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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Herman Cain on April 04, 2017, 06:50:03 PM
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This thread is chronicling the efforts of JJJ, Luke and Katin Reinhardt as they try to play at the next level.
JJJ is clearly working on shoring up his mid range game.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSXSgmCAYJSFBQp9j5-SfIorFnclYtuLt8Z2JA0/
I think Katin has gone back to California and is working out.
https://twitter.com/5SWISH/status/846885694643453952
Luke is probably deciding what the appetizers will be at his wedding. After being in the 54-60 range all last year on the mock drafts he has fallen out.
In the meantime the field for the Portsmouth Invitational will be announced April 10th. I think it would be a stretch for any of our guys to make the NBA combine.
https://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/
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Luke has already been invited to Portsmouth
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Luke has already been invited to Portsmouth
Yep, it was announced a while ago. Unfortunately, I don't think he has the neck thickness to be NBA material.
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https://marquettewire.org/3969932/sports/fischer-bridges-gap-during-transition-years-for-mubb/
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JJJ to D league, Katin to France, Italy or japan. Fish to eastern europe.
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JJJ to D league, Katin to France, Italy or japan. Fish to eastern europe.
This sounds about right.
But I say that as a guy who was stunned Buycks and Crawford had NBA careers.
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This sounds about right.
But I say that as a guy who was stunned Buycks and Crawford had NBA careers.
JJ2N
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JJ2N
JJ Barea is already in the NBA...
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Fischer to Portsmith will be a disaster, will be worst player there. Hope it doesnt hurt future MU players from getting an invite
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Didn't you already start a former players thread months ago?
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Fischer to Portsmith will be a disaster, will be worst player there. Hope it doesnt hurt future MU players from getting an invite
When do you let go of your Bite.
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Fischer to Portsmith will be a disaster, will be worst player there. Hope it doesnt hurt future MU players from getting an invite
One last chance to kick ole Luke, hey?
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Fischer to Portsmith will be a disaster, will be worst player there. Hope it doesnt hurt future MU players from getting an invite
jerk post
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jerk poster
fixed
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Fischer to Portsmith will be a disaster, will be worst player there. Hope it doesnt hurt future MU players from getting an invite
Trump?
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I think Luke will be playing in the D-league.
I have personally watched Dennis Clifford from Boston College have a very nice D-league season. There was even talked of him being called-up until he injured his ankle.
When you look at Clifford's stats to Luke's they are almost identical (FG pct, FT pct & blocks). The difference, Clifford had more rebounds...but Luke had more points in his 4-year career.
They have identical builds.
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I think Luke will be playing in the D-league.
I have personally watched Dennis Clifford from Boston College have a very nice D-league season. There was even talked of him being called-up until he injured his ankle.
When you look at Clifford's stats to Luke's they are almost identical (FG pct, FT pct & blocks). The difference, Clifford had more rebounds...but Luke had more points in his 4-year career.
They have identical builds.
I think Luke makes good $ in Europe or other international league
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I think Luke makes good $ in Europe or other international league
+1
Considering how Luke's hair game is always on point, he's a virtual lock for Europe.
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Katin will make the most money in the group. Should go straight to a good European team in a good European league. Can shoot / can handle and will play better with Euro style floor spacing.
Luke to D-League, then fade to black after 1-2 years.
JJJ is interesting. Fringe D-League player but more likely to go someplace where guys get paid to play pick-up ball like Philippines, or maybe a 2nd level Euro league.
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I think Luke will be playing in the D-league.
I have personally watched Dennis Clifford from Boston College have a very nice D-league season. There was even talked of him being called-up until he injured his ankle.
When you look at Clifford's stats to Luke's they are almost identical (FG pct, FT pct & blocks). The difference, Clifford had more rebounds...but Luke had more points in his 4-year career.
They have identical builds.
Do they have identical bum shoulders?
Not trying to be mean, but if I was a GM or coach, I would worry about that.
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Fischer won't go for the D league. He will go to a middle of the road euro team and make decentish money. JJJ will go for the low pay d league for the NBA chance.
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Trump?
