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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on December 09, 2017, 01:00:16 PM
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What do we expect?
Start?
Minutes?
Stats?
Another body and five more fouls?
Thoughts?
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What do we expect?
Start?
Minutes?
Stats?
Another body and five more fouls?
Thoughts?
Sorry. Too busy celebrating the Bucky win.
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Brings another dimension to the offense that we will love.
Will not help the interior defense that we hope.
Thinking we see him come off the bench but with solid minutes. 15-20 range.
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Wojo was just interviewed on FS1 ... he said that Froling has lost 40 pounds and brings a skill set that Matt and Theo do not have. I took that to mean an ability to score down low.
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Wojo is always so stoned faced. When asked about Froling in the post game he could not choke back the smile. I am taking that as a good sign...
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Brings another dimension to the offense that we will love.
Will not help the interior defense that we hope.
Thinking we see him come off the bench but with solid minutes. 15-20 range.
I agree with this but his sheer size will help with interior D. Just having a 6'11 big that may even get to play alongside Matt or Theo sometimes will help. I see him as a stretch four. Thinking he could get 10ppg eventually and have a few big games.
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Wojo was just interviewed on FS1 ... he said that Froling has lost 40 pounds and brings a skill set that Matt and Theo do not have. I took that to mean an ability to score down low.
I took it more as a true big that can stretch the floor. But regardless I think he's going to be effective scoring both inside and out.
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Wojo was just interviewed on FS1 ... he said that Froling has lost 40 pounds and brings a skill set that Matt and Theo do not have. I took that to mean an ability to score down low.
And step out. Should create more lanes for guys like Anim to slash.
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And step out. Should create more lanes for guys like Anim to slash.
I think it'll open up the 3 point line more for Howard Rowsey and Hauser. 4 three point shots at a time is going to be hard to guard. No more doubling Rowsey off the screen high.
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Wojo is always so stoned faced. When asked about Froling in the post game he could not choke back the smile. I am taking that as a good sign...
Yup, noticed the smirk too. Me thinks we get a LOT more dangerous.
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Harry was a pretty big name out of Australia before going to SMU. He's got skills and I can't wait to see what new-and-improved Froling does with our squad.
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He'll just make us better, more options and man power. Can't wait.
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Sorry. Too busy celebrating the Bucky win.
You said it!!!
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Noticed Wojo's response as well. I think it was Bilas that said Froling would make a big difference.
Oh, please, let it happen.
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Will not help the interior defense that we hope.
Maybe not, but remember he was overweight and adjusting to American basketball at SMU. New system, new country, going from star to backup, I'm not sure that will be indicative of what he is here. After a year battling Fischer, Heldt, Morrow, John, and Smith, we may see a different type of player.
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Looking forward to seeing what The Big Fro can bring!
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Maybe not, but remember he was overweight and adjusting to American basketball at SMU. New system, new country, going from star to backup, I'm not sure that will be indicative of what he is here. After a year battling Fischer, Heldt, Morrow, John, and Smith, we may see a different type of player.
Porky agrees with this. There's no way all that practice hasn't helped his game. Not expecting Harry to be a transformative game changer that propels us to the Sweet 16 in March, but we'll definitely be a better team a week from today than we currently are.
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Maybe not, but remember he was overweight and adjusting to American basketball at SMU. New system, new country, going from star to backup, I'm not sure that will be indicative of what he is here. After a year battling Fischer, Heldt, Morrow, John, and Smith, we may see a different type of player.
My guess is he will do well the first two games he plays.
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Maybe not, but remember he was overweight and adjusting to American basketball at SMU. New system, new country, going from star to backup, I'm not sure that will be indicative of what he is here. After a year battling Fischer, Heldt, Morrow, John, and Smith, we may see a different type of player.
Don't forget, he was also injured when at SMU (they were playing him anyway). Not saying he will be a season changer.
Some here are building expectations a bit high. He will be a contributor, and probably help us win 1 or 2 games we may not have without him. That is about the best we can expect.
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Wojo has said that 1 of the best skills Harry has is he is an excellent passer.
I expect more offense to be run through him then with Matt and Theo....if not to score then tonfind our shooters and cutters.
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If Harry provides nothing else, he is another big body and five more fouls. That in and of itself will be valuable to this team.
