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Author Topic: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?  (Read 54989 times)

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #150 on: June 20, 2017, 01:37:53 PM »
I don't think many have claimed that "Warriors" was unique.  But it was part of Marquette's heritage.

I think the complaint is that Golden Eagles as a replacement is just a generic nickname without any connection to the University. At least "Hilltoppers" has a tradition behind it.  And "Gold" does too in a more indirect way.

What was the connection that warriors had to the university?

I mean I get that now it has all but 13 of our NCAA appearances and 5 of our NITs but back when it started was it really connected to MU?
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #151 on: June 20, 2017, 02:35:41 PM »
What was the connection that warriors had to the university?

I mean I get that now it has all but 13 of our NCAA appearances and 5 of our NITs but back when it started was it really connected to MU?


When it started?  I have no idea.  But at the time it was replaced it meant a great deal to the University.  That's why people were upset.

Now I completely get why younger alumni don't care.  Or why they are more connected to Golden Eagles.  And that is why I have basically thrown in the towel. 

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #152 on: June 20, 2017, 04:05:15 PM »
I know this is the dead of summer.

I know there is little recruiting news.

There is even less news about the team itself.

But really folks, is this the best we can do. Seven takes on Warriors?

Get over it.

We're Furry Birds. There is no circumstance short of somebody giving Marquette $1 billion (that's BILLION with a "B") in its endowment fund that would cause the university to even consider a Warrior nickname.

Even then, if Mark Cuban gave us $1 billion, the Jesuits probably would turn it down before we would ditch the Furry Bird.

So, move on. No news here.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #153 on: June 20, 2017, 06:35:55 PM »
So you are against the primary mission of the Jesuits.....
That is a recent interpretation. Ignatius was more in line with my thinking.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #154 on: June 20, 2017, 06:58:55 PM »

When it started? 

1954 to coincide with the Braves move to Milwaukee.  This article is on MU archives site if interested.

http://www.marquette.edu/library/archives/documents/WhosonMUflag.pdf
http://www.marquette.edu/library/about/bio/thiel.php

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In 1953, the Braves professional baseball team moved from Boston to Milwaukee
and had a very successful first year with 92 wins and 62 losses that drew a then-National League record of 1.8 million fans to Milwaukee County Stadium. Tom Kitchkume, a local Milwaukee-raised Native youth (Potawatomi-Ho Chunk), served as the Indian mascot, “Chief Noc-A-Homa”, who added to the festivities. While dressed in regalia, he came out of a tipi and danced a war dance whenever one of the Braves hit a homerun.

Prompted by the popularity of the Indian mascot and nickname used by the Braves, the Marquette Student Senate adopted the “Warriors” as its sports nickname in May, 1954. Thereafter, Marquette teams used “Warriors” in conjunction with a series of three Indian images through 1986. ” In the fall of 1954, Patrick W. Buckett, a local non Indian student, began to promote the nickname through his portrayal of “Chief White Buck” at Marquette football games and homecoming events. With the name from the then popular white buck shoes, Buckett developed “White Buck” from his experiences and wardrobe with Indian-themed pageantry at a nearby Boy Scout summer camp plus support from local author W. Ben Hunt and enthusiasts of Native American powwow
celebrations. As White Buck, Buckett also hosted an award-winning Saturday morning children’s television show on WOKY-TV in Milwaukee and performed Indian dances at the 1958 Hokkaido Grand Fair in Japan
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #155 on: June 20, 2017, 07:38:16 PM »
That is a recent interpretation. Ignatius was more in line with my thinking.

So not only are you are against the primary mission of the Jesuits....you also know how to interpret the words of Saint Ignatius of Loyola better than the Jesuits.

I'm just seeking to understand.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #156 on: June 20, 2017, 07:44:26 PM »
That is a recent interpretation. Ignatius was more in line with my thinking.

So Ignatius believed in getting girls drunk and then intentionally having unprotected sex with them?

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #157 on: June 20, 2017, 08:43:47 PM »
More performance art.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #158 on: June 20, 2017, 08:49:03 PM »
So not only are you are against the primary mission of the Jesuits....you also know how to interpret the words of Saint Ignatius of Loyola better than the Jesuits.

I'm just seeking to understand.
Social Justice has nothing to do with the Jesuit Mission. Social Justice is a construct designed by conniving losers who aren't willing to work hard and want to free ride on the hard work of others .  So they give their thievery a nice sounding label.

Back in the day ,the Jesuits were the hard workers willing to take on dangerous missions to spread the word of Jesus. They were some pretty good guys . Ignatius in fact was a wealthy man.

 
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #159 on: June 20, 2017, 08:52:29 PM »
Social Justice has nothing to do with the Jesuit Mission. Social Justice is a construct designed by conniving losers who aren't willing to work hard and want to free ride on the hard work of others .  So they give their thievery a nice sounding label.

Back in the day ,the Jesuits were the hard workers willing to take on dangerous missions to spread the word of Jesus. They were some pretty good guys . Ignatius in fact was a wealthy man.

