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#UnleashSean

Baez is not moving. If any of the cubs everyday players are being shipped his name is Russell. (or Kyle)

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: MU82 on July 26, 2018, 09:54:58 AM
Trade the best slider and the best tagger in the history of baseball?

Insanity! Especially with my sources saying he also is top 3 in scratchin' and top 5 in spittin'!!

Best slapper of five since Vander Blue as well!

JWags85

1) Looking back to 2015 I wonder who expected De Grom to be the runaway stud over Harvey and Thor?  He was ROY first, but seemed like he had the lower ceiling compared to the two power pitching beasts.  Maybe thats just me.

2) Ive never been less pleased to be completely right than when I was super annoyed about signing Darvish.  Never liked him, hated the signing, ugh.

3) We laugh, but I'm sure Theo could probably convince Sandy Alderson and the Wilpon's that Baez' tagging ability is worth significant WAR.  Nothing would surprise me when it comes to Metropolitans and wasting talent.

MU82

Quote from: CTWarrior on July 26, 2018, 11:05:40 AM
I'd do it if I was the Mets, even if Baez in reality was only the second or third best tagger. 

Second or third best? Second or third?

Take it back, or the baseball gods will unleash fire and fury like the world has never seen!!!!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Happy ta bee a Brewers, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: #UnleashLaxBros on July 26, 2018, 11:52:35 AM
Baez is not moving. If any of the cubs everyday players are being shipped his name is Russell. (or Kyle)

With Bryant on the DL and his status uncertain the Cubs won't be trading any players off the major league roster. Even if Bryant was healthy that was unlikely.

Its DJOver

Quote from: buckchuckler on July 25, 2018, 08:04:11 PM
James Shields has 10 quality starts in his last 13, and has pitched into the 7th inning in 9 of them. 

Joakim Soria has given up 2 runs (earned or otherwise) since the beginning of June, and they were in the same outing.  During that stretch he is K-ing just under 13/9.  BAA of .178 and a WHIP of .93  He is sporting an OPS against him of .428.  Not too shabby. 

These 2 are probably the Sox best 2 trade chips, assuming Abreu stays on South Side.


Oh, and with the Nats under .500 and 7 games out, I wonder if they would entertain the notion of trading Harper...

Good call.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Spotcheck Billy

The Brewers acquired the right-handed pitcher Joachim Soria and cash considerations from the White Sox in exchange for pitching prospects Kodi Medeiros and Wilber Pérez, the clubs announced Thursday.

buckchuckler

Quote from: Its DJOver on July 26, 2018, 01:25:11 PM
Good call.

Glad David Stearns is a Scooper and took my sales pitch to heart.   I like the deal from the Sox side as well.  Medeiros seems to have good stuff with control issues, which falls right into the Sox strength for player development.

Its DJOver

Quote from: buckchuckler on July 26, 2018, 03:27:14 PM
Glad David Stearns is a Scooper and took my sales pitch to heart.   I like the deal from the Sox side as well.  Medeiros seems to have good stuff with control issues, which falls right into the Sox strength for player development.

His slider has looks like it has solid potential, but his control issues and his lack of ability to blow his fastball by hitters once he left Hawaii is a little concerning.

I would hope that there are still moves for the Crew to make, but adding pen depth is never a bad thing.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

TallTitan34

Sounds like the Cubs are closing in on a deal for Cole Hamels.   Word is the Cubs will pay $4 million of the $14.2 owed to him this year and the buyout of next year along with some low level prospects.

His stats away from home are pretty good but the same thing was true of Tyler Chatwood.



Not a huge move but it's cheap and keeps them under the luxury tax.  Also he can't be worse than Chatwood has been.

Pakuni

Quote from: buckchuckler on July 26, 2018, 03:27:14 PM
Glad David Stearns is a Scooper and took my sales pitch to heart.   I like the deal from the Sox side as well.  Medeiros seems to have good stuff with control issues, which falls right into the Sox strength for player development.

