Top 5 MU Players of All Time

[Goose]

Quite surprised by how easily the word great has been referenced to guys that I believe are not even close to be being great. MU has had a lot of good players, a nice number of very good players and about a handful and a half of great players.

[dgies9156]

Quite surprised by how easily the word great has been referenced to guys that I believe are not even close to be being great. MU has had a lot of good players, a nice number of very good players and about a handful and a half of great players.

Goose is right on the mark. The great ones are guys that can make our team and our program elite.

The very good ones are instrumental in getting us in the tournament.

The good ones have great statistics, played aspects of the game well or had some other memorable characteristic.

In short, it's about the team. DWade, Butch and Bo weren't just prolific scorers. They were essential cogs to Final Four teams -- Bo twice. Lucas was instrumental in getting us to the 1974 National Championship game.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I hope you realize that McNeal, Hayward, and James played 4 years to Thompson's 3 years.

None of them could touch George as a scorer.

I am aware. Jerel played 130 games, Lazar 138, Thompson only 87. Just pointing out Hayward was omitted in another post.

[Goose]

dgies9156

IMO, MU has had great players that would have been great anywhere they went. Have also had players that might have been great if they went elsewhere. The great one's are noticed even by casual fans. I am tough grader and many of the post Al names mentioned do not register as great or even very good to me.

[Earl Tatum]

Strictly College--We had many-- In the early years 50's and 60's--Bob Wolf, Terry Rand, Mike Moran, Russ Wittberger, Tom Flynn, Ron Glaser, and Don Kojis. Check the records. Others I liked  and belong on 2nd tier were
Trevor, Powell, Damon Key, Sam Worthen and Gary Brell. Think Bernard
Toone would have been with Chones and Lucas if he would have applied
himself. Memories.
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[MUDPT]

Jared McNeal #1 scorer in MU history
Dom James #3 all-time (George Thompson #2)

Interesting that they have gotten almost no mention, especially Dom James.

Jerel wasn't the best player on his team. James was better. Lazar was better for 3 years. Matthews would have been better for 4 years, if not for the setup under Crean. Jerel was a volume scorer, shot us out of as many games as he kept them in. Was a good defensive player, who also cost us the 09 nova game on a back door cut when he was caught ball watching.

[Goose]

Putting Trevor Powell and Gary Brell in same sentence should ban that person from attending games for a decade.

[brewcity77]

Jared McNeal #1 scorer in MU history
Dom James #3 all-time (George Thompson #2)

Interesting that they have gotten almost no mention, especially Dom James.

How has no one pointed out that Marquette's leading scorer who left less than a decade ago (so fresh in the memory) is apparently easy to confuse with the Subway guy? Jared? Seriously?

[willie warrior]

Jerel wasn't the best player on his team. James was better. Lazar was better for 3 years. Matthews would have been better for 4 years, if not for the setup under Crean. Jerel was a volume scorer, shot us out of as many games as he kept them in. Was a good defensive player, who also cost us the 09 nova game on a back door cut when he was caught ball watching.

Remember that nova game. That defensive lapse by McNeal cost us big time and should never have occurred at that point by a supposed good defender. He was hugely overrated as a defensive player.

[willie warrior]

Putting Trevor Powell and Gary Brell in same sentence should ban that person from attending games for a decade.

Now C'mon Goose. Trevor Powell and Gary Brell and Polonowski all played for MU. All in the same sentence. No offense meant with that sentence.

[GGGG]

Putting Trevor Powell and Gary Brell in same sentence should ban that person from attending games for a decade.

Trevor Powell was a good player on some really bad Marquette teams.  Averaged 11+/6+ in all four years.  Lead the nation in eFG as a senior.  Top ten in rebounds (and per game) and blocks (and per game) his junior and senior years.

[Nukem2]

Remember that nova game. That defensive lapse by McNeal cost us big time and should never have occurred at that point by a supposed good defender. He was hugely overrated as a defensive player.

Yes, had the same tendencies as JaJuan in jumping the ball.  Normally, DJ and Wes could cover for him though (except for that Nova game in the BET).

