JJJ, Luke, KR post grad playing opportunity thread

[Jay Bee]

My guess is Deonte is explosive off of one foot but not a great standing leaper. 29 is very average, which is probably why he can't rebound. Well that and effort.

He had an 18.6% DR% as a senior, at 6'5". There was only one other 6'5" or shorter high major player that had that good of a defensive rebounding percentage (Bonzie Colson).

[wadesworld]

Meeks was ranked 68th but was a McDonald's All American?

[brewcity77]

Meeks was ranked 68th but was a McDonald's All American?

Yes, and his RSCI numbers weren't much better. 56 was his composite ranking, lower than both Jajuan Johnson and Deonte Burton. Guessing his college choice didn't hurt his McDAA status

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/recruit_rankings_2013.html

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Meeks was ranked 68th but was a McDonald's All American?

The "blue blood bump"

[Lennys Tap]

Biggest problem for Luke was that he looked like Kareem his first game or two. Unfair expectations = future disappointment. Luke was pretty solid, just not as good as we hoped/thought he would be.

[MU82]

Biggest problem for Luke was that he looked like Kareem his first game or two. Unfair expectations = future disappointment. Luke was pretty solid, just not as good as we hoped/thought he would be.

Great point, Lenny. Those first couple of games, I was like, "Wow! This guy is a stud!" He went on to have a decent career for a gradually improving program. He wasn't a stud, though. Obviously.

[Herman Cain]

Great point, Lenny. Those first couple of games, I was like, "Wow! This guy is a stud!" He went on to have a decent career for a gradually improving program. He wasn't a stud, though. Obviously.

If an unnamed player was going to grad transfer to MU with the following stat line , everyone  would be  very excited and say we are getting a stud. 
REB   AST   BLK   STL   PTS
5.9   1.2   1.7   0.6   10.9
6.2   1.0   1.4   0.5   12.1
4.8   0.9   2.2   0.5   11.0

Luke was a good college basketball player . If one recruit a year could be guaranteed to be as good as Luke, over time we would have a very strong team.

[Herman Cain]

Katin getting workout with the Bucks.
http://www.brewhoop.com/2017/5/5/15558112/marquttes-katin-reinhardt-attending-milwaukee-bucks-day-2-draft-workouts

[MU82]

If an unnamed player was going to grad transfer to MU with the following stat line , everyone  would be  very excited and say we are getting a stud. 
REB   AST   BLK   STL   PTS
5.9   1.2   1.7   0.6   10.9
6.2   1.0   1.4   0.5   12.1
4.8   0.9   2.2   0.5   11.0

Luke was a good college basketball player . If one recruit a year could be guaranteed to be as good as Luke, over time we would have a very strong team.

I would not be part of "everyone." I would look at those numbers and say, "Sounds like a good player. Let's get him." 5-6 rebounds for a 7-footer would not jump out as "studly" figures for me.

I am not a Luke basher. In fact, I am a Luke-basher basher! But one of my (few) strengths is that I'm a realist. Luke was a mostly decent, sometimes very good, sometimes frustrating player for the Warriors. I'm glad we had him. He was often productive, he helped our program get back to where it should be, and he seems like a fine young man.

DW, Jae and Jimmy were studs. Maybe even Robert Jackson could be described with that word. Probably Henry and Lazar. Wes as a senior. A few others of recent vintage.

Glad we had Luke, but he wasn't a stud.

[#UnleashSean]

I would not be part of "everyone." I would look at those numbers and say, "Sounds like a good player. Let's get him." 5-6 rebounds for a 7-footer would not jump out as "studly" figures for me.

I am not a Luke basher. In fact, I am a Luke-basher basher! But one of my (few) strengths is that I'm a realist. Luke was a mostly decent, sometimes very good, sometimes frustrating player for the Warriors. I'm glad we had him. He was often productive, he helped our program get back to where it should be, and he seems like a fine young man.

DW, Jae and Jimmy were studs. Maybe even Robert Jackson could be described with that word. Probably Henry and Lazar. Wes as a senior. A few others of recent vintage.


Glad we had Luke, but he wasn't a stud.

Had he been here while Marquette was successful, he might have had a better legacy, but, that didn't happen.

