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Jay Bee

Quote from: jsglow on May 07, 2017, 07:07:20 AM
So JB, tell me what that means.  Does that put him in the 'come off the bench, grab some rebounds, all in 15 minutes of work' range?  So in other words, Joey doesn't even blink when a player like this signs?

I would think more in the 22-26 range if he's doing that.

But, still think you can sell Joey on "players a, b and c will be more at the 5... you're not just a 4, we want you handling the ball, showing your versatility"

As far as 'competing minutes' thoughts... a guy like Theo would be the one blinking.
The portal is NOT closed.

Marcus92

I'm not sure players like Joey worry about competition for minutes. They've played against the best all their lives and proven that they belong on the court. And I think the best players recognize that success comes when you're surrounded by the best teammates.
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jsglow

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 07, 2017, 10:45:14 AM
I would think more in the 22-26 range if he's doing that.

But, still think you can sell Joey on "players a, b and c will be more at the 5... you're not just a 4, we want you handling the ball, showing your versatility"

As far as 'competing minutes' thoughts... a guy like Theo would be the one blinking.

Gotcha, thanks.

Pakuni

Quote from: Marcus92 on May 07, 2017, 02:26:11 PM
I'm not sure players like Joey worry about competition for minutes. They've played against the best all their lives and proven that they belong on the court. And I think the best players recognize that success comes when you're surrounded by the best teammates.

Agreed.
It's not as if he's going to find lesser competition for minutes at Michigan State, Notre Dame or Virginia, than he is at Marquette.
Maybe Wisconsin, but even then, there will be other fours on the roster.

Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: Marcus92 on May 07, 2017, 02:26:11 PM
I'm not sure players like Joey worry about competition for minutes. They've played against the best all their lives and proven that they belong on the court. And I think the best players recognize that success comes when you're surrounded by the best teammates.

Agree 100%.  Players want to play with the best because they will win that way.  Wojo has done a great job getting the best talent possible.  The future is bright.  The Warriors will dominate!

Jay Bee

...and if I'm Ed.. I'm thinking I want to expand my game... but if I'm his teammate.. I'm thinking "this mf'r is a workhorse, ready to get nasty and grimy"

And now we have a couple of those types. It's all quite lovely.
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LloydsLegs

The panda eats, shoots and leaves.  Whatttt!?!?!

The panda eats shoots and leaves.   True.

#CommasMatta.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: LloydsLegs on May 07, 2017, 07:31:00 PM
The panda eats, shoots and leaves.  Whatttt!?!?!

The panda eats shoots and leaves.   True.

#CommasMatta.

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muguru

For anyone that is interested..Ed Morrow's per 40 stats figure out to be, 16.5 PPG and just under 13.0 RPG. That's...All American good. Pretty sure MU has never had anyone who's per 40 stats were that good..

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/edward-morrow-1.html#all_players_per_min

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Nukem2

Quote from: muguru on May 08, 2017, 12:11:48 PM
For anyone that is interested..Ed Morrow's per 40 stats figure out to be, 16.5 PPG and just under 13.0 RPG. That's...All American good. Pretty sure MU has never had anyone who's per 40 stats were that good..

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/edward-morrow-1.html#all_players_per_min
Just a year ago, Henry was 20.0 and 11.2

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: muguru on May 08, 2017, 12:11:48 PM
For anyone that is interested..Ed Morrow's per 40 stats figure out to be, 16.5 PPG and just under 13.0 RPG. That's...All American good. Pretty sure MU has never had anyone who's per 40 stats were that good..

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/edward-morrow-1.html#all_players_per_min

If you are talking specifically rebounds per 40, you might be right. In terms of overall per 40 stats? I would put Markus, Rowsey, Luke, and JJJ's per 40 stats last season above Morrow's.

Per 40 stats are the most useless of advanced stats. I'm not even sure I would categorize them as an advanced stat. Morrow is exactly what I said. Elite rebounder, average offensive player, below average defensive player. Someone you definitely want on your team. Jay Bee posted some of his AAU stats that showed some hopeful potential for Morrow's offense and defense. Hopefully the year off gives him a chance to get healthy and expand his game. Even if he doesn't, he still will be an extremely valuable player and will likely start once eligible. I could see 9 and 8 as a reasonable prediction for his first year for us.
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bilsu

Would the defense stats be the most unreliable part? The best defender gets the best offensive player, which might make the defenders stats look worse than he is. The worse defender gets the worst offensive player, which migh make the defenders stats look better than they should. Also, your defense is affected by the other players on the team and whether you are playing out of position. The team's style also matters.

Pakuni

Quote from: Nukem2 on May 08, 2017, 12:35:24 PM
Just a year ago, Henry was 20.0 and 11.2

Jae Crowder: 21.3  and 10.2.

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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 08, 2017, 12:48:43 PM
If you are talking specifically rebounds per 40, you might be right. In terms of overall per 40 stats? I would put Markus, Rowsey, Luke, and JJJ's per 40 stats last season above Morrow's.

Per 40 stats are the most useless of advanced stats. I'm not even sure I would categorize them as an advanced stat. Morrow is exactly what I said. Elite rebounder, average offensive player, below average defensive player. Someone you definitely want on your team. Jay Bee posted some of his AAU stats that showed some hopeful potential for Morrow's offense and defense. Hopefully the year off gives him a chance to get healthy and expand his game. Even if he doesn't, he still will be an extremely valuable player and will likely start once eligible. I could see 9 and 8 as a reasonable prediction for his first year for us.

I hate per-40 stats.
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