Please stop, Newsie
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The only leagues left where bigs who can't shoot are welcome are the NBA, the D League, and some really bad overseas leagues. That's why Fischer won't last long as a pro. Not sure what his degree is, but you could make more money delivering newspapers than in the D league.
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Katin will make the most money in the group. Should go straight to a good European team in a good European league. Can shoot / can handle and will play better with Euro style floor spacing.
Luke to D-League, then fade to black after 1-2 years.
JJJ is interesting. Fringe D-League player but more likely to go someplace where guys get paid to play pick-up ball like Philippines, or maybe a 2nd level Euro league.
I tend to agree about Katin. Long Euro career awaits.
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Do they have identical bum shoulders?
Not trying to be mean, but if I was a GM or coach, I would worry about that.
That was my thought regarding d-league. Would a team want to use a spot on him considering his shoulder history.
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Please stop, Newsie
Did sound like him
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Looks like Katin will be attending a prospect camp.
https://twitter.com/ProBBallCombine/status/850409356852027392
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Portsmouth invitational players have been released.
https://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/2017-pit-players
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Portsmouth invitational players have been released.
https://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/2017-pit-players
Deonte and Steve Taylor in addition to Luke.
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The only leagues left where bigs who can't shoot are welcome are the NBA, the D League, and some really bad overseas leagues. That's why Fischer won't last long as a pro. Not sure what his degree is, but you could make more money delivering newspapers than in the D league.
Chris Otule is still playing, was in France last. There's always a place for big guys, shooters or not
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OK, I'll give you that, and I was surprised to find he's in the french A league. I actually rate Otule higher than Fischer however. Better positioning, smarter player, stronger even if not as athletic.
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Chris Otule is still playing, was in France last. There's always a place for big guys, shooters or not
No
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OK, I'll give you that, and I was surprised to find he's in the french A league. I actually rate Otule higher than Fischer however. Better positioning, smarter player, stronger even if not as athletic.
I would agree
Otule can at least play defense n be tough in the paint. Luke does nothing well. Call me a hater, but i cannot see him helping anything but the lowest of liw orofessional teams, if any at all.
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I would agree
Otule can at least play defense n be tough in the paint. Luke does nothing well. Call me a hater, but i cannot see him helping anything but the lowest of liw orofessional teams, if any at all.
Thanks for your input. Time to move on.
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if Luke chooses to he could have a 10+ year career playing pro ball overseas, probably earning 6 figures a season.
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Chris Otule is still playing, was in France last. There's always a place for big guys, shooters or not
When: Where:
2008 - 2014 Marquette (NCAA)
July 2014 - August 2014 Mersin (Turkey)
August 2014 - June 2015 Crailsheim (Germany)
June 2015 - June 2016 MBC (Germany)
August 2016 - present Antibes (France)
this is a pretty good sight to follow where players are:
http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/playerProfiles/profileIndex.jsp
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if Luke chooses to he could have a 10+ year career playing pro ball overseas, probably earning 6 figures a season.
Not even close to accurate, watch what happens in Portsmouth
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Not even close to accurate, watch what happens in Portsmouth
You're wrong. Dwight Burke has had a good career in Europe. Luke can too. Doesn't matter what happens in Portsmouth.
Go look at the list of guys who have had long, successful European careers. It's filled with players far worse than Luke
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You're wrong. Dwight Burke has had a good career in Europe. Luke can too. Doesn't matter what happens in Portsmouth.
Go look at the list of guys who have had long, successful European careers. It's filled with players far worse than Luke
matter of fact, Burke is still playing
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Not even close to accurate, watch what happens in Portsmouth
You have no clue about international basketball
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Not even close to accurate, watch what happens in Portsmouth
To be clear...you are stating you know more than those that handle invitations to Ports mouth, correct?
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You have no clue about international basketball
Is this coming from the expert?
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Sand Knit = Ners
Luke = Derrick Wilson
Whatever happened to Ners, anyway? ::)
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Sand Knit = Ners
Luke = Derrick Wilson
Whatever happened to Ners, anyway? ::)
He's been back on and off. Also intermittent poster on Dodds' board, when he's not banned, at least.
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Is this coming from the expert?
No, is coming from someone who lives where international pro basketball is played.
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You have no clue about international basketball
Fixed it for you.
