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jesmu84

Quote from: MU82 on August 21, 2018, 03:02:56 PM
Good get for the Cubs. He can get hot and carry a team for a week. Excellent insurance for Bryant.

I think Murphy plays 2B, Javy goes to SS, Addison goes to DL. Bote stays at 3B until Bryant is healthy. Zobrist spells Murphy occasionally.

buckchuckler

As someone who hates the Cubs,  I hate this move.  Murphy instantly becomes their best (not most powerful, dangerous or of course -- exciting) hitter.  He is a completely different style hitter from anything they have and makes them much more dangerous lineup. 

I honestly can't believe he made it through the rest of the NL.

And I had the right team for Harper, they just couldn't get the deal done.

MUEng92

Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 21, 2018, 01:35:54 PM
Daniel Murphy to Cubs confirmed.

If you can't beat him, make him join you...

I would change the channel if I was watching a Cubs game and he came to bat because I didn't want to see him hit ANOTHER home run.  At least that is what it seemed like.  I hope he doesn't suck against everyone but the Cubs.

TallTitan34

Quote from: buckchuckler on August 21, 2018, 04:55:21 PM
I honestly can't believe he made it through the rest of the NL.

I'm surprised the Brewers didn't make a claim just to block the Cubs.  Worst case they get stuck with another middle infielder.

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#UnleashSean

Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 21, 2018, 07:59:47 PM
I'm surprised the Brewers didn't make a claim just to block the Cubs.  Worst case they get stuck with another middle infielder.

Ehh the Brewers are going to waste talent to block the Cubs, who are going to win the division anyways, a middle infielder? Sterns isn't that petty or that stupid.

buckchuckler

Quote from: #UnleashTravis on August 21, 2018, 10:32:34 PM
Ehh the Brewers are going to waste talent to block the Cubs, who are going to win the division anyways, a middle infielder? Sterns isn't that petty or that stupid.

Not really, at all.  How would they have been wasting talent? 

Dish

Before the rain delay, Kopech struck out Mauer to end the inning. My son Bradley was lucky and is now in possession of that ball that was strike 3.

TallTitan34

Quote from: #UnleashTravis on August 21, 2018, 10:32:34 PM
Ehh the Brewers are going to waste talent to block the Cubs, who are going to win the division anyways, a middle infielder? Sterns isn't that petty or that stupid.

Worst case for the Brewers, they just eat the remainder of Murphy's contract for the year and get a decent hitter  The Brewers wouldn't have to give up any talent.

MU82

Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 22, 2018, 08:17:03 AM
Worst case for the Brewers, they just eat the remainder of Murphy's contract for the year and get a decent hitter  The Brewers wouldn't have to give up any talent.

There was a stretch a few years back (I can't remember when exactly) that a few of these guys were claimed just so the opponent didn't get him. That seems very, very rare now.

In this case, TT34, I agree with you for the exact reason you state. If Murphy helps the Cubs the way, say, Edmonds did in 2008, and if the Brewers finish a game behind the Cubs and miss the postseason, they will deserve some scorn.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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#2785
Quote from: MU82 on August 22, 2018, 01:14:16 PM
There was a stretch a few years back (I can't remember when exactly) that a few of these guys were claimed just so the opponent didn't get him. That seems very, very rare now.

In this case, TT34, I agree with you for the exact reason you state. If Murphy helps the Cubs the way, say, Edmonds did in 2008, and if the Brewers finish a game behind the Cubs and miss the postseason, they will deserve some scorn.

Wasn't that Alex Rios to the Sox? Buck?

Shaka Shart

Quote from: MUDish on August 22, 2018, 12:05:45 AM
Before the rain delay, Kopech struck out Mauer to end the inning. My son Bradley was lucky and is now in possession of that ball that was strike 3.

That's awesome.
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TallTitan34

Rios was a $60 million block.  But they got some good years from him.

TallTitan34

Quote from: MU82 on August 22, 2018, 01:14:16 PM
There was a stretch a few years back (I can't remember when exactly) that a few of these guys were claimed just so the opponent didn't get him. That seems very, very rare now.

I think this still happens, just more often than not the team offering the player pulls him back off waivers.

wadesworld

Between every Cubs fan I've ever known claiming Murphy was on steroids and then getting all mad that a Brewers fan would claim Jake Arrieta was on steroids plus Murphy's comments on Billy Beane's homosexuality following Cubs fans outrage at Hader's Tweets as a teenager, seeing how fast Cubs fans can backpedal is going to be awesome to watch if Murphy plays well for them.

JWags85

Quote from: mannionsworld on August 22, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Between every Cubs fan I've ever known claiming Murphy was on steroids and then getting all mad that a Brewers fan would claim Jake Arrieta was on steroids plus Murphy's comments on Billy Beane's homosexuality following Cubs fans outrage at Hader's Tweets as a teenager, seeing how fast Cubs fans can backpedal is going to be awesome to watch if Murphy plays well for them.

