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Dr. Blackheart

Phew...some breathing room. El Mago being El Mago. 6 to win, 3 for WC.

Tough night for the Brewers. Can't shake the Pirates Vex.


Dish

Clutch loss for the Sox tonight with the Marlins & Tigers winning. The fight for #3 is going to come down to the last day. Hoping the Brewers rest as many people against the Tigers next weekend.  Tomorrow will be key with the Tigers/Fish having winnable games.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Don't think I've seen a 3 run wild pitch until today.

Nice to see Knebel cruising again. I said many a harsh word about him during the course of the season but he's been lights out since returning from AAA. 10.1 IP, 0 runs, 2 hits, 2 walks, 18 Ks.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


jsglow

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 23, 2018, 06:49:39 PM
Don't think I've seen a 3 run wild pitch until today.

Nice to see Knebel cruising again. I said many a harsh word about him during the course of the season but he's been lights out since returning from AAA. 10.1 IP, 0 runs, 2 hits, 2 walks, 18 Ks.

Knebel has been lights out.  Whatever it was, I'm glad they took the time to straighten it out.

That was a successful weekend.  Need a solid stay in STL to tie this down.

dgies9156

Quote from: jsglow on September 23, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
Need a solid stay in STL to tie this down.

The Devilbird is playing pretty good ball,  Brother Glow. I would not be so sure!

Go Cards   8-)

tower912

Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2017, 03:17:15 PM
Tigers are going to be bad.    Not historically bad.    They won 43 games in 2003.     But 90-100 loss bad.  And they will make a deal for virtually anyone on the roster.    Fullmer, Castellanos, make an offer.    Basically, they want to blow it up and start on their own 5-7 year plan.
Anyone who follows baseball knew this was coming.  But I am feeling good about the 90-100 loss prediction.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChuckyChip

Quote from: tower912 on September 24, 2018, 07:10:40 AM
Anyone who follows baseball knew this was coming.  But I am feeling good about the 90-100 loss prediction.

As a Tigers fan (as I am) I don't know how you can "feel good" about predicting 90-100 losses.  Yeah, everybody knew it was coning, no great insight there.  You were pretty far off on your 'trade everyone" forecast.  Besides relatively modest deals for Martin and Fiers, the Tigers were (for better or worse) quiet at the trade deadline.


tower912

#3482
They were all available.  Nobody wanted them.  Fulmer has spent the year hurt and is 3-12.  Castellanos had a nice season offensively, but statistically is a worse defensive outfielder than Schwarber.  Nobody bit on Iglesias or Greene.   Everybody else on the team is basically a AAA level player.  Actually impressed that they competed hard in almost every game.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

jsglow

Quote from: dgies9156 on September 23, 2018, 09:37:16 PM
The Devilbird is playing pretty good ball,  Brother Glow. I would not be so sure!

Go Cards   8-)

They're hanging in there, no doubt.  I'm expecting a WC game at Miller next week.  But the Cards do need to be careful here.  Six games against playoff teams to finish.  4-2 would be outstanding and probably enough to hold off Colorado.  3-3?  Maybe not.  The Crew has the luxury of finishing against Detroit where 2/3 should be expected, at least.

Anti-Dentite

Quote from: jsglow on September 24, 2018, 09:19:46 AM
They're hanging in there, no doubt.  I'm expecting a WC game at Miller next week.  But the Cards do need to be careful here.  Six games against playoff teams to finish.  4-2 would be outstanding and probably enough to hold off Colorado.  3-3?  Maybe not.  The Crew has the luxury of finishing against Detroit where 2/3 should be expected, at least.
7 at home against the Phillies and Nationals, Brewers and Cardinals along with Dodgers still have work to do.
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WI inferiority Complexes

Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on March 28, 2018, 03:28:08 PM
Opening Day tomorrow

PECOTA projections for 2018:

AL East
NYY 97-65
BOS 89-73
TB 83-79
TOR 79-83
BAL 70-92

AL Central
CLE 96-66
MIN 82-80
CWS 72-90
DET 68-94
KC 65-97

AL West
HOU 99-63
SEA 82-80
LAA 79-83
OAK 76-96
TEX 75-87

NL East
WSH 88-74
PHI 81-81
NYM 80-82
ATL 76-86
MIA 65-97

NL Central
CHC 91-71
STL 85-77
MIL 84-78
PIT 78-84
CIN 75-87

NL West
LAD 97-65
ARZ 87-75
SFG 83-79
COL 78-84
SD 73-89

I always think it's interesting to revisit PECOTA Projections. 
The program had the AL Playoff teams as: NYY, BOS, CLE, MIN, HOU (they overestimated the Twins and missed the A's).
The program had the NL Playoff teams as: WSH, CHC, STL, LAD, and ARZ (they overestimated the Nats and DBacks, and missed the Brewers and the Braves).

MU82

Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on September 24, 2018, 10:35:12 AM
I always think it's interesting to revisit PECOTA Projections. 
The program had the AL Playoff teams as: NYY, BOS, CLE, MIN, HOU (they overestimated the Twins and missed the A's).
The program had the NL Playoff teams as: WSH, CHC, STL, LAD, and ARZ (they overestimated the Nats and DBacks, and missed the Brewers and the Braves).

