The Harry Froling Era Now Begins

[brewcity77]

Winning 1 or 2 games more than not with him could be the difference between dancing and watching from the stands.  Ok, going into Big East play we will probably have 9 victories.  Assuming 20 victories to get to the dance that leaves us needing to win 11 out of 19 games.  No small task in the Big East.

We don't need 20 wins. We have a tougher schedule than we did last year, and last year 19 was enough.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Would be nice to have a redo of that Georgia clunker. Hopefully it wont matter much in the end.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Winning 1 or 2 games more than not with him could be the difference between dancing and watching from the stands.  Ok, going into Big East play we will probably have 9 victories.  Assuming 20 victories to get to the dance that leaves us needing to win 11 out of 19 games.  No small task in the Big East.

https://painttouches.com/2017/12/09/playing-with-rpi-wizard-after-the-storming-of-the-kohl-hole/

7 Big East wins and our tournament chances are still alive...barely...but alive. 11 Big East Wins would get us a very nice seed.

[GoldenDieners32]

https://painttouches.com/2017/12/09/playing-with-rpi-wizard-after-the-storming-of-the-kohl-hole/

7 Big East wins and our tournament chances are still alive...barely...but alive. 11 Big East Wins would get us a very nice seed.

Huge game for us the first game of the BE season against Xavier at the BC

[Galway Eagle]

We don't need 20 wins. We have a tougher schedule than we did last year, and last year 19 was enough.

I really believe that the 15-16 almost "scared" wojo to the point where we're always going to be playing a pretty damn tough schedule

[Silkk the Shaka]

I really believe that the 15-16 almost "scared" wojo to the point where we're always going to be playing a pretty damn tough schedule

Agree to some extent, but if we had beaten DePaul & Belmont at home that year we arguably could have been dancing. NIT at minimum.

[Galway Eagle]

Agree to some extent, but if we had beaten DePaul & Belmont at home that year we arguably could have been dancing. NIT at minimum.

I agree 100% and it drives me crazy but what I mean is that he sees a 20wom team on his record that has nothing to show for it and I think it motivates him to schedule for errors like that now

[NCMUFan]

We don't need 20 wins. We have a tougher schedule than we did last year, and last year 19 was enough.

Curious how many team got in the tournament with 19 wins and how many with 20?
I wouldn't want to totally rely on the selection committees grace to get in with 19 wins.

[brewcity77]

I really believe that the 15-16 almost "scared" wojo to the point where we're always going to be playing a pretty damn tough schedule

I don't know, I still think that had to be deliberate. This is from the 2015 schedule thread:

This is absolutely ridiculous. Suffice to say, seeing 7 sub-300 RPI teams on the schedule is something I'm not happy with. Here's why:

NCAA Hopes

This will tank our RPI and SOS. Forget about scheduling high major teams like Ohio State or Vanderbilt, even scheduling decent mid and low major teams would make a difference...My estimation is that Marquette probably needs to win 22-23 games just to be on the NCAA bubble, and that's assuming they don't lose to one of these teams.

The entire thread is worth a look, especially some of mu03eng's number crunching, but if we on Scoop knew in pre-season Marquette needed 22-23 wins to get to the bubble, then Wojo and the Athletic Department knew it too. They wanted a winning record and were willing to sacrifice postseason play to get it.

[Galway Eagle]

I don't know, I still think that had to be deliberate. This is from the 2015 schedule thread:

The entire thread is worth a look, especially some of mu03eng's number crunching, but if we on Scoop knew in pre-season Marquette needed 22-23 wins to get to the bubble, then Wojo and the Athletic Department knew it too. They wanted a winning record and were willing to sacrifice postseason play to get it.

But wasn't his whole narrative that season "if we knew who we were going to have this season we would've scheduled differently"

[Dr. Blackheart]

Harry Froling = Luc Longley ?