Did every Cubs fan go out of their way to bring it up in any baseball conversation?  And I'm pretty sure there is no backpedaling cause every comment has been along the lines of "hate Murphy for killing the Cubs in 2015, but hope he helps in the post season"

And if you can't find the difference between "i hate gay people" and Murphy's statement, then you're just looking for drama.  I don't agree with him, but Billy Bean has openly complimented him since the statements, but sure, your narrative plays.

wadesworld

#2791
Quote from: JWags85 on August 22, 2018, 04:35:02 PM
Did every Cubs fan go out of their way to bring it up in any baseball conversation?  And I'm pretty sure there is no backpedaling cause every comment has been along the lines of "hate Murphy for killing the Cubs in 2015, but hope he helps in the post season"

And if you can't find the difference between "i hate gay people" and Murphy's statement, then you're just looking for drama.  I don't agree with him, but Billy Bean has openly complimented him since the statements, but sure, your narrative plays.

You must've missed Billy Bean's comments on Josh Hader my friend.

First I was accused of TT of not bringing up Arrieta's steroid use since he left the Cubs and joined the Phillies, now I'm accused of going out of my way to bring up Arrieta's steroid use in any baseball conversation.  Both play I guess.

This is my exact point.  It's not cool when a Brewers fan is doing it, but when a Cubs fan is doing it IT'S DIFFERENT DUDE!

Hilarious.

buckchuckler


buckchuckler

Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 22, 2018, 03:01:47 PM
I think this still happens, just more often than not the team offering the player pulls him back off waivers.

Yeah, there really isn't any way of knowing.  I think very few of them ever get reported.

TallTitan34

Quote from: mannionsworld on August 22, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Between every Cubs fan I've ever known claiming Murphy was on steroids and then getting all mad that a Brewers fan would claim Jake Arrieta was on steroids plus Murphy's comments on Billy Beane's homosexuality following Cubs fans outrage at Hader's Tweets as a teenager, seeing how fast Cubs fans can backpedal is going to be awesome to watch if Murphy plays well for them.

I haven't seen any Cubs fans here or elsewhere excuse Murphy for his comments.

I also don't recall anyone accusing Daniel Murphy of steroids.  Sure Cubs fans didn't like the guy after what he did to them in 2015 but I don't recall anyone accusing him of steroids.

JWags85

Quote from: mannionsworld on August 22, 2018, 04:54:35 PM
You must've missed Billy Bean's comments on Josh Hader my friend.

First I was accused of TT of not bringing up Arrieta's steroid use since he left the Cubs and joined the Phillies, now I'm accused of going out of my way to bring up Arrieta's steroid use in any baseball conversation.  Both play I guess.

This is my exact point.  It's not cool when a Brewers fan is doing it, but when a Cubs fan is doing it IT'S DIFFERENT DUDE!

Hilarious.

I'm not TT, and yes, you brought up Arrieta and roids damn near weekly.  If you claim to have no since he went to Philly, that changes nothing.  Please go back and show all the Cubs fans screaming about Murphy and roids with even a sliver of frequency of your beating of a dead horse.

And like TT just said, nobody is excusing him for anything.  But this constant need to act like Cubs fans are high and mighty when they commented on a league wide story and most everyone agreed that people often root for less than shining individuals as long as they play for their squad.  You and Bias are seemingly the only people with a pathological idea that Cubs fans think they have never done wrong.

wadesworld

Quote from: JWags85 on August 22, 2018, 05:52:44 PM
I'm not TT, and yes, you brought up Arrieta and roids damn near weekly.  If you claim to have no since he went to Philly, that changes nothing.  Please go back and show all the Cubs fans screaming about Murphy and roids with even a sliver of frequency of your beating of a dead horse.

And like TT just said, nobody is excusing him for anything.  But this constant need to act like Cubs fans are high and mighty when they commented on a league wide story and most everyone agreed that people often root for less than shining individuals as long as they play for their squad.  You and Bias are seemingly the only people with a pathological idea that Cubs fans think they have never done wrong.

Think Wrigley boos Murphy in his first plate appearance like they would've if Hader was a Cubbie?

buckchuckler

Quote from: mannionsworld on August 22, 2018, 07:02:35 PM
Think Wrigley boos Murphy in his first plate appearance like they would've if Hader was a Cubbie?

No.  Nor would any other fan base. 

wadesworld


TallTitan34

#2799
Quote from: mannionsworld on August 22, 2018, 07:02:35 PM
Think Wrigley boos Murphy in his first plate appearance like they would've if Hader was a Cubbie?

I'm pretty sure there is a difference between cheering a guy in his first at bat with a new team and cheering a guy in his first appearance since making a fool of himself.

There's a reason it won't be a nation wide story when he gets a cheer his first time at Wrigley.

If Hader got traded to the Dodgers, no one would care if he got a standing O in his first appearance in Dodger Stadium.

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