However, I believe he will provide a different dimension to this team. Think Henry with a better supporting cast.
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Wojo is always so stoned faced. When asked about Froling in the post game he could not choke back the smile. I am taking that as a good sign...
I'm wondering who had the gun to his head in the post game FS1 interview
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I'm wondering who had the gun to his head in the post game FS1 interview
It did look like he was being held hostage....
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24852161_1948133598535745_669357820939305506_n.jpg?oh=954f8795917f2e14aa4c8b179160daa4&oe=5AC3F4B7)
Wojo! You just had a big win, for chrissake!
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Fro! Yo!
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Brings another dimension to the offense that we will love.
Will not help the interior defense that we hope.
Thinking we see him come off the bench but with solid minutes. 15-20 range.
Agree. I think he will come off the bench but his minutes could expand as the BE season rolls on. Very excited to see how he will fit in with the team.
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Agree. I think he will come off the bench but his minutes could expand as the BE season rolls on. Very excited to see how he will fit in with the team.
It will be interesting to see how he uses him, Matt and Theo just set picks and roll to the basket. Watching the O carefully yesterday, the bigs set picks free throw
line extended, then roll. Not sure where Froling gets shots from except back to the basket. It will be interesting to see how Wojo uses him. If he uses him like the
other 2, he will not be impressive. Opens up the middle like Kentucky then he has a chance to get some looks.
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I don't think it's too big of a stretch to say that he could potentially take us from the #13 offense to top 5 range (territory currently occupied by Villanova, Duke, Wichita St., Xavier, and St. Mary's), which makes 10 conference wins look more achievable (especially if we can get our defense from 150's closer to 100). I think his biggest impact might come from us getting more consistent good looks, which would prevent strings of empty possessions/droughts. With a defense this bad, offensive droughts turn into unanswered scoring runs by the opposition rather quickly.
If you can't stop 'em, just never stop scoring.
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It will be interesting to see how he uses him, Matt and Theo just set picks and roll to the basket. Watching the O carefully yesterday, the bigs set picks free throw
line extended, then roll. Not sure where Froling gets shots from except back to the basket. It will be interesting to see how Wojo uses him. If he uses him like the
other 2, he will not be impressive. Opens up the middle like Kentucky then he has a chance to get some looks.
Part of that is a result of Matt and Theo not having the ability to make shots. If Harry is cable of hitting some shots he will have an expanded roll.
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If he's a net contributor we should be able to sneak into the tourney.
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Part of that is a result of Matt and Theo not having the ability to make shots. If Harry is cable of hitting some shots he will have an expanded roll.
I had an expanded roll after I ate too much on Thanksgiving.
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Having a 6'11 guy who can shoot from 3 stretches the defense. It pulls a big away from the basket, much like Luke would get pulled away from the basket. Also, I remember Diener and Novak running pick-and-pops all of the time. I can see Rowsey going off of a Froling screen, being followed by a big, and throwing it back to Froling who shoots over a guard. I also think that there will be two-big sets, with Harry taking Joey's spot as the spot up stretch 4. Defensively, if he just moves his feet and keeps his hands up, especially in a two-big set, it will clog passing lanes. When opponents run the high pick and roll on Matt, now it may be Froling as the weak side wing dropping down to contest at the rim. This is contingent on HF's ability to adequately defend in space.
Or, he could stink and the team does not improve. IMO, how much HF positively impacts the team depends on whether he can defend opposing 4's in space. In Big East play, it would be nice to be able to have two bigs on the floor, play Sam at the 3. When Sam rests, play Sacar or Jamal at the 3. Can't wait to find out.
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In my opinion Sam is a much, much bigger mismatch for other teams to deal with at the 4 than the other team’s 4 is a mismatch for Sam. We’ve been asking Sam to guard the opponent’s best forward every game and he’s done an outstanding job of it and, with the exception of WSU, has stayed out of foul trouble. He handled an All American in Maten about as well as anyone will this year. Sam, Froling, and Heldt on the court together makes for a pretty big lack of lateral quickness on the court.
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Just imagine how nice those screen plays for Rowsey and Howard are gonna be when one of the screeners can also shoot :-*
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I love watching that video. Notice how this was a high pick and roll that left #15 looking like Luke Fischer trying to defend an attacking guard in space. Which is why everybody runs it. MU just has to get better at defending it.