Could you please explain that to Lucas Giolito and Carson Fullmer?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Burnes, Jeffress, Hader, Soria, and Knebel. Not sure I've ever seen a better bullpen in Milwaukee.
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TAMU

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MerrittsMustache

Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 26, 2018, 04:11:07 PM
Sounds like the Cubs are closing in on a deal for Cole Hamels.   Word is the Cubs will pay $4 million of the $14.2 owed to him this year and the buyout of next year along with some low level prospects.

His stats away from home are pretty good but the same thing was true of Tyler Chatwood.

Not a huge move but it's cheap and keeps them under the luxury tax.  Also he can't be worse than Chatwood has been.

Obviously Hamels has been bad this year but he was really good in 2016. It's worth a shot to see if he has anything left, especially if they're giving up marginal prospects and Darvish is still going to be out a while.

You never know, Verlander had an ERA near 4 before he was traded. Perhaps a trade to a contender will rejuvenate Hamels as well (obviously not expecting Verlander-like dominance, just a decent step up from his current level of Chatwood-like ineffectiveness).


TallTitan34

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 26, 2018, 04:28:31 PM
Obviously Hamels has been bad this year but he was really good in 2016. It's worth a shot to see if he has anything left, especially if they're giving up marginal prospects and Darvish is still going to be out a while.

You never know, Verlander had an ERA near 4 before he was traded. Perhaps a trade to a contender will rejuvenate Hamels as well (obviously not expecting Verlander-like dominance, just a decent step up from his current level of Chatwood-like ineffectiveness).

Agreed.  If they had to give up anything of value I'd pass, but $4 mil and lesser prospects:  sign me up. 

TallTitan34

Well that was an exciting ending to the Cubs game.

buckchuckler

#2342
Quote from: Pakuni on July 26, 2018, 04:12:00 PM
Could you please explain that to Lucas Giolito and Carson Fullmer?

Hahaha, yeah well, you can't win 'em all.  Fulmer has been moved to the pen and seems to be doing better, albeit in a small sample size, and Giolito is a veritable success story, I mean, he hasn't walked 7 guys in a game since May!

Oh, and you would think with Strasburg going on the DL, that may push the Nats more towards selling.

They could completely load up their system, and have most of their team back and be back as a favorite in the division next year.  They could get a haul for Bryce (obviously) Murphy, Gio, Herrera, Kelley. 

Even with out Harper next season they still have Soto, Robles and Eaton in the OF, and Rendon and Turner on the IF and Scherzer and Strasburg in the rotation.  The Nationals are going to be MLBs most interesting team for the next couple days.

Vander Blue Man Group

#2343
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 26, 2018, 04:52:53 PM
Well that was an exciting ending to the Cubs game.

Was there today - great comeback and what a 9th inning. I hope Bote isn't moved because he has the potential to be a Swiss Army knife once Zobrist is done.

I liked the Chatwood signing but it's close to unsustainable at this point. He's going to have to reset this offseason.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on July 26, 2018, 04:12:00 PM
Could you please explain that to Lucas Giolito and Carson Fullmer?

Yeah, they didn't get the memo. Has Coop lost the magic or is he just better at "fixing" veteran pitchers?

chapman

Arcia back for the Brewers.  Hit .357/.438/.543 during his assignment.  Just getting last year's production from him would be a boost to the ugly bottom half of the lineup.

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 26, 2018, 04:16:53 PM
Burnes, Jeffress, Hader, Soria, and Knebel. Not sure I've ever seen a better bullpen in Milwaukee.

Albers also expected back tomorrow.  Easily the best since '11 when it was an auto-win if the starter could make it through five and they'd turn it over to Hawkins/Saito/K-Rod/Axford in order for six through nine.

jesmu84


LAZER

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 26, 2018, 06:39:16 PM
Was there today - great comeback and what a 9th inning. I hope Bote isn't moved because he has the potential to be a Swiss Army knife once Zobrist is done.

I like the Chatwood signing but it's close to unsustainable at this point. He's going to have to reset this offseason.
What's to like about it?

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: LAZER on July 26, 2018, 10:00:10 PM
What's to like about it?

Should have been past tense.  I liked it at the time.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 26, 2018, 08:27:23 PM
Cole Hamels to Cubs

Moving from a launching pad with a bad defense to a good defense. Stark home/road splits. Cubs didn't give up much so worth a shot.

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