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Luke does nothing well.
Except totally dominate future NBAer Justin Patton in helping the Warriors get one of their most important wins of the season.
Yeah ... tell us again that didn't count because Patton was in foul trouble ... without saying who got him in foul trouble.
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Luke was 2nd in the Big East in FG% and 3rd in blocks. What a stiff!
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Luke was 2nd in the Big East in FG% and 3rd in blocks. What a stiff!
Only easy blocks....
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Like the pied piper the true experts come out.
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20 pts, 5 boards, 3 blocks for Luke in his first Portsmouth game.
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20 pts, 5 boards, 3 blocks for Luke in his first Portsmouth game.
Thiis couldn't possibly make me happier.
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20 pts, 5 boards, 3 blocks for Luke in his first Portsmouth game.
Please breakdown for us how many of those points were "only putbacks", how many of the boards were "easy rebounds", and how many of the blocks were "just a shorter guy running into him."
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Please breakdown for us how many of those points were "only putbacks", how many of the boards were "easy rebounds", and how many of the blocks were "just a shorter guy running into him."
Same hairstyle or new hairstyle? Did it make him look soft?
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Portsmouth boxscore: https://media.wix.com/ugd/9dbc28_1717c48c0f1f4001b77ed2e8bf8776de.pdf
note: Fischer had only 1 assist. Obviously a ball hogging black hole.
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Portsmouth boxscore: https://media.wix.com/ugd/9dbc28_1717c48c0f1f4001b77ed2e8bf8776de.pdf
note: Fischer had only 1 assist. Obviously a ball hogging black hole.
Was this a complex or basic assist?
REAL STATS PEOPLE!
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Tim Kempton? wtf? He's like 50 years old, if not older.
What are the chances of that Domer carrot top hack spawning potential NBA talent.
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note: Fischer had only 1 assist. Obviously a ball hogging black hole.
So NBA caliber then. At least for the all-star game.
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Why are we throwing around flashy things like stats to make what is clearly a horrendous basketball player look good? Sand Knit told us he sucked, so he obviously sucks even if you want to throw around meaningless flash statistics.
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Alternative facts. I am glad that Luke represented in his first game. I don't think he is NBA ready, but if he were to get both shoulders healthy I think he could eventually, after a couple of years either in Europe or in the D-league, be a fringe NBA player.
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Tim Kempton? wtf? He's like 50 years old, if not older.
What are the chances of that Domer carrot top hack spawning potential NBA talent.
The kid isn't bad. 2000 points and 1000 rebounds in his career at Lehigh.
Kempton Sr bounced around between end of the bench NBAer and Italy/France until he was 34.
There are potential long careers out there for bigs if they don't mind the life of floating from city to city every year.
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Watching the live streaming. Luke looking very solid.
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Most of us would expect and accept that.
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Watching the live streaming. Luke looking very solid.
Trolling MSK
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MSK is a party of one. Entitled to his opinion but demonstrably wrong. Luke certainly isn't perfect, but he didn't stink.
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Was this a complex or basic assist?
REAL STATS PEOPLE!
Yeah, like what was his neck measurement?
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Luke had 12.7 and 5.0 rob and 1.7 blocked shots at Portsmouth. 30th in scoring and 27th in rebounds and 4th in blocked shotsout of 64 players. ST Jr had 10.7 and 10 boards( which was 2nd). Deonte Burton had 14.7 (14th) and 2.7 boards and 2.0 blocked shots (1st) and 1.7 steals (9th)
Luke was also measured at 6-10.5 with shoes 236 7-1 1/2 wingspan with 27 vertical . No neck measurments available.
Deonte 6-4.8 with shoes 266 pounds 6-11.5 wing span 29.5 vertical
No measurement stats for ST jr
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Luke had 12.7 and 5.0 rob and 1.7 blocked shots at Portsmouth. 30th in scoring and 27th in rebounds and 4th in blocked shotsout of 64 players. ST Jr had 10.7 and 10 boards( which was 2nd). Deonte Burton had 14.7 (14th) and 2.7 boards and 2.0 blocked shots (1st) and 1.7 steals (9th)
Luke was also measured at 6-10.5 with shoes 236 7-1 1/2 wingspan with 27 vertical . No neck measurments available.