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We're going to the tourney, Froling is going to be a difference maker
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At the MKE Coaches Luncheon Wojo asked for patience but only until later in the year. He kept saying we'd make mistakes but we would be a better team late, a fun team, a team we would all like. Everyone at my table took that as we're going to the NCAAs. He easily could have said we graduated a lot of seniors, have great underclassmen, please be patient we're building. He made it seem like we're building in season.
I think Harry is a big part of that optimism along with Greg & Jamal of course.
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In my opinion Sam is a much, much bigger mismatch for other teams to deal with at the 4 than the other team’s 4 is a mismatch for Sam. We’ve been asking Sam to guard the opponent’s best forward every game and he’s done an outstanding job of it and, with the exception of WSU, has stayed out of foul trouble. He handled an All American in Maten about as well as anyone will this year. Sam, Froling, and Heldt on the court together makes for a pretty big lack of lateral quickness on the court.
Well stated, wades.
People talk about the wonders of getting Harry to pick-and-pop. Sam has done this with great success all season - even with all the hype on Markus and Rowsey, Sam is our highest-percentage 3-point shooter this season. I'd be darned surprised if Harry shoots it as well.
Sam also is an above-average to good defender of the 6-6 to 6-9 players he's been asked to defend (give or take a couple inches). A couple of our best runs have come when he's been our tallest player on the court.
I'm pretty sure I don't want to see too much of a Heldt-Froling-Sam frontcourt, just as I didn't particularly care for the Gardner-Otule-Jamil frontcourt.
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How about the Theo, Froling, Sam front court? If they just move their feet and keep their hands up, it will be a lot.
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How about the Theo, Froling, Sam front court? If they just move their feet and keep their hands up, it will be a lot.
When Wojo realizes his guards can not really guard anybody and decides to play zone, why not, MU won the championship with Whitehead, Toone and Bo since
Toone had no idea how to play D. Big back line, agreed!
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The problem with MU and zone is the tiny guards.
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In my opinion Sam is a much, much bigger mismatch for other teams to deal with at the 4 than the other team’s 4 is a mismatch for Sam. We’ve been asking Sam to guard the opponent’s best forward every game and he’s done an outstanding job of it and, with the exception of WSU, has stayed out of foul trouble. He handled an All American in Maten about as well as anyone will this year. Sam, Froling, and Heldt on the court together makes for a pretty big lack of lateral quickness on the court.
One wonders if Haanif transferring was more about Sam taking his time at the three with Harry moving in...
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One wonders if Haanif transferring was more about Sam taking his time at the three with Harry moving in...
Haanif wants to play in the NBA, good luck. For Tower, play zone when you have Elliott in.
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Haanif wants to play in the NBA, good luck. For Tower, play zone when you have Elliott in.
Yep
Elliot/Rowsey
Elliot/Markus
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Here's how KenPom.com breaks down the front court minutes in the past 5 games:
C
Matt Heldt (62%)
Theo John (24%)
Sam Hauser (12%)
PF
Sam Hauser (69%)
Jamal Cain (23%)
Sacar Anim (8%)
Harry was rated as a 4-star recruit even before getting serious about his conditioning and working out with the team for the past year. He's been compared to current NBA big men. Based on that alone, I think he'll see more time on the court than any of the freshmen — I'd guess 20+ mpg.
So where do those minutes come from?
Depending on how Harry defends and rebounds, I think he'll play at least 10+ mpg at the 5. This assumes Matt gets 20 mpg (instead of 25+) and Sam doesn't play the 5 anymore at all. I hope Theo continues to earn valuable court time and experience (about 10 mpg).
The other 10 mpg will come from Jamal, Sacar and possibly Sam (at least a bit) at the 4. Again, it depends on how he defends and rebounds. Ultimately, I don't see Jamal (21.6 mpg over the past 5 games) or Greg (22.0 mpg over the past 5 games) getting more minutes than Harry.
As for production, I expect he'll slot in as the 4th best scorer (maybe 8-10 ppg) and 3rd best rebounder behind Matt and Sam (say 4.5 rpg).
Lots of assumptions here. But I expect he'll make a noticeable impact the rest of the way.
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If Harry does turn out to be a monster stud, you gotta give props to Wojo for holding it close to his vest.
