Wichita State to the AAC

[avid1010]

Wichita  State backers have said they would write the check for football if that is the direction the school decides to go. It is good to have a rich backer.

it's not "the check"...it's multiple checks, likely over the entirety of the life of the football program. 

[GGGG]

Right now, Wichita State students pay $1,410 in student fees per year.  It's safe to say that if they decide to add football, they would increase this by a couple hundred dollars a year to help cover the cost.

[Eldon]

Football at WSU?

Wichitalkin bout, Willis?

[warriorchick]

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article86293007.html

Wichita State did a $60,000 feasibility study last year.

Per the report, start-up facility costs would be approximately $40 million, and the football team's annual budget would start at $6 million.

"For FCS (formerly Division I-AA) football, the study estimates first-year expenses of $238,500 for coaches salaries and recruiting. After a year of preparation and one of practice, expenses rise to $5.8 million for the first season of play and $6.5 million for the second season."

"For FBS football, the costs increase from $585,451 after the sport is announced to $10.5 million five years later. In that scenario, salary for coaches account for $2.5 million of the fifth-year budget. By the fifth year, the report projects revenue of $2.5 million.

The report said WSU would likely need to add one or more women's sports and lists soccer, swimming and diving, rowing and bowling (both currently non-NCAA sports at WSU) as examples. The women's additions would be to satisfy Title IX, the 1972 law enacted to ensure gender equity at publicly-funded schools."

substitute "MU" for "WSU" and  this, in a nutshell, is why Marquette will never, ever, have NCAA Football again.

[Marcus92]

substitute "MU" for "WSU" and  this, in a nutshell, is why Marquette will never, ever, have NCAA Football again.

Good point. Football is a money loser for the vast majority of universities. A recent NCAA report stated that only 20 of the 120 Division I FBS programs showed positive net revenues.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/growth-division-i-athletics-expenses-outpaces-revenue-increases

[GGGG]

Good point. Football is a money loser for the vast majority of universities. A recent NCAA report stated that only 20 of the 120 Division I FBS programs showed positive net revenues.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/growth-division-i-athletics-expenses-outpaces-revenue-increases

Football, and all of intercollegiate athletics, are more of a marketing expense rather than an operational one. 

[Nukem2]

Football, and all of intercollegiate athletics, are more of a marketing expense rather than an operational one.

True, but I don't think Wichita St. would get much marketing synergy from lower level FB.

[warriorchick]

True, but I don't think Wichita St. would get much marketing synergy from lower level FB.

And neither would MU.

[Herman Cain]

substitute "MU" for "WSU" and  this, in a nutshell, is why Marquette will never, ever, have NCAA Football again.

Dropping Football was one of the three great mistakes MU made over the last 57 years.

[Marcus92]

Dropping Football was one of the three great mistakes MU made over the last 57 years.

Couldn't disagree more. I shouldn't even ask, but what in your mind are the other two?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Couldn't disagree more. I shouldn't even ask, but what in your mind are the other two?

IIRC dropping the medical school and the Warriors.

[Herman Cain]

Couldn't disagree more. I shouldn't even ask, but what in your mind are the other two?

Dropping the Medical School and not closing off Wisconsin Avenue.

[warriorchick]

Dropping the Medical School and not closing off Wisconsin Avenue.

IIRC dropping the medical school and the Warriors.

Wrong on all 3 counts.

[Newsdreams]

IIRC dropping the medical school and the Warriors.

Not firing Wojo and making Stan HC

[Herman Cain]

Wrong on all 3 counts.

Our US News ranking , endowment and overall prestige of the University would have been much higher. I still think we should try and do all three.

[warriorchick]

Our US News ranking , endowment and overall prestige of the University would have been much higher. I still think we should try and do all three.

So how many spots would closing Wisconsin Avenue bump us up?  I will accept an estimate.

Make sure you factor in the resulting increase in crime.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Not firing Wojo and making Stan HC

Was thinking giving McCarthy and Cosby their degrees.

[warriorchick]

Was thinking giving McCarthy and Cosby their degrees.

For the record, Cosby has been given dozens of honorary degrees and Marquette was the first one to revoke theirs.

[Oldgym]

Closing Wisconsin Avenue to create a more cohesive campus was an idea Marquette floated.  It was not Marquette's decision to make.

[fjm]

So how many spots would closing Wisconsin Avenue bump us up?  I will accept an estimate.

Make sure you factor in the resulting increase in crime.

Oh the crime thing doesn't really need to be factored in. It's getting pretty rough around MU's campus more so recently. It's a shame.

[Herman Cain]

So how many spots would closing Wisconsin Avenue bump us up?  I will accept an estimate.

Make sure you factor in the resulting increase in crime.

Here are my US News Bump Estimates for each:
1. Medical School  up 25-35
2. Wisconsin Avenue up 5-10
3. Football up 3-5

I know you believe crime will increase. I have the opposite view, I believe crime would decrease. I have asked this question to campus security and they agree.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Oh the crime thing doesn't really need to be factored in. It's getting pretty rough around MU's campus more so recently. It's a shame.

Really? I graduated in 2012, so not THAT recent, but I never in my four years felt threatened at all.  And 2 of those years I lived on State.

[fjm]

Really? I graduated in 2012, so not THAT recent, but I never in my four years felt threatened at all.  And 2 of those years I lived on State.

Man I don't know. Maybe it's just irrational thoughts on my part. But I'm getting atleast an email or two a week about muggings, possible shootings, car break ins or break ins.

But it could be over reaction

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Man I don't know. Maybe it's just irrational thoughts on my part. But I'm getting atleast an email or two a week about muggings, possible shootings, car break ins or break ins.

But it could be over reaction

Certainly possible it has gotten worse.

[GGGG]

Man I don't know. Maybe it's just irrational thoughts on my part. But I'm getting atleast an email or two a week about muggings, possible shootings, car break ins or break ins.

But it could be over reaction

Just remember that Marquette is legally bound by the Clery Act to send "timely warnings" about criminal activities in the area.  That being said, what an institution determines is reportable is up to interpretation.  So Marquette could have changed their criteria making it seem like activity is increasing.