few true "studs" that ever become available on the grad transfer market. Damion Lee was the exception, not the rule. Guys like Reinhardt and Lockett are a lot more common. They aren't going to carry good teams, but they can be starters and very nice pieces to help push your team over the edge.

If Chartouney came here, I would expect him to be our 4th-7th best player depending on how some of the youngings come along. I would think 7.5 points and 4.5 assists a game would be a reasonable expectation for him. But I also think he brings some skillsets that are team is sorely lacking and that can be invaluable.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Pakuni

Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 02, 2018, 11:04:51 AM
Honestly, there are very few true "studs" that ever become available on the grad transfer market. Damion Lee was the exception, not the rule. Guys like Reinhardt and Lockett are a lot more common. They aren't going to carry good teams, but they can be starters and very nice pieces to help push your team over the edge.

If Chartouney came here, I would expect him to be our 4th-7th best player depending on how some of the youngings come along. I would think 7.5 points and 4.5 assists a game would be a reasonable expectation for him. But I also think he brings some skillsets that are team is sorely lacking and that can be invaluable.

This is exactly correct.
MU will have plenty of scoring options next year. Just need a guy who can handle the rock, provide a little rebounding and play some reasonable on-ball defense.

HutchwasClutch

MU should be a relatively easy sell to a grad transfer PG for next season.   Come in and you have the keys to a very talented team that can potentially make a deep NCAA run.   Unless there just isn't anyone very good available, will be disappointed if Wojo and staff can't land one. This kid from Fordham seems like a good fit for the team.   Weakness is shooting, but that's ok with their roster makeup.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

And I wouldn't even call his shooting a weakness. He had very solid shooting numbers his SO year when he had better teammates. Put him on a team where he's the 4th or 5th scoring option and his %s should soar
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 02, 2018, 12:28:11 PM
And I wouldn't even call his shooting a weakness. He had very solid shooting numbers his SO year when he had better teammates. Put him on a team where he's the 4th or 5th scoring option and his %s should soar

This guy working with Nelson all summer could be a sight to behold, on top of being the 4th/5th option

GooooMarquette

If he is decent with the ball againt pressure, can find open shooters and play reasonably good defense, he would be a solid addition to this team.

Like others have said, he wouldn't be a star...but he wouldn't need to be with the offensive talent we have.

PGsHeroes32

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 02, 2018, 11:04:51 AM
Honestly, there are very few true "studs" that ever become available on the grad transfer market. Damion Lee was the exception, not the rule. Guys like Reinhardt and Lockett are a lot more common. They aren't going to carry good teams, but they can be starters and very nice pieces to help push your team over the edge.

If Chartouney came here, I would expect him to be our 4th-7th best player depending on how some of the youngings come along. I would think 7.5 points and 4.5 assists a game would be a reasonable expectation for him. But I also think he brings some skillsets that are team is sorely lacking and that can be invaluable.

Reasonable post, TAMU, as usual.

I'd love to see a BD post telling us we've made contact with this cat and are one of his faves. It looks like he has a long list of suitors.

It's only a matter of time before some posters are saying Wojo will be a failure if he "loses" Chartouny.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington



TAMU, Knower of Ball

#336
Quote from: MU82 on April 02, 2018, 01:37:49 PM
Reasonable post, TAMU, as usual.

I'd love to see a BD post telling us we've made contact with this cat and are one of his faves. It looks like he has a long list of suitors.

It's only a matter of time before some posters are saying Wojo will be a failure if he "loses" Chartouny.

Chartouney has been playing things close to the chest. No lists, no one has reported on who is pursuing him. Just got to follow the twitta breadcrumbs
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Tha Hound on April 02, 2018, 01:47:31 PM
We have or have we?

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 02, 2018, 01:48:17 PM
We have.

https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Coveted-graduate-basketball-transfer-Joe-Cremo-in-unfamiliar-territory-116937904

QuoteThe schools that have already reached out to Cremo, 21, include Arizona, Cincinnati, Creighton, Louisville, Marquette, Ohio State, Seton Hall, St. Bonaventure, St. Joseph's, SMU, Texas, Texas Tech, UConn, West Virginia and Wichita State.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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MU82

Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 02, 2018, 01:49:26 PM
Just got to follow the twitta breadcrumbs

That's what I have you and other twitta-usin' Scoopers for!
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Pakuni

Story on Cremo.
Points of interest:
- Wants to go somewhere he can have a "big role," compete in the tournament and set himself up to play professionally
- 21 schools have contacted him. Has no visits scheduled, but is leaning toward a few (no mention of which)

https://247sports.com/Article/Coveted-graduate-basketball-transfer-Joe-Cremo-in-unfamiliar-territory-116937904

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Pakuni on April 02, 2018, 05:08:33 PM
Story on Cremo.
Points of interest:
- Wants to go somewhere he can have a "big role," compete in the tournament and set himself up to play professionally
- 21 schools have contacted him. Has no visits scheduled, but is leaning toward a few (no mention of which)

https://247sports.com/Article/Coveted-graduate-basketball-transfer-Joe-Cremo-in-unfamiliar-territory-116937904

Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 02, 2018, 01:50:10 PM
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Coveted-graduate-basketball-transfer-Joe-Cremo-in-unfamiliar-territory-116937904


;D

Also I'm pretty sure the 21 refers to Cremo's age...not the number of schools that have reached out to him
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Pakuni

Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 02, 2018, 05:10:32 PM
;D

Also I'm pretty sure the 21 refers to Cremo's age...not the number of schools that have reached out to him

Oops.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Nick Norton from UAB grad transferring. Don't know much about him besides the fact that he's a 5'10" point guard. Probably not what we're looking for.

Dr. Blackheart

#343
Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 02, 2018, 05:10:32 PM
;D

Also I'm pretty sure the 21 refers to Cremo's age...not the number of schools that have reached out to him

Perfect fit to MKE then.  Cremo will own the Cream City.

muguru

Quote from: TAMU Chardonnay on April 02, 2018, 11:04:51 AM
Honestly, there are very few true "studs" that ever become available on the grad transfer market. Damion Lee was the exception, not the rule. Guys like Reinhardt and Lockett are a lot more common. They aren't going to carry good teams, but they can be starters and very nice pieces to help push your team over the edge.

If Chartouney came here, I would expect him to be our 4th-7th best player depending on how some of the youngings come along. I would think 7.5 points and 4.5 assists a game would be a reasonable expectation for him. But I also think he brings some skillsets that are team is sorely lacking and that can be invaluable.

Reinhardt was a stud compared to most of what is available, as was Matt Carlino. Igor Koulachev would also have fit that definition(again in comparison to what is typically available in the grad transfer market). Chartouney will do, but if someone better comes available that would be my preference.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on April 02, 2018, 01:37:49 PM


It's only a matter of time before some posters are saying Wojo will be a failure if he "loses" Chartouny.

This is what I mean, Mike. If somebody actually calls Wojo a failure for losing Chartnouy (extremely unlikely IMHO) address it then. Pre-emptive whining doesn't suit you.

mileskishnish72

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 02, 2018, 12:23:17 PM
This kid from Fordham seems like a good fit for the team. 

Ah, when has there ever been a decent transfer from Fordham?

Gotta run, Villanova is playing in the title game.

SaveOD238

So I hear this Brunson kid from Villanova is graduating in three years.  May e he wants to grad transfer closer to home?


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