Not once has he ever said anything even remotely resembling, "Well, just wait until Harry is eligible" when talking about a disappointing team performance.He hasn't even hinted it. I don't even recall him discussing Harry unless he was asked a direct question about him. He expected the team to perform well without him.
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If Harry does turn out to be a monster stud, you gotta give props to Wojo for holding it close to his vest.
Not once has he ever said anything even remotely resembling, "Well, just wait until Harry is eligible" when talking about a disappointing team performance.He hasn't even hinted it. I don't even recall him discussing Harry unless he was asked a direct question about him. He expected the team to perform well without him.
I hear he is taller than Rowsey.
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Don't forget, he was also injured when at SMU (they were playing him anyway). Not saying he will be a season changer.
Some here are building expectations a bit high. He will be a contributor, and probably help us win 1 or 2 games we may not have without him. That is about the best we can expect.
Winning 1 or 2 games more than not with him could be the difference between dancing and watching from the stands. Ok, going into Big East play we will probably have 9 victories. Assuming 20 victories to get to the dance that leaves us needing to win 11 out of 19 games. No small task in the Big East.
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I hear he is taller than Rowsey.
Only while Rowsey is sitting down.
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Don't forget, he was also injured when at SMU (they were playing him anyway). Not saying he will be a season changer.
Some here are building expectations a bit high. He will be a contributor, and probably help us win 1 or 2 games we may not have without him. That is about the best we can expect.
Winning 1 or 2 games more than not with him could be the difference between dancing and watching from the stands. Ok, going into Big East play we will probably have 9 victories. Assuming 20 victories to get to the dance that leaves us needing to win 11 out of 19 games. No small task in the Big East.
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9 wins in the BE and not losing to DePaul or Georgetown in the first round of the BET gets us dancing.
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Winning 1 or 2 games more than not with him could be the difference between dancing and watching from the stands. Ok, going into Big East play we will probably have 9 victories. Assuming 20 victories to get to the dance that leaves us needing to win 11 out of 19 games. No small task in the Big East.
We don't need 20 wins. We have a tougher schedule than we did last year, and last year 19 was enough.
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Would be nice to have a redo of that Georgia clunker. Hopefully it wont matter much in the end.
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Winning 1 or 2 games more than not with him could be the difference between dancing and watching from the stands. Ok, going into Big East play we will probably have 9 victories. Assuming 20 victories to get to the dance that leaves us needing to win 11 out of 19 games. No small task in the Big East.
https://painttouches.com/2017/12/09/playing-with-rpi-wizard-after-the-storming-of-the-kohl-hole/
7 Big East wins and our tournament chances are still alive...barely...but alive. 11 Big East Wins would get us a very nice seed.
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https://painttouches.com/2017/12/09/playing-with-rpi-wizard-after-the-storming-of-the-kohl-hole/
7 Big East wins and our tournament chances are still alive...barely...but alive. 11 Big East Wins would get us a very nice seed.
Huge game for us the first game of the BE season against Xavier at the BC
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We don't need 20 wins. We have a tougher schedule than we did last year, and last year 19 was enough.
I really believe that the 15-16 almost “scared” wojo to the point where we’re always going to be playing a pretty damn tough schedule
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I really believe that the 15-16 almost “scared” wojo to the point where we’re always going to be playing a pretty damn tough schedule
Agree to some extent, but if we had beaten DePaul & Belmont at home that year we arguably could have been dancing. NIT at minimum.
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Agree to some extent, but if we had beaten DePaul & Belmont at home that year we arguably could have been dancing. NIT at minimum.
I agree 100% and it drives me crazy but what I mean is that he sees a 20wom team on his record that has nothing to show for it and I think it motivates him to schedule for errors like that now
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We don't need 20 wins. We have a tougher schedule than we did last year, and last year 19 was enough.
Curious how many team got in the tournament with 19 wins and how many with 20?
I wouldn't want to totally rely on the selection committees grace to get in with 19 wins.