[naginiF]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596

Congrats to JJJ on this.  Nice to see - hopefully he won't need it for a few years.

[wadesworld]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596

Congrats to JJJ on this.  Nice to see - hopefully he won't need it for a few years.

Outstanding.

[WarriorFan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596

Congrats to JJJ on this.  Nice to see - hopefully he won't need it for a few years.

THIS is what we should really be celebrating.  When these kids graduate, it's a testimonial to a good program, a solid academic system and the priorities being in the right place. 

[naginiF]

THIS is what we should really be celebrating.  When these kids graduate, it's a testimonial to a good program, a solid academic system and the priorities being in the right place.

Speaking of which.....this years APR for the men's team was 966 (Matt V. tweet link https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862365307104624641).

My very quick search didn't yield the year-by-year trend but a) as Matt V points out, 966 is the highest since '11, and b) the multi year rate is 918.  I'm assuming (hopeful?) that this represents steady progress and not a blip - but, like actual coaching, probably have to wait 5 years to really judge.

[cheebs09]

Speaking of which.....this years APR for the men's team was 966 (Matt V. tweet link https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862365307104624641).

My very quick search didn't yield the year-by-year trend but a) as Matt V points out, 966 is the highest since '11, and b) the multi year rate is 918.  I'm assuming (hopeful?) that this represents steady progress and not a blip - but, like actual coaching, probably have to wait 5 years to really judge.

918 is the multi-year rate in 04/05. 966 is the current multi-year rate. We had a dip at the end of Buzz's tenure, but we weren't very close to the 930 mark that would make us ineligible for postseason play. It looks like we are trending in the right direction with Wojo.

[naginiF]

918 is the multi-year rate in 04/05. 966 is the current multi-year rate. We had a dip at the end of Buzz's tenure, but we weren't very close to the 930 mark that would make us ineligible for postseason play. It looks like we are trending in the right direction with Wojo.

Thanks for the clarification.

Found our multi yr going back to '04
http://web1.ncaa.org/maps/aprRelease.jsp

[Jay Bee]

Speaking of which.....this years APR for the men's team was 966 (Matt V. tweet link https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862365307104624641).

My very quick search didn't yield the year-by-year trend but a) as Matt V points out, 966 is the highest since '11, and b) the multi year rate is 918.  I'm assuming (hopeful?) that this represents steady progress and not a blip - but, like actual coaching, probably have to wait 5 years to really judge.

False

#mubb's 1yr APR falls to 957 (974 in 2014-15), but 4 yr up to 966 bc poor 2011-12 (941) fell off

PS-Minnesota is in an unenviable position

[warriorchick]

False

#mubb's 1yr APR falls to 957 (974 in 2014-15), but 4 yr up to 966 bc poor 2011-12 (941) fell off

PS-Minnesota is in an unenviable position

Another Buzz legacy we had to overcome.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Another Buzz legacy we had to overcome.

Yeah too bad for Lazar, Dwight, Jae and Vander,

[jsglow]

THIS is what we should really be celebrating.  When these kids graduate, it's a testimonial to a good program, a solid academic system and the priorities being in the right place.

Super happy for JjJ. Used his basketball skills to earn an excellent college degree.  That'll make a big difference for his kids and grandkids some day.  And that's what it's really all about.

[The Lens]

Another Buzz legacy we had to overcome.

Buzz is a numbers guys.  He knew what he needed.  We would have never gone below 930. 

 

[jsglow]

Yeah too bad for Lazar, Dwight, Jae and Vander,

While true, it is fair to say that MU's senior leadership certainly didn't like the academic trend-line.  And they had every right to place restrictions/expectations on the program to reverse that.  I suppose this circles all the way back to the 'Jae discussion' that we don't need to repeat.  Different folks (including Buzz) saw it differently.  But the only thing that mattered was how Zilber saw it.

[Bocephys]

Buzz is a numbers guys.  He knew what he needed.  We would have never gone below 930. 

He would have flirted with 930 so much that Corey would be asking to check his phone at night.

[Galway Eagle]

Yeah too bad for Lazar, Dwight, Jae and Vander,

Did Zar not graduate?

[#UnleashSean]

Another Buzz legacy we had to overcome.

It's almost like his players were seeing a future in basketball and not "insert easy degree"