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[brewcity77]

FIscher would never have made it to the finish and Manten had a career game against him last year.

Maten had 30/13 against Kansas. I'm pretty sure he's not touting 24/6 against Marquette as his career game.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

That game sucked.

[Lighthouse 84]

FIscher would never have made it to the finish and Manten had a career game against him last year.  Heldt missed his layins today, contributed to the loss.  Fischer had more than a few duds offensively and evry game defensively was a dud.
Rowseys needs to stop turning the ball over 6 times a game

Give it a rest.  Fischer doesn't play for us anymore and if he did, he would've had some points.  Matt isn't as good as Fischy was.  Maybe next year, but not now he isn't.

[tower912]

Tower:

In the other thread you were pesessmitic about this season because Hannif transferred.  You think he would have made a difference?

I don't and today's game was a good example of why his decision to leave will not affect how this team plays this season.

General manager Branch Rickey reportedly told Ralph Kiner, "We finished last with you, we can finish last without you."

I feel the sane way about Hannif,

Depth and options.  Maybe AR spends more time in the bench. 

[GoldenDieners32]

Sam did nothing on the offensive end

[CTWarrior]

1. Harry is going to have to be Bill F-ing Russel to salvage the mess that we call our interior defense.
2. Rowsey should be forbidden to drive. I know, I know, too often there is nothing else, but
3. Bad things happen when Rowsey drives.
4. Matt cannot make a contested shot.
5. The craziness of our 5 defending on 3-point land was exposed again today, as noted above.
6. The BE season will be ugly.
7. Forget the dance, forget the bubble. I hope they forget the NIT (and I remember when the NIT was something).
8. It's a bridge year.
9. Looking for positives, nice to see Jamal and Greg gaining experience. Nice game for Markus, but he too needs to learn how to stay off the pine. Imagine if Haanif or Rowsey had his floater.
10. Four years in and kind of disappointed. There don't seem to be many BE teams that we will be truly competitive with.
A lot of folks think we'll be loaded next year - time will tell.

That's what bugged me about Cheatham.  I remember thinking midway through his freshman year, "Once he develops a mid-range game, he is going to be tough to handle."  It never happened.

[GoldenDieners32]

Woj needs to make adjustments, eventually you're going to need to beat good teams

[CTWarrior]

1.  So, does anybody still think Matt is better than Luke.
2.  UGA ran Marquette's shooters off the line very well.  Good preparation for conference play.
3.  Wojo sent the message to Rowsey.  Didn't help.  Only so many options.
4.  Two early fouls on Markus messed up the whole game.
5.  Just once, it would be nice to get some home cooking from the refs.
6.  Theo looks lost.  Other frosh were solid.
7.  You can complain about Rowsey all you want.  Since there are no options, we have to live with him.
8.  In the end, the team that played better won.  Bigger, stronger, more experienced, deeper.

9.  Need to get everybody involved on the offensive end early.  Easier for everyone to score if defense has to guard everyone.  Rowsey, in particular, does not seem to trust anyone other than Howard and Hauser.

[CTWarrior]

Sam did nothing on the offensive end

This is the biggest point and gets lost in the poor games by Rowsey and Heldt.  We need him to be that third option.

[Dr. Blackheart]

According to Pomeroy, Theo is called for 13.5 fouls per 40 minutes. A different way to redshirt, I guess.

[MU82]

I'll give Rowsey some slack because we need him to score in bunches and that will mean taking some bad shots, but he can't be so loose with the ball. Same with Markus, for that matter. IIRC, the two combined for 3 turnovers in 3 trips when we had a 1-point lead with about 6 mins to go. Killers. Your guards just can't do that.

I watched in a bar with 3 other NC Warriors and I said out loud that Wojo should go back to Markus in the first half. Yeah, he got his 3rd, but he made it possible for us to stay in the game because nobody else had anything going. I would have started him in the 2nd half with the 3 fouls, too.

Need more from Sam. He's actually a decent post player; could have run Matt to the high post and put Sam down low a few times.

Georgia is a good defensive team. There's no shame in losing to them ... but we definitely could have won this game.

I know that everybody says Froling is an outside player, but I hope he has at least some interior game. Desperately need it. Any time Heldt has to play 32 mins, that can't be a good thing. On and decent team, he wouldn't average more than 15 mins; and on many elite teams, he wouldn't leave the bench.

Very encouraged by Cain and especially Elliott, who is going to be a fine college player.

Vermont is close to must-win. F&cky is important, too. Season's not over, despite some of the gloom we're feeling now.