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I really believe that the 15-16 almost “scared” wojo to the point where we’re always going to be playing a pretty damn tough schedule
I don't know, I still think that had to be deliberate. This is from the 2015 schedule thread:
This is absolutely ridiculous. Suffice to say, seeing 7 sub-300 RPI teams on the schedule is something I'm not happy with. Here's why:
NCAA Hopes
This will tank our RPI and SOS. Forget about scheduling high major teams like Ohio State or Vanderbilt, even scheduling decent mid and low major teams would make a difference...My estimation is that Marquette probably needs to win 22-23 games just to be on the NCAA bubble, and that's assuming they don't lose to one of these teams.
The entire thread is worth a look, especially some of mu03eng's number crunching, but if we on Scoop knew in pre-season Marquette needed 22-23 wins to get to the bubble, then Wojo and the Athletic Department knew it too. They wanted a winning record and were willing to sacrifice postseason play to get it.
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I don't know, I still think that had to be deliberate. This is from the 2015 schedule thread:
The entire thread is worth a look, especially some of mu03eng's number crunching, but if we on Scoop knew in pre-season Marquette needed 22-23 wins to get to the bubble, then Wojo and the Athletic Department knew it too. They wanted a winning record and were willing to sacrifice postseason play to get it.
But wasn’t his whole narrative that season “if we knew who we were going to have this season we would’ve scheduled differently”
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Harry Froling = Luc Longley ?
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But wasn’t his whole narrative that season “if we knew who we were going to have this season we would’ve scheduled differently”
I really think they knew, they always knew. And if they didn't, then they should fire the people doing scheduling and hire me and eng.
And frankly, that would be ludicrous.
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Curious how many team got in the tournament with 19 wins and how many with 20?
Would want to totally rely on the selection committees grace to get in with 19 wins.
And then there are the teams with more than twenty wins that don't sniff the tournament.
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Harry Froling = Luc Longley ?
Luc was only a bit player his first year at New Mexico, but he didn't have a "head start" like Froling does. Luc went on to be a force, especially his last two seasons, and helped the team win 84 games during his 4 years. He eventually started at center for the second Bulls threepeat team.
In other words, I hope so.
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Curious how many team got in the tournament with 19 wins and how many with 20?
Would want to totally rely on the selection committees grace to get in with 19 wins.
9-seed Michigan State 19-14
9-seed Vanderbilt 19-15
10-seed Oklahoma State 20-12
10-seed Marquette 19-12
11-seed Providence 20-12
11-seed Kansas State 20-13
11-seed Wake Forest 19-13
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Luc was only a bit player his first year at New Mexico, but he didn't have a "head start" like Froling does. Luc went on to be a force, especially his last two seasons, and helped the team win 84 games during his 4 years. He eventually started at center for the second Bulls threepeat team.
In other words, I hope so.
And, so it is written and so it shall be.
A nice Christmas Miracle!
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9-seed Michigan State 19-14
9-seed Vanderbilt 19-15
10-seed Oklahoma State 20-12
10-seed Marquette 19-12
11-seed Providence 20-12
11-seed Kansas State 20-13
11-seed Wake Forest 19-13
So what you're saying is that a Marquette team with 19 wins was seeded higher than a Providence team with 20 wins ... even though Providence beat us twice?
That's impossible because I thought we HAD to win 20 games?
So confused!!
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So what you're saying is that a Marquette team with 19 wins was seeded higher than a Providence team with 20 wins ... even though Providence beat us twice?
That's impossible because I thought we HAD to win 20 games?
So confused!!
It was grace by the selection committee. #winsnomatta
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So what you're saying is that a Marquette team with 19 wins was seeded higher than a Providence team with 20 wins ... even though Providence beat us twice?
That's impossible because I thought we HAD to win 20 games?
So confused!!
Yeah and we were gifted essentially a home team that would make a run to the Final Four as our opening opinion. You will never convince me otherwise that the committee slotted us that way because we should have been a lower seed but couldn't for various reasons.
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I really think they knew, they always knew. And if they didn't, then they should fire the people doing scheduling and hire me and eng.
And frankly, that would be ludicrous.
A live look-in to a Brew/Eng run office:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Yl5aO3gdVfsQ0/giphy.gif)
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Yeah and we were gifted essentially a home team that would make a run to the Final Four as our opening opinion. You will never convince me otherwise that the committee slotted us that way because we should have been a lower seed but couldn't for various reasons.
I don’t think the committee wanted S Carolina to make the final four that would make zero sense as they aren’t a Cinderella story to bring eyes and aren’t a basketball school that’d care.