[Herman Cain]

To put a slightly different spin on this topic. Here is how I rate the top 5 MU players for their combined  MU and NBA Careers
1. D Wade- Tops Lucas on basis of more titles and carried MU Individual Achievements through to next level . 
2. Lucas- One of Top Players at his position for many years and won a title. One of MU Best.
3. Chones  - Was a  consistent top level performer for many years and key performer on an NBA title team.  MU record of 50-1 speaks for itself
4. Butler- Could rise as career progress. MU performance in the upper echelon.
5. Kojis- 2 time NBA All Star validates Superior Collegiate Performance at MU (18.6 p/15.1 r)

Honorable Mention
Wes Matthews- If he gets an NBA title could move up  .  MU performance in the Upper Echelon.
Earl Tatum NBA Career Cut Short by Injury clearly Top 10 at MU
***Glenn Rivers - If Rivers NBA Coaching Career is included with NBA and College he would be top 5

[Goose]

Willie

All played at MU and all appreciated. If you are having discussion on all time greats, the conversation should remain intelligent. Trevor Powell is as much as an all time great as Pat Foley. He was a nice player in the darkest era of MU ball in my lifetime.

[Nukem2]

Willie

All played at MU and all appreciated. If you are having discussion on all time greats, the conversation should remain intelligent. Trevor Powell is as much as an all time great as Pat Foley. He was a nice player in the darkest era of MU ball in my lifetime.

Powell way beyond Foley.  Trevor was a very good player on bad Dukiet teams, that's all.  A guy like him would be very helpful this year.

[Jockey]

Putting Trevor Powell and Gary Brell in same sentence should ban that person from attending games for a decade.

Of course, those of us who saw both guys know the difference.

Kinda like the poster that put Aaron Hutchins in the top 5 while not including Lee or Meminger. Beyond belief. It is not just recency bias - I don't think some people are able to recognize greatness.

You talked about the difference between good and great players in a post. It is shocking how many people have no concept of the difference.

[Jockey]

How has no one pointed out that Marquette's leading scorer who left less than a decade ago (so fresh in the memory) is apparently easy to confuse with the Subway guy? Jared? Seriously?

That was just Heisy. We expect that from him.

[Jockey]

Trevor Powell was a good player on some really bad Marquette teams.  Averaged 11+/6+ in all four years.  Lead the nation in eFG as a senior.  Top ten in rebounds (and per game) and blocks (and per game) his junior and senior years.

I think you made his point.

Brell had better scoring and rebounding numbers while on the floor with Chones, Meminger, and Lackey, among others.

[Earl Tatum]

Question was --"Top 5 Players at MU" strictly college.

[CTWarrior]

1.  Lee (don't see how this is a debate.  Final Four Most Outstanding Player for national champs in 77, National Player of the Year in 78)
2.  Wade (Fantastic all around player)
3.  Ellis (Key player on two Final Four teams is hard to ignore)
4.  Thompson (Based on what so many here have said)
5.  Lucas (Best player on a Final Four Team)

[Nukem2]

1.  Lee (don't see how this is a debate.  Final Four Most Outstanding Player for national champs in 77, National Player of the Year in 78)
2.  Wade (Fantastic all around player)
3.  Ellis (Key player on two Final Four teams is hard to ignore)
4.  Thompson (Based on what so many here have said)
5.  Lucas (Best player on a Final Four Team)

I would have to go with Dean the Dream over Brute Force. George was a very good player who was important in opening recruiting avenues for Al, but Dean was simply better.  Loved them both.

[Goose]

Earl Tatum

Of course we are talking 5 greatest players ever to play at MU. I have no idea how professional performance falls into this conversation.

[GGGG]

I think you made his point.

Brell had better scoring and rebounding numbers while on the floor with Chones, Meminger, and Lackey, among others.

I get that.  But let's not act like he was some scrub.  For instance, if he would have been on the O'Neill S16 team, I think he could have slid into the Damon Key role pretty well. 

[Jockey]

I get that.  But let's not act like he was some scrub.  For instance, if he would have been on the O'Neill S16 team, I think he could have slid into the Damon Key role pretty well.

You're right. I didn't mean to denigrate Powell. Just pointing out that Brell was a better player.

[Mutaman]

In the three years Meminger ran the team:

78 wins 9 losses

Home: 46 wins 0 losses

Case Closed!