The Twins?

Were lots of prognosticators actually expecting big things from them?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TAMU, Knower of Ball

#3487
Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on September 24, 2018, 10:35:12 AM
I always think it's interesting to revisit PECOTA Projections. 
The program had the AL Playoff teams as: NYY, BOS, CLE, MIN, HOU (they overestimated the Twins and missed the A's).
The program had the NL Playoff teams as: WSH, CHC, STL, LAD, and ARZ (they overestimated the Nats and DBacks, and missed the Brewers and the Braves).

Crazy thing is that their biggest misses record wise are the Orioles and Red Sox. The Os already have 18 more losses than they projected and still have 7 games to go. The Sox already have 16 more wins than projected with 6 games still to go. That's how high the highs have been and how low the lows have been.

Also, all four of the Cubs, Brewers, Cardinals, and Pirates should outplay their projected records. Central strong!
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


buckchuckler

Quote from: MU82 on September 24, 2018, 11:02:56 AM
The Twins?

Were lots of prognosticators actually expecting big things from them?

Yeah.  I believe they were widely predicted to make the playoffs.  Most prognosticators seemed to predict the same playoff teams as last year for the AL.

buckchuckler

The Dodgers are 58-38 in games in which Justin Turner plays.  They are 30-31 in games without him. 

CTWarrior

Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on September 24, 2018, 10:35:12 AM
I always think it's interesting to revisit PECOTA Projections. 
The program had the AL Playoff teams as: NYY, BOS, CLE, MIN, HOU (they overestimated the Twins and missed the A's).
The program had the NL Playoff teams as: WSH, CHC, STL, LAD, and ARZ (they overestimated the Nats and DBacks, and missed the Brewers and the Braves).
Actually, if those were the records they projected, then Tampa Bay would have been the second wild card, not Minnesota.  I'm amazed at what Tampa Bay is able to do while spending no money.  I hate that opener idea of theirs, but it is smart and everyone will be using it in the next few years when they are not starting a very good pitcher.

One thing I hope MLB never does is expand the roster to 26 because there are too many pitchers now.  While all these flamethrowers throwing 98 for one inning is effective, it is not entertaining.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

MU82

If it makes people feel any better, the Cardinals now have a worse record than either of the two other division leaders.

Meanwhile, the Brewers refuse to go away ... and the Cubbies refuse to score more than (or less than) 1 run in games against the Pirates!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

The Pirates are pesky.  The Brewers know that much too well.  That is the team that is "decent," not the Reds.

The problem for the Brewers is that if the Cubs go 3-3 the Brewers need to go 4-1 just to force a one game playoff for the division winner, and that would be at Wrigley.  The Brewers could go 4-1 (split the last 2 with the Cards, sweep the Tigers at home to close out the season), but to win it outright I don't think the Cubs are going 2-4 down the stretch.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: wadesworld on September 25, 2018, 08:35:17 AM
The Pirates are pesky.  The Brewers know that much too well.  That is the team that is "decent," not the Reds.

The problem for the Brewers is that if the Cubs go 3-3 the Brewers need to go 4-1 just to force a one game playoff for the division winner, and that would be at Wrigley.  The Brewers could go 4-1 (split the last 2 with the Cards, sweep the Tigers at home to close out the season), but to win it outright I don't think the Cubs are going 2-4 down the stretch.

Anything is possible.  It may come down to the extra game the Cubs have to play. 

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: wadesworld on September 25, 2018, 08:35:17 AM
The Pirates are pesky.  The Brewers know that much too well.  That is the team that is "decent," not the Reds.

The problem for the Brewers is that if the Cubs go 3-3 the Brewers need to go 4-1 just to force a one game playoff for the division winner, and that would be at Wrigley.  The Brewers could go 4-1 (split the last 2 with the Cards, sweep the Tigers at home to close out the season), but to win it outright I don't think the Cubs are going 2-4 down the stretch.

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Benny B

Did anyone hear the official ruling from Cardinals fans on whether Jennings' 3-pitch start was acceptable by baseball standards?

Hopefully the answer is no, as I'm looking forward to seeing a few runs scored on HBP's tonight.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

GGGG

Quote from: Benny B on September 25, 2018, 09:59:19 AM
Did anyone hear the official ruling from Cardinals fans on whether Jennings' 3-pitch start was acceptable by baseball standards?

Hopefully the answer is no, as I'm looking forward to seeing a few runs scored on HBP's tonight.


It's only acceptable for Cardinal fans if Jennings also received an OWI last night.

🏀

Quote from: #bansultan on September 25, 2018, 10:13:16 AM

It's only acceptable for Cardinal fans if Jennings also received an OWI last night.

+1

Jockey

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 25, 2018, 09:38:49 AM
Anything is possible.  It may come down to the extra game the Cubs have to play.

I heard they had to play seven games in seven hours on Thursday

GGGG

Quote from: Jockey on September 25, 2018, 10:23:24 AM
I heard they had to play seven games in seven hours on Thursday


In slightly chilly weather. 

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