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A live look-in to a Brew/Eng run office:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Yl5aO3gdVfsQ0/giphy.gif)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/12aYyZks1jOkOk/giphy.gif)
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I don’t think the committee wanted S Carolina to make the final four that would make zero sense as they aren’t a Cinderella story to bring eyes and aren’t a basketball school that’d care.
It wasn't about South Carolina itself, but the match up. We were overseeded, to compensate they gave us a less than ideal match-up. Basically it was a 7-10 that looked/acted more like a 6-11 or 5-12.
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A live look-in to a Brew/Eng run office:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Yl5aO3gdVfsQ0/giphy.gif)
Well at least Brew is a firefighter
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https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/MU-Asst-Coach-Chris-Carrawell-on-Harry-Froling-112277559
Coach Carrawell on Froling. Yes, I know it is Dodds and it is fluff. Still better than any other info we are getting. Counting down.
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need to win the games we're supposed to win and steal a few others-highway harry will help. let's just sit back and enjoy
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We need to score more points than the other team.
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We need to give 110%
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It can't be that hard to be an upgrade defensively over Heldt for HF. If HF can actually get his arms up, jump, and challenge a shot then he will do better then Heldt.
Set some big screens and hit a few jumpers and its an upgrade.
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We need to show up to play.
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Shaka really said all there is to say: "Play basketball with those guys!"
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Yeah and we were gifted essentially a home team that would make a run to the Final Four as our opening opinion. You will never convince me otherwise that the committee slotted us that way because we should have been a lower seed but couldn't for various reasons.
What were the "various reasons" the committee couldn't have given us a lower seed?
Conspiracy theories are like you, mu03.
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There's a link in there to another pretty good article:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/how-a-body-transformation-and-an-opportunistic-friendship-with-thon-maker-has-harry-froling-back-on-track/news-story/ba8677a1765c2f693a7d890fd154ad79 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/how-a-body-transformation-and-an-opportunistic-friendship-with-thon-maker-has-harry-froling-back-on-track/news-story/ba8677a1765c2f693a7d890fd154ad79)
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https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/MU-Asst-Coach-Chris-Carrawell-on-Harry-Froling-112277559
Coach Carrawell on Froling. Yes, I know it is Dodds and it is fluff. Still better than any other info we are getting. Counting down.
This is an excellent article. Dodds works hard to get us good information .
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It can't be that hard to be an upgrade defensively over Heldt for HF. If HF can actually get his arms up, jump, and challenge a shot then he will do better then Heldt.
Set some big screens and hit a few jumpers and its an upgrade.
Literally what are you talking about, Heldt is solid on D
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There's a link in there to another pretty good article:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/how-a-body-transformation-and-an-opportunistic-friendship-with-thon-maker-has-harry-froling-back-on-track/news-story/ba8677a1765c2f693a7d890fd154ad79 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/how-a-body-transformation-and-an-opportunistic-friendship-with-thon-maker-has-harry-froling-back-on-track/news-story/ba8677a1765c2f693a7d890fd154ad79)
Now we just need for Wojo to start demotivating Froling
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Literally what are you talking about, Heldt is solid on D
Agree 100%.
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We need to show up to play.
with our game faces on
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We need to play 'em one at a time.
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You see Harry in the huddle and he is obviously tall. But, compared to Sam is shocking. He looks like a legit 7’.
Congrats to Harry and Todd for that transformation. Head and body are now in the right spot.
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I hope everyone realizes he is a below the rim type of player, he will not block many shots and really is not a great rebounder. He can score and you can not teach
height, he has that. I expect big things the following 2 years for sure. He will play the 4 at times, but I think he will be better utilized at the 5 if they change the O
for him at times. He can go outside, open the lane and be open for a shot. I am just curious and I would ask Wojo this question. I can not believe that Matt could not
do the samething. Never gives him a chance. Free throw form is really good, and I think he can do more than dunk, lay-ups and a baby hook. I am sure he practices
shooting from the perimeter, in this generation, they all try. I hope Morrow is working on that part of his game for next year as well.
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We need to play 'em one at a time.
Like our backs are up against the wall.
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We don't need no meows, we don't need no cats...we need more dogs
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Harry puts on his pants one leg at a time.