Deonte 6-4.8 with shoes 266 pounds 6-11.5 wing span 29.5 vertical
No measurement stats for ST jr
Interesting. I was expecting Burton's vertical to be more than 2.5 inches higher than Luke's.
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KR works out with the Bucks -
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2017/05/05/mus-reinhardt-part-fridays-bucks-workout/101304018/ (http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2017/05/05/mus-reinhardt-part-fridays-bucks-workout/101304018/)
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I would agree
Otule can at least play defense n be tough in the paint. Luke does nothing well. Call me a hater, but i cannot see him helping anything but the lowest of liw orofessional teams, if any at all.
The all-time MU leader in FG% isn't good enough. He only gets the easy shots...
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Can you all stop this passive aggressive crap like your in highschool? Didn't you all graduate from marquette? Not MPS?
Was Fischer a bad player? Absolutely not. Did he have his draw backs? Hell yes. Let's face facts. Fischer was a decent center for us. He had huge trouble not making idiotic fouls and decisions. He never lived up to what he was touted to be. Granted that was an incredibly high standard and many others have failed that same goal.
Fischer will go down as a decent center for marquette. He will be mentioned a few times by the old timers in 20 years with the youngings saying ''who''. He may have a decent length career in Europe. But let's be honest, he never was the impact player we hoped he would be when he transfered. There's no shame in that. Remember Fulce?
So get over your stupid back handed comments at each other and just be honest.
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Can you all stop this passive aggressive crap like your in highschool? Didn't you all graduate from marquette? Not MPS?
What if you graduated from both?
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What if you graduated from both?
Well.... It was like 2am. Shhh.
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Interesting. I was expecting Burton's vertical to be more than 2.5 inches higher than Luke's.
My guess is Deonte is explosive off of one foot but not a great standing leaper. 29 is very average, which is probably why he can't rebound. Well that and effort.
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Here are the 8 centers ranked between 60 and 100 by Scout in 2013:
60. BeeJay Anya
68. Kennedy Meeks
69. Karviar Shepherd
70. Jimmie Taylor
79. Luke Fischer
91. Kyle Washington
93. Mark Donnal
98. Dominic Woodson
Kennedy Meeks (68) had the best college career of the 8. Luke Fisher (79) has had the second best. Kyle Washington could surpass him.
Luke Fischer wasn't stellar, but he certainly wasn't bad.
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My guess is Deonte is explosive off of one foot but not a great standing leaper. 29 is very average, which is probably why he can't rebound. Well that and effort.
He had an 18.6% DR% as a senior, at 6'5". There was only one other 6'5" or shorter high major player that had that good of a defensive rebounding percentage (Bonzie Colson).
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Meeks was ranked 68th but was a McDonald's All American?
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Meeks was ranked 68th but was a McDonald's All American?
Yes, and his RSCI numbers weren't much better. 56 was his composite ranking, lower than both Jajuan Johnson and Deonte Burton. Guessing his college choice didn't hurt his McDAA status
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/recruit_rankings_2013.html
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Meeks was ranked 68th but was a McDonald's All American?
The "blue blood bump"
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Biggest problem for Luke was that he looked like Kareem his first game or two. Unfair expectations = future disappointment. Luke was pretty solid, just not as good as we hoped/thought he would be.
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Biggest problem for Luke was that he looked like Kareem his first game or two. Unfair expectations = future disappointment. Luke was pretty solid, just not as good as we hoped/thought he would be.
Great point, Lenny. Those first couple of games, I was like, "Wow! This guy is a stud!" He went on to have a decent career for a gradually improving program. He wasn't a stud, though. Obviously.
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Great point, Lenny. Those first couple of games, I was like, "Wow! This guy is a stud!" He went on to have a decent career for a gradually improving program. He wasn't a stud, though. Obviously.
If an unnamed player was going to grad transfer to MU with the following stat line , everyone would be very excited and say we are getting a stud.
REB AST BLK STL PTS
5.9 1.2 1.7 0.6 10.9
6.2 1.0 1.4 0.5 12.1
4.8 0.9 2.2 0.5 11.0
Luke was a good college basketball player . If one recruit a year could be guaranteed to be as good as Luke, over time we would have a very strong team.