[CTWarrior]

Woj needs to make adjustments, eventually you're going to need to beat good teams

We tried one today.  Our defense looked a lot better when one of Howard or Rowsey sat, but of course the offense suffered, particularly that stretch in the frist half when Howard and Hauser both sat.  No scorers on the floor.  That is why I like true PGs who can get everyone involved when things are going south.  I know Wojo doesn't like them, but Carter, for example, would have been helpful today.

[GoldenDieners32]

This is the biggest point and gets lost in the poor games by Rowsey and Heldt.  We need him to be that third option.

not just sam to step up but everyone

[RJax55]

This is the biggest point and gets lost in the poor games by Rowsey and Heldt.  We need him to be that third option.

The issue for Sam is that he needs ball movement, spacing and reversals for most of his opportunities. That didn't exist today. Little to no ball movement. Ball was sticking in Rowsey's hands way too much.

[chapman]

According to Pomeroy, Theo is called for 13.5 fouls per 40 minutes. A different way to redshirt, I guess.

It's been frustrating.  Any other aspects of his game can't even be evaluated much less progress made because he can't stay on the floor.  It's not even "five extra fouls to give".  Maybe one extra foul given and four added fouls committed when he fouls while trapping beyond the 3 point line or underneath when the ball is barely across half court.

[79Warrior]

FIscher would never have made it to the finish and Manten had a career game against him last year.  Heldt missed his layins today, contributed to the loss.  Fischer had more than a few duds offensively and evry game defensively was a dud.
Rowseys needs to stop turning the ball over 6 times a game

Heltd it's a backup, period. In over his head as a starter. To compare to Fisher is just stupid.

[skianth16]

Rowsey definitely struggled today, and as a senior you'd like to see him distribute more when he's not hitting shots himself. In his defense, though, when Markus was on the bench, no one else was stepping up to fill that gap. So that left us with few options on offense, and Rowsey had to try to create something, which is not exactly a strength of his.

Today also showed just how guard-dependant were going have to be all year. Our big are just not effective against real competition. Theo can't stay on the floor, and today seemed to have a pretty bad attitude on top of the poor play. Then Heldt squandered every opportunity he had. He made a few nice moves and got himself into some good positions, but my God, how did he struggle to finish on so many bunnies? Lots of work to do with this squad.

[willie warrior]

When does the heat begin to rise under Wojo's ass? All his players, including Heldt and Rowsey. Maybe Wojo should be making power point presentations to the team, since he is good at that.

[RJax55]

Rowsey definitely struggled today, and as a senior you'd like to see him distribute more when he's not hitting shots himself. In his defense, though, when Markus was on the bench, no one else was stepping up to fill that gap. So that left us with few options on offense, and Rowsey had to try to create something, which is not exactly a strength of his.

Today also showed just how guard-dependant were going have to be all year. Our big are just not effective against real competition. Theo can't stay on the floor, and today seemed to have a pretty bad attitude on top of the poor play. Then Heldt squandered every opportunity he had. He made a few nice moves and got himself into some good positions, but my God, how did he struggle to finish on so many bunnies? Lots of work to do with this squad.

How are the other guys supposed to be involved when the ball is stuck in Rowsey's hands as he dribbles down the clock and then is forced to go one-on-one? He's playing a big part in limiting the options, especially when Howard is on the bench.

[mileskishnish72]

I think of Matty's Shots today only one was even over the rim.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

What more is there to say - Really discouraging to lose to a GA team that isn't that good.

Let's hope for a more spirited effort against VT.

[MattyWarrior]

Bullmusk

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I hate to be negative about a kid who works hard and represents the program well but Heldt was very bad today.  As stated in this thread, he's more suited to play 10-12 minutes per game.

Nothing more to add about Rowsey.

The third foul on Markus was huge and that is entirely on him.  You have to have the awareness not to commit a stupid reaching foul with under a minute left in the half when you already have two.  That obviously hurt us a lot in the 2nd half with him sitting.   

The prayer of a 3 point shot at the end of the first half after we played great defense for the entire possession hurt as well. 

Really liked what I saw from Cain today.  His upside is off the charts.

Disappointing effort. 

[muguru]

When does the heat begin to rise under Wojo's ass? All his players, including Heldt and Rowsey. Maybe Wojo should be making power point presentations to the team, since he is good at that.

There's always next year...or well, if that doesn't turn out...there's the year after that, and if that fails, then there's the year after that..I think MU BB's slogan under Wojo instead of being "win everyday" should be "wait until next year". They can make different colored shirts for each year..How can you win everyday, when you can't even win home games??

[Dr. Blackheart]

At least we aren't Bucky...dear lord is tOSU dismantling them at the Kohl Hole.