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"Harry plays like his hair is on fire."
-Malek Harris
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Crean sucks
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If I hear "from down under to DOWN TOWN!" once i'm going to loose my sh!t
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If I hear "from down under to DOWN TOWN!" once i'm going to loose my sh!t
In a good way or a bad way?
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Trevor Mbakwe is looking forward to seeing Harry.
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In a good way or a bad way?
Bad way. Unless he has some freaky good move that seems so obvious but works every time and can labeled #theDownUnder
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It's a simple game. You hit the ball, you throw the ball, you catch the ball. You got it?!
Wait...
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Well this thread went to crap.
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I just hope he has hops like a kangaroo.
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I'm glad its a mystery....like Star Wars spoilers...don't want to know what FRO can do until the NIU and American games.
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Bad way. Unless he has some freaky good move that seems so obvious but works every time and can labeled #theDownUnder
Depends on what part of downunder you are talking about.
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I hope he modeled his game after this guy.
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/f7/75/34/f775349e888aefe4c6865b8286bfc730.jpg)
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I hope everyone realizes he is a below the rim type of player, he will not block many shots and really is not a great rebounder. He can score and you can not teach
height, he has that. I expect big things the following 2 years for sure. He will play the 4 at times, but I think he will be better utilized at the 5 if they change the O
for him at times. He can go outside, open the lane and be open for a shot. I am just curious and I would ask Wojo this question. I can not believe that Matt could not
do the samething. Never gives him a chance. Free throw form is really good, and I think he can do more than dunk, lay-ups and a baby hook. I am sure he practices
shooting from the perimeter, in this generation, they all try. I hope Morrow is working on that part of his game for next year as well.
How do you know? Have you watched him play?
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How do you know? Have you watched him play?
Yes. I have seen him play and I have seen videos. He does not jump well and I would say he is a poor mans Henry Ellenson on overall physical talent. In the
right situation he can flourish, up to Wojo to see that happens. Heldt and Harry on the court will not be to good against teams in the Big East, very athletic conference.
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Really looking forward to see what HF brings to the table. If what I've read turns out to be true, his shooting will open up driving lanes for strong SA drives, MH floaters and SH short pull ups. SH will really benefit from this and get some solid minutes at the 3. SH will dominate opposing 3s in the post
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Looking forward to seeing him play now that he is in shape........
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Really looking forward to see what HF brings to the table. If what I've read turns out to be true, his shooting will open up driving lanes for strong SA drives, MH floaters and SH short pull ups. SH will really benefit from this and get some solid minutes at the 3. SH will dominate opposing 3s in the post
SH = Sam Hauser. HammerScreen = HS. Who's the biggest Sam fan? All of us!.....AND Sam's family. So welcome Hauser kinsman/woman, Sam will be fantastic at MU regardless of who he's on the court with.
Note: if i was a betting man i'd say this is MUFINY's 4th personality
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You see Harry in the huddle and he is obviously tall.
I am sick of TV showing our huddle and all Harry is doing is being tall.
Other teams, the tall players are so much more than tall in the huddle. They are motivating their teammates with great motivational motivation.
Our huddles suck. First Wojo's cliches, now Harry's tallness. Sucky!
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There's a link in there to another pretty good article:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/how-a-body-transformation-and-an-opportunistic-friendship-with-thon-maker-has-harry-froling-back-on-track/news-story/ba8677a1765c2f693a7d890fd154ad79 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/how-a-body-transformation-and-an-opportunistic-friendship-with-thon-maker-has-harry-froling-back-on-track/news-story/ba8677a1765c2f693a7d890fd154ad79)
Not good!
Froling’s diet followed suit. He told a story of how he once ate a tube of Pringles for breakfast, so that was clearly a part of his life he knew he needed to alter.
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Froling’s diet followed suit. He told a story of how he once ate a tube of Pringles for breakfast, so that was clearly a part of his life he knew he needed to alter.
(https://i.imgur.com/tyx9emw.gif)
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https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2017/12/16/slimmed-down-center-harry-froling-now-eligible-marquette/949057001/
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Froling looked solid at practice today. Harry and Sam battled one another extremely hard, and Harry held his own on both ends of the floor. I would expect him to get as many, or more, minutes as Matt for the remainder of the season. Incidentally, Theo continues to improve at a steady rate, as well. If he can play without being in foul trouble, he will be very productive. He had another man-sized block (similar to the one he had at Madison), and his offensive moves are very fluid for a man his size. He is strong, athletic and skilled.