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Katin getting workout with the Bucks.
http://www.brewhoop.com/2017/5/5/15558112/marquttes-katin-reinhardt-attending-milwaukee-bucks-day-2-draft-workouts
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If an unnamed player was going to grad transfer to MU with the following stat line , everyone would be very excited and say we are getting a stud.
REB AST BLK STL PTS
5.9 1.2 1.7 0.6 10.9
6.2 1.0 1.4 0.5 12.1
4.8 0.9 2.2 0.5 11.0
Luke was a good college basketball player . If one recruit a year could be guaranteed to be as good as Luke, over time we would have a very strong team.
I would not be part of "everyone." I would look at those numbers and say, "Sounds like a good player. Let's get him." 5-6 rebounds for a 7-footer would not jump out as "studly" figures for me.
I am not a Luke basher. In fact, I am a Luke-basher basher! But one of my (few) strengths is that I'm a realist. Luke was a mostly decent, sometimes very good, sometimes frustrating player for the Warriors. I'm glad we had him. He was often productive, he helped our program get back to where it should be, and he seems like a fine young man.
DW, Jae and Jimmy were studs. Maybe even Robert Jackson could be described with that word. Probably Henry and Lazar. Wes as a senior. A few others of recent vintage.
Glad we had Luke, but he wasn't a stud.
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I would not be part of "everyone." I would look at those numbers and say, "Sounds like a good player. Let's get him." 5-6 rebounds for a 7-footer would not jump out as "studly" figures for me.
I am not a Luke basher. In fact, I am a Luke-basher basher! But one of my (few) strengths is that I'm a realist. Luke was a mostly decent, sometimes very good, sometimes frustrating player for the Warriors. I'm glad we had him. He was often productive, he helped our program get back to where it should be, and he seems like a fine young man.
DW, Jae and Jimmy were studs. Maybe even Robert Jackson could be described with that word. Probably Henry and Lazar. Wes as a senior. A few others of recent vintage.
Glad we had Luke, but he wasn't a stud.
Had he been here while Marquette was successful, he might have had a better legacy, but, that didn't happen.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596)
Congrats to JJJ on this. Nice to see - hopefully he won't need it for a few years.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596)
Congrats to JJJ on this. Nice to see - hopefully he won't need it for a few years.
Outstanding.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596)
Congrats to JJJ on this. Nice to see - hopefully he won't need it for a few years.
THIS is what we should really be celebrating. When these kids graduate, it's a testimonial to a good program, a solid academic system and the priorities being in the right place.
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THIS is what we should really be celebrating. When these kids graduate, it's a testimonial to a good program, a solid academic system and the priorities being in the right place.
Speaking of which.....this years APR for the men's team was 966 (Matt V. tweet link https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862365307104624641 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862365307104624641)).
My very quick search didn't yield the year-by-year trend but a) as Matt V points out, 966 is the highest since '11, and b) the multi year rate is 918. I'm assuming (hopeful?) that this represents steady progress and not a blip - but, like actual coaching, probably have to wait 5 years to really judge.
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Speaking of which.....this years APR for the men's team was 966 (Matt V. tweet link https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862365307104624641 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862365307104624641)).
My very quick search didn't yield the year-by-year trend but a) as Matt V points out, 966 is the highest since '11, and b) the multi year rate is 918. I'm assuming (hopeful?) that this represents steady progress and not a blip - but, like actual coaching, probably have to wait 5 years to really judge.
918 is the multi-year rate in 04/05. 966 is the current multi-year rate. We had a dip at the end of Buzz's tenure, but we weren't very close to the 930 mark that would make us ineligible for postseason play. It looks like we are trending in the right direction with Wojo.
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918 is the multi-year rate in 04/05. 966 is the current multi-year rate. We had a dip at the end of Buzz's tenure, but we weren't very close to the 930 mark that would make us ineligible for postseason play. It looks like we are trending in the right direction with Wojo.
Thanks for the clarification.
Found our multi yr going back to '04
http://web1.ncaa.org/maps/aprRelease.jsp (http://web1.ncaa.org/maps/aprRelease.jsp)
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Speaking of which.....this years APR for the men's team was 966 (Matt V. tweet link https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862365307104624641 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862365307104624641)).
