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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

GGGG


robmufan

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on April 07, 2017, 11:18:10 AM
Pretty much has become a one-bid league.

Yea, now Illinois State doesn't need to try to find a bunch of teams to play to boost their resume.


MUBBau

Quote from: robmufan on April 07, 2017, 11:44:53 AM
Yea, now Illinois State doesn't need to try to find a bunch of teams to play to boost their resume.

+1

Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup

#5
The MVC remnants are utter dreck.

After Illinois State at 49, the highest MVC school in KenPom is Loyola Chicago at 98.

Southern Illinois hasn't danced in 10 years.
Bradley hasn't danced in 11 years.
Evansville hasn't danced in 18 years.
Missouri State hasn't danced in 18 years.
Illinois State hasn't danced in 19 years.
Loyola hasn't danced in 32 years.
Indiana State has won one NCAA Tournament game in 38 years (Beating Oklahoma in 2001).
Drake has played in one NCAA Tournament game in 46 years (which it lost in 2008).

Northern Iowa, with appearances in 2015 and 2016 is a juggernaut by comparison.

As far as replacements for Wichita State go:
Favorite: Belmont
Dark Horses: Valpo, Oakland, UW-Milwaukee? SLU?
“These guys in this locker room are all warriors -- every one of them. We ought to change our name back from the Golden Eagles because Warriors are what we really are." ~Wesley Matthews

geps

Really think Wichita State will sustain success? Were they good 5 years ago? Maybe someone knows something I don't about Wichita. Although guess you could argue about Creighton too.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: geps on April 07, 2017, 12:58:19 PM
Really think Wichita State will sustain success? Were they good 5 years ago? Maybe someone knows something I don't about Wichita. Although guess you could argue about Creighton too.

Even if Marshall bolts, WSU will be better than the dregs of the AAC.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

GGGG

They were pretty good under Mark Turgeon as well.

They have the Koch Brothers as donors so they are a well supported institution. 

bradley center bat

#9
Quote from: geps on April 07, 2017, 12:58:19 PM
Really think Wichita State will sustain success? Were they good 5 years ago? Maybe someone knows something I don't about Wichita.
That was the start of the run. Since 1988, tourney bids 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 & 2017.

MarquetteDano

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on April 07, 2017, 01:01:49 PM
They have the Koch Brothers as donors so they are a well supported institution.

Yup.  Koch Industries headquarters are in Wichita and they rely heavily on graduates from Wichita State.  As long as Koch remains in Wichita the Shockers will be relevant.

The Lens

Uconn
Cincy
Temple
Memphis
Wichita State

That's not a horrible top 5 of brands.  And SMU could be good too (not sure if they sustain it).  The American is not all that bad.  Feels Conference USA-y.  It's better than you give it credit for.
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: The Lens on April 07, 2017, 03:24:18 PM
Uconn
Cincy
Temple
Memphis
Wichita State

That's not a horrible top 5 of brands.  And SMU could be good too (not sure if they sustain it).  The American is not all that bad.  Feels Conference USA-y.  It's better than you give it credit for.

The problem is the bottom 5 or so are awful.

Eastern Carolina
Tulane
Tulsa
South Florida
Central Florida
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

GGGG

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 07, 2017, 03:31:11 PM
The problem is the bottom 5 or so are awful.

Eastern Carolina
Tulane
Tulsa
South Florida
Central Florida


That's better than the bottom half of the MVC.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Marcus92

Wichita St. is probably chasing football money.
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bradley center bat

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Central Florida was pretty good this season. Love the 7'6 guy. Tacko Fall!
Wasn't Tulsa in the NCAA Tournament in 2016?

rocket surgeon

  good thing they ain't the warriors, the ACC would have none of that- eyyn'a?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

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Eldon

This is shocking to me.

Da doom pssshh..


But on a somewhat more serious note, I wonder to what extent (if any) adding WSU was a move to placate UCONN

Ellenson Guerrero

Why anyone would affirmatively want to join the AAC's cast of misfits is beyond me.
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GoldenWarrior11

Schools like Cincinnati, Tulane, Tulsa and UConn must be really swallowing their pride in admitting one of the worst academic institutions into their conference.  Further proof that the American is just a group of misfit toys clinging together for survival. 

I hope ESPN doesn't give them a substantial raise.

It must really burn those schools, which we left behind, that we make $5 million to their $1.7 million. 

manny31

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on April 08, 2017, 09:44:38 AM
Schools like Cincinnati, Tulane, Tulsa and UConn must be really swallowing their pride in admitting one of the worst academic institutions into their conference.  Further proof that the American is just a group of misfit toys clinging together for survival. 

I hope ESPN doesn't give them a substantial raise.

It must really burn those schools, which we left behind, that we make $5 million to their $1.7 million.

I doubt Cinncy cares about WSU academic reputation. Remember how many Basketball player graduated under Huggy's regime? As I recall it wasn't a very big number.......AAC is simply re-arranging deck chair on the Titanic.

GoldenWarrior11

Quote from: manny31 on April 08, 2017, 10:06:40 AM
I doubt Cinncy cares about WSU academic reputation. Remember how many Basketball player graduated under Huggy's regime? As I recall it wasn't a very big number.......AAC is simply re-arranging deck chair on the Titanic.

And how did Huggy's tenure end at Cincinnati?  With his dismissal, mostly due to the academic reputation his teams had. 

Agree 100% on the AAC/Titanic comparison.  It will never be a power conference, nor will it ever be a long-term fit for the current configuration of schools.  The power conferences are making $25 million-plus annually on TV deals.  The American, and the rest of the G5, are scrapping by making, at most, $2 million.  With each passing year, these power conference wannabes get closer and closer to being eliminated from the race. 

When you see schools like Rutgers, Washington State, Wake Forest and Kansas State making 10x the amount of a UConn, Memphis, Houston and East Carolina, it is only a matter of time before a new division within FBS is created.  The money being spent and the exposure and prestige is clearly on one side of the fence - and the teams in the American are on the wrong side of it.

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