With Harry being immediately inserted into the lineup, and Theo demanding more minutes with his play, Sam will be pushed down to the 3 on a fairly regular basis. Of course, somebody has to lose minutes. My guess is those minutes will have to come from Matt and Sacar.
Also, the Froling family was in attendance today, including Harry's younger brother Sam. Sam is a senior in HS, and according to his father is currently visiting a number of schools. He said, MU is full at Sam's position, and so MU isn't a possibility, but he is considering Creighton, Colorado, and others. Dad was wearing a Colorado sweatshirt and Sam was wearing Australia National Team sweats. Sam appears to be just as tall as Harry and friendly with the MU players, however we won't be seeing that brother connection at MU, according to dad.
Starting this week, we are immediately a bigger and better team.
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(https://i.imgur.com/tyx9emw.gif)
I loved the wake-n-bake breakfasts when i was 19 (i was 6 foot 165 though)
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Froling looked solid at practice today. Harry and Sam battled one another extremely hard, and Harry held his own on both ends of the floor. I would expect him to get as many, or more, minutes as Matt for the remainder of the season. Incidentally, Theo continues to improve at a steady rate, as well. If he can play without being in foul trouble, he will be very productive. He had another man-sized block (similar to the one he had at Madison), and his offensive moves are very fluid for a man his size. He is strong, athletic and skilled.
With Harry being immediately inserted into the lineup, and Theo demanding more minutes with his play, Sam will be pushed down to the 3 on a fairly regular basis. Of course, somebody has to lose minutes. My guess is those minutes will have to come from Matt and Sacar.
Also, the Froling family was in attendance today, including Harry's younger brother Sam. Sam is a senior in HS, and according to his father is currently visiting a number of schools. He said, MU is full at Sam's position, and so MU isn't a possibility, but he is considering Creighton, Colorado, and others. Dad was wearing a Colorado sweatshirt and Sam was wearing Australia National Team sweats. Sam appears to be just as tall as Harry and friendly with the MU players, however we won't be seeing that brother connection at MU, according to dad.
Starting this week, we are immediately a bigger and better team.
Very much appreciated. I think that Harry's time at SMU should be discarded as an indicator of what to project moving forward. Coaching turmoil just after he arrived didn't do anything for him.
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Froling looked solid at practice today. Harry and Sam battled one another extremely hard, and Harry held his own on both ends of the floor........
Greatly appreciated, 94. These kind of posts are the reason I read Scoop.
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‘Harry held his own’ 8-), hey?
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Literally what are you talking about, Heldt is solid on D
I'm talking about a 6'10" Heldt that turns his shoulder away when guys come to dunk instead of hacking the $hit out of a guy and preventing the dunk.
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Froling looked solid at practice today. Harry and Sam battled one another extremely hard, and Harry held his own on both ends of the floor. I would expect him to get as many, or more, minutes as Matt for the remainder of the season. Incidentally, Theo continues to improve at a steady rate, as well. If he can play without being in foul trouble, he will be very productive. He had another man-sized block (similar to the one he had at Madison), and his offensive moves are very fluid for a man his size. He is strong, athletic and skilled.
With Harry being immediately inserted into the lineup, and Theo demanding more minutes with his play, Sam will be pushed down to the 3 on a fairly regular basis. Of course, somebody has to lose minutes. My guess is those minutes will have to come from Matt and Sacar.
Also, the Froling family was in attendance today, including Harry's younger brother Sam. Sam is a senior in HS, and according to his father is currently visiting a number of schools. He said, MU is full at Sam's position, and so MU isn't a possibility, but he is considering Creighton, Colorado, and others. Dad was wearing a Colorado sweatshirt and Sam was wearing Australia National Team sweats. Sam appears to be just as tall as Harry and friendly with the MU players, however we won't be seeing that brother connection at MU, according to dad.
Starting this week, we are immediately a bigger and better team.
Thanks a lot for this detailed update, 94.
Really looking forward to seeing Harry play. One sign that we actually are an improving team will be if Heldt's minutes go down to the 15-ish range.