My very quick search didn't yield the year-by-year trend but a) as Matt V points out, 966 is the highest since '11, and b) the multi year rate is 918. I'm assuming (hopeful?) that this represents steady progress and not a blip - but, like actual coaching, probably have to wait 5 years to really judge.
False
#mubb's 1yr APR falls to 957 (974 in 2014-15), but 4 yr up to 966 bc poor 2011-12 (941) fell off
PS-Minnesota is in an unenviable position
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False
#mubb's 1yr APR falls to 957 (974 in 2014-15), but 4 yr up to 966 bc poor 2011-12 (941) fell off
PS-Minnesota is in an unenviable position
Another Buzz legacy we had to overcome.
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Another Buzz legacy we had to overcome.
Yeah too bad for Lazar, Dwight, Jae and Vander,
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THIS is what we should really be celebrating. When these kids graduate, it's a testimonial to a good program, a solid academic system and the priorities being in the right place.
Super happy for JjJ. Used his basketball skills to earn an excellent college degree. That'll make a big difference for his kids and grandkids some day. And that's what it's really all about.
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Another Buzz legacy we had to overcome.
Buzz is a numbers guys. He knew what he needed. We would have never gone below 930.
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Yeah too bad for Lazar, Dwight, Jae and Vander,
While true, it is fair to say that MU's senior leadership certainly didn't like the academic trend-line. And they had every right to place restrictions/expectations on the program to reverse that. I suppose this circles all the way back to the 'Jae discussion' that we don't need to repeat. Different folks (including Buzz) saw it differently. But the only thing that mattered was how Zilber saw it.
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Buzz is a numbers guys. He knew what he needed. We would have never gone below 930.
He would have flirted with 930 so much that Corey would be asking to check his phone at night.
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Yeah too bad for Lazar, Dwight, Jae and Vander,
Did Zar not graduate?
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Another Buzz legacy we had to overcome.
It's almost like his players were seeing a future in basketball and not "insert easy degree"
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Buzz is a numbers guys. He knew what he needed. We would have never gone below 930.
Exactly.
I'd rather be #10 in the AP and #100 in the APR than the other way around.
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Did Zar not graduate?
No
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It's almost like his players were seeing a future in basketball and not "insert easy degree"
MU players only get the easy degrees
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No
Yeah butt, I taught he holds a degree in Transuniversal Multigenerational Communication, ai na?
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Buzz is a numbers guys. He knew what he needed. We would have never gone below 930.
"I don’t care about the numbers. I care about the clauses."
-- Brent Williams
Apparently, he's either big on Christmas or sentence diagramming.
But per his own statement, wouldn't be seen dead with any numbers.
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Yeah sure, 'cuz money talks and bullchit walks, ai na?
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/862141066362990596)
Congrats to JJJ on this. Nice to see - hopefully he won't need it for a few years.
Tremendous work by this tremendous young man. He will represent MU well in all his future endeavors. Very proud of him for hanging in there and becoming the first in his family to get a college degree.
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Tremendous work by this tremendous young man. He will represent MU well in all his future endeavors. Very proud of him for hanging in there and becoming the first in his family to get a college degree.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/a3HwA77QREoo/giphy.gif)
Anyone know how to post a gif in teal?
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Tremendous work by this tremendous young man. He will represent MU well in all his future endeavors. Very proud of him for hanging in there and becoming the first in his family to get a college degree.
Hanging in there is right. I wish I had a buck for every chucklehead comment on Scoop about JJJ's imminent transfer!
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Hanging in there is right. I wish I had a buck for every chucklehead comment on Scoop about JJJ's imminent transfer!
Come to think of it, Scoop's record on predicting transfers is awful. Wrong on the predicted ones and wrong on missing the ones that eventually did.
I should start taking odds on these predictions.
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Come.to think of it, Scoop's record on predicting transfers is awful. Wrong on the predicted.ones and wrong on missing the ones that eventually did.
I should start taking odds on these predictions.
Book 'em, Dano!
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Book 'em, Dano!
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No
So, that's a yes then?