So if I work hard with a group of people to achieve social justice does that make a new category where you're just an a$$?
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« Reply #160 on: June 20, 2017, 08:56:56 PM »
And he gave it all away when he realized that anything he did for himself gave him no pleasure, but anything he did in Christ's name was better.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #161 on: June 20, 2017, 09:12:16 PM »
Crean sucks
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #162 on: June 20, 2017, 09:29:52 PM »
So if I work hard with a group of people to achieve social justice does that make a new category where you're just an a$$?
Get a real job. Parasites rob the vitality of the country.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #163 on: June 20, 2017, 10:31:00 PM »
Social Justice has nothing to do with the Jesuit Mission. Social Justice is a construct designed by conniving losers who aren't willing to work hard and want to free ride on the hard work of others .  So they give their thievery a nice sounding label.

Back in the day ,the Jesuits were the hard workers willing to take on dangerous missions to spread the word of Jesus. They were some pretty good guys . Ignatius in fact was a wealthy man.

Huh. I wonder why all those Jesuits lied to me about the importance of social justice when I was a student at Marquette.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #164 on: June 21, 2017, 12:24:11 AM »
Social Justice has nothing to do with the Jesuit Mission. Social Justice is a construct designed by conniving losers who aren't willing to work hard and want to free ride on the hard work of others .  So they give their thievery a nice sounding label.

Back in the day ,the Jesuits were the hard workers willing to take on dangerous missions to spread the word of Jesus. They were some pretty good guys . Ignatius in fact was a wealthy man.


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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #165 on: June 21, 2017, 12:46:41 AM »
What was the connection that warriors had to the university?

I mean I get that now it has all but 13 of our NCAA appearances and 5 of our NITs but back when it started was it really connected to MU?

Warriors was chosen to connect with the new Milwaukee Braves and that's why it was a Native 
American chosen as the mascot.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #166 on: June 21, 2017, 06:52:19 AM »
Warriors was chosen to connect with the new Milwaukee Braves and that's why it was a Native 
American chosen as the mascot.

So that was a connection to the city but not to the unversuty.
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #167 on: June 21, 2017, 06:59:42 AM »
Get a real job. Parasites rob the vitality of the country.

Many of the social justice individuals have "real jobs" whatever that means. It's just a passion on the side. So again if they work hard toward that end goal doesn't that mean that your stereotype is incorrect? 
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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #168 on: June 21, 2017, 07:54:35 AM »
Many of the social justice individuals have "real jobs" whatever that means. It's just a passion on the side. So again if they work hard toward that end goal doesn't that mean that your stereotype is incorrect?
You really trying to make him think logically? I've come to the conclusion that he is a Russian bot gone rogue and hacking scoop  :P
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« Reply #169 on: June 21, 2017, 08:06:26 AM »
Social Justice has nothing to do with the Jesuit Mission. Social Justice is a construct designed by conniving losers who aren't willing to work hard and want to free ride on the hard work of others .  So they give their thievery a nice sounding label.

Back in the day ,the Jesuits were the hard workers willing to take on dangerous missions to spread the word of Jesus. They were some pretty good guys . Ignatius in fact was a wealthy man.


Correct.  Spread the word of Jesus.  But what do you think the "word of Jesus" is if not based in social justice?

"Jesus replied and said, "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went away leaving him half dead. "And by chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. "Likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.

"But a Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion, and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him. "On the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said, 'Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay you.' "Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers' hands?" And he said, "The one who showed mercy toward him." Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do the same."

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #170 on: June 21, 2017, 08:17:22 AM »

Correct.  Spread the word of Jesus.  But what do you think the "word of Jesus" is if not based in social justice?

"Jesus replied and said, "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went away leaving him half dead. "And by chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. "Likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.

"But a Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion, and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him. "On the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said, 'Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay you.' "Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers' hands?" And he said, "The one who showed mercy toward him." Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do the same."

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Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Why Is It Ok For Golden State To Be Warriors But Not MU?
« Reply #171 on: June 21, 2017, 08:37:50 AM »
the 50's were the golden age for nicknames in Milwaukee.

Marquette Warriors
MLB Braves
NBA Blackhawks (shortened to Hawks)
minor league hockey Milwaukee Chiefs

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« Reply #172 on: June 21, 2017, 08:45:49 AM »
You really trying to make him think logically? I've come to the conclusion that he is a Russian bot gone rogue and hacking scoop  :P

I cannot believe that anyone is so blissfully ignorant and irrational. I mean willie is, but he comes off more like a person having a temper tantrum but this guy cannot possibly be this illogical.
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« Reply #173 on: June 21, 2017, 08:51:14 AM »
I cannot believe that anyone is so blissfully ignorant and irrational. I mean willie is, but he comes off more like a person having a temper tantrum but this guy cannot possibly be this illogical.

Have you not been paying attention? 
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« Reply #174 on: June 21, 2017, 08:56:38 AM »
Have you not been paying attention?

Not really. I just know you think it's performance art, is there any reasoning behind that?
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