[brewcity77]

But wasn't his whole narrative that season "if we knew who we were going to have this season we would've scheduled differently"

I really think they knew, they always knew. And if they didn't, then they should fire the people doing scheduling and hire me and eng.

And frankly, that would be ludicrous.

[Dawson Rental]

Curious how many team got in the tournament with 19 wins and how many with 20?
Would want to totally rely on the selection committees grace to get in with 19 wins.

And then there are the teams with more than twenty wins that don't sniff the tournament.

[MU82]

Harry Froling = Luc Longley ?

Luc was only a bit player his first year at New Mexico, but he didn't have a "head start" like Froling does. Luc went on to be a force, especially his last two seasons, and helped the team win 84 games during his 4 years. He eventually started at center for the second Bulls threepeat team.

In other words, I hope so.

[brewcity77]

Curious how many team got in the tournament with 19 wins and how many with 20?
Would want to totally rely on the selection committees grace to get in with 19 wins.

9-seed Michigan State 19-14
9-seed Vanderbilt 19-15
10-seed Oklahoma State 20-12
10-seed Marquette 19-12
11-seed Providence 20-12
11-seed Kansas State 20-13
11-seed Wake Forest 19-13

[Dr. Blackheart]

Luc was only a bit player his first year at New Mexico, but he didn't have a "head start" like Froling does. Luc went on to be a force, especially his last two seasons, and helped the team win 84 games during his 4 years. He eventually started at center for the second Bulls threepeat team.

In other words, I hope so.

And, so it is written and so it shall be.

A nice Christmas Miracle!

[MU82]

9-seed Michigan State 19-14
9-seed Vanderbilt 19-15
10-seed Oklahoma State 20-12
10-seed Marquette 19-12
11-seed Providence 20-12
11-seed Kansas State 20-13
11-seed Wake Forest 19-13

So what you're saying is that a Marquette team with 19 wins was seeded higher than a Providence team with 20 wins ... even though Providence beat us twice?

That's impossible because I thought we HAD to win 20 games?

So confused!!

[Bocephys]

So what you're saying is that a Marquette team with 19 wins was seeded higher than a Providence team with 20 wins ... even though Providence beat us twice?

That's impossible because I thought we HAD to win 20 games?

So confused!!

It was grace by the selection committee.  #winsnomatta

[mu03eng]

So what you're saying is that a Marquette team with 19 wins was seeded higher than a Providence team with 20 wins ... even though Providence beat us twice?

That's impossible because I thought we HAD to win 20 games?

So confused!!

Yeah and we were gifted essentially a home team that would make a run to the Final Four as our opening opinion. You will never convince me otherwise that the committee slotted us that way because we should have been a lower seed but couldn't for various reasons.

[mu03eng]

I really think they knew, they always knew. And if they didn't, then they should fire the people doing scheduling and hire me and eng.

And frankly, that would be ludicrous.

A live look-in to a Brew/Eng run office:

[Galway Eagle]

Yeah and we were gifted essentially a home team that would make a run to the Final Four as our opening opinion. You will never convince me otherwise that the committee slotted us that way because we should have been a lower seed but couldn't for various reasons.

I don't think the committee wanted S Carolina to make the final four that would make zero sense as they aren't a Cinderella story to bring eyes and aren't a basketball school that'd care.

[brewcity77]

A live look-in to a Brew/Eng run office:

[mu03eng]

I don't think the committee wanted S Carolina to make the final four that would make zero sense as they aren't a Cinderella story to bring eyes and aren't a basketball school that'd care.

It wasn't about South Carolina itself, but the match up. We were overseeded, to compensate they gave us a less than ideal match-up. Basically it was a 7-10 that looked/acted more like a 6-11 or 5-12.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

A live look-in to a Brew/Eng run office:

Well at least Brew is a firefighter

[tower912]

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/MU-Asst-Coach-Chris-Carrawell-on-Harry-Froling-112277559

Coach Carrawell on Froling.   Yes, I know it is Dodds and it is fluff.    Still better than any other info we are getting.    Counting down.