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Bumping for graduation day (?) Wojo tweet
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866017294006321153 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866017294006321153)
Congrats to these three
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Bumping for graduation day (?) Wojo tweet
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866017294006321153 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/866017294006321153)
Congrats to these three
They are all playing mind games, hey?
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Mini twitter write up on JJJ
https://mobile.twitter.com/KaiserLindeman/status/875064266981879808
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Mini twitter write up on JJJ
https://mobile.twitter.com/KaiserLindeman/status/875064266981879808
Is he just quoting scoop, or is this an independent observation?
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Mini twitter write up on JJJ
https://mobile.twitter.com/KaiserLindeman/status/875064266981879808
Yep
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http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/19638855/ranking-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-top-prospects-2017-nba-draft-statistical-projections-kevin-pelton Complete Rankings
JJJ 85
Luke 99
Katin 124
Deonte Burton 108
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http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/19638855/ranking-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-top-prospects-2017-nba-draft-statistical-projections-kevin-pelton Complete Rankings
JJJ 85
Luke 99
Katin 124
Deonte Burton 108
Those are pretty good ratings. They will all find some good foreign opportunities and possibly D League.
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My dad said that if JJJ, Fish or KR gets drafted then he'll get tickets for Maui
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Yo dad's a reel gambler, hey?
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My dad said that if JJJ, Fish or KR gets drafted then he'll get tickets for Maui
Rip your trip.
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Rip your trip.
I tried, I thought Fish had a chance of getting drafted. Was looking at some mock drafts few days before the draft and some had him going but like last 10 picks
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I tried, I thought Fish had a chance of getting drafted. Was looking at some mock drafts few days before the draft and some had him going but like last 10 picks
They had a nice bowl before they wrote that.
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Him getting drafted was a pipe dream at best. But Luke put up pretty good numbers at Portsmouth. He's not NBA material but his numbers backed up the fact that he was one of the top offensive seniors in college basketball last season. He was arguably the best true center we have had since Rob Jackson.
I don't think it's arguable at all. Who's even in the conversation, Otule? Burke? Merritt, maybe?
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I don't think it's arguable at all. Who's even in the conversation, Otule? Burke? Merritt, maybe?
Well I think that too. But the guy I'm talking to would argue that he wasn't even the best true center on last year's team!
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I don't think it's arguable at all. Who's even in the conversation, Otule? Burke? Merritt, maybe?
Luke had one good game at Portsmouth. Other games were bad.
And yes with our scoring punch last year, we were a better team with Heldt who could play a shred or defense n fight for rebounding position. At least Wojo agreed with me.
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Luke had one good game at Portsmouth.
Okay, I think we've tried every "nice" way of saying it. You're an idiot. You have no ability to objectively watch a player and judge their contributions. You became blinded to Luke. I don't know, maybe it's jealousy, maybe it's a need to tear others down to make yourself feel good, maybe he stole your girlfriend. But bottom line, your are simply wrong in your assessments of Luke and your blatant stupidity shines through like a blazing orange light of mental mediocrity every time you mention him.
Luke went 105.2/115.4/124.5 ORtg in his three years here. He increased his efficiency every year while also increasing his usage. His worst season in terms of eFG% was better than Davante Gardner's best. He was at worst 11th in the Big East in block percentage, and 2/3 years was top-5.
Was Luke an all-American or superstar? No. Were there some centers in his time better in the league? Sure. But not many, and he's the best we've had other than a one year transfer in over a generation. And frankly, if you look at the numbers and totality of contributions on both ends of the floor, it's not even remotely debatable.
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Luke had one good game at Portsmouth. Other games were bad.
And yes with our scoring punch last year, we were a better team with Heldt who could play a shred or defense n fight for rebounding position. At least Wojo agreed with me.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/WUyH9gM8FFzxK/giphy.gif)
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Okay, I think we've tried every "nice" way of saying it. You're an idiot. You have no ability to objectively watch a player and judge their contributions. You became blinded to Luke. I don't know, maybe it's jealousy, maybe it's a need to tear others down to make yourself feel good, maybe he stole your girlfriend. But bottom line, your are simply wrong in your assessments of Luke and your blatant stupidity shines through like a blazing orange light of mental mediocrity every time you mention him.
Luke went 105.2/115.4/124.5 ORtg in his three years here. He increased his efficiency every year while also increasing his usage. His worst season in terms of eFG% was better than Davante Gardner's best. He was at worst 11th in the Big East in block percentage, and 2/3 years was top-5.
Was Luke an all-American or superstar? No. Were there some centers in his time better in the league? Sure. But not many, and he's the best we've had other than a one year transfer in over a generation. And frankly, if you look at the numbers and totality of contributions on both ends of the floor, it's not even remotely debatable.
Interesting that all the things that you say about me can be said about you as it pertains to his offensive numbers. Your offense only focus is scary. You are prolly a really good fantasy player, however, some of us realize that defense is half of the game and that defense wins championships. You will also notice my post pertained to defense and how MUs season turned on a dime when Wojo realized we needed some in the middle. Keep referencing ur efg tho
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Blocks are an offensive stat? Maybe I was giving you too much intellectual credit :o
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Luke's defense was atrocious. He had decent blocking numbers but his ppp allowed was terrible. Making an argument that Heldt was a better fit for last year's team, I could hear that argument. That is very different from the months of Luke bashing that we heard. Heldt's defensive numbers were better than Luke's but not by nearly enough to make up for the huge discrepancy in their offensive statistics.
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Luke's defense was atrocious. He had decent blocking numbers but his ppp allowed was terrible. Making an argument that Heldt was a better fit for last year's team, I could hear that argument. That is very different from the months of Luke bashing that we heard. Heldt's defensive numbers were better than Luke's but not by nearly enough to make up for the huge discrepancy in their offensive statistics.
Could you do a breakdown of his sophomore year defense?
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I don't know why you are all still arguing about this. The team played better with heldt. That is something I don't think is really that debatable. Fischer had better offense stats. But I think heldt moved in the offense better.
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I don't know why you are all still arguing about this. The team played better with heldt. That is something I don't think is really that debatable. Fischer had better offense stats. But I think heldt moved in the offense better.
It's debatable and you will admit you were wrong
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I don't know why you are all still arguing about this. The team played better with heldt. That is something I don't think is really that debatable. Fischer had better offense stats. But I think heldt moved in the offense better.
I think the offense seemed to run better when Heldt was inserted into the starting lineup because it was the first time we were seeing our 2 best offensive players on the court together for significant periods of time. I think it had much, much, much less to do with Matt being in in place of Luke and much, much, much more to do with Rowsey being in in place of Cheatham.
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I think the offense seemed to run better when Heldt was inserted into the starting lineup because it was the first time we were seeing our 2 best offensive players on the court together for significant periods of time. I think it had much, much, much less to do with Matt being in in place of Luke and much, much, much more to do with Rowsey being in in place of Cheatham.
That could be true. But since heldt started playing real meaningful minutes at the same time I'm not sure we will ever know. Unless someone can get the +/- and efficiency of both Fischer and heldt while both Rowsey and Howard are on the court at the same time.
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Luke's defense was atrocious. He had decent blocking numbers but his ppp allowed was terrible. Making an argument that Heldt was a better fit for last year's team, I could hear that argument. That is very different from the months of Luke bashing that we heard. Heldt's defensive numbers were better than Luke's but not by nearly enough to make up for the huge discrepancy in their offensive statistics.
See thats where focusing only on stats runs some if you guys afoul. Sure matts offense didnt match lukes, while matts defense n rebounding position was superior.
Matt didnt need to provide the touches could go elsewhere, we had other guys that could score in volumes. What we needed filled was the gaping hole in the middle. Wojo did that, i clamored for it for the whole year. The guys that subtracted matts scoring average from lukes and said we were ten points worse a game, well Brew and others are still saying that. SMH
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I think the offense seemed to run better when Heldt was inserted into the starting lineup because it was the first time we were seeing our 2 best offensive players on the court together for significant periods of time. I think it had much, much, much less to do with Matt being in in place of Luke and much, much, much more to do with Rowsey being in in place of Cheatham.
Had a lot to do with the worst division 1 center defensively was not in the game
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See thats where focusing only on stats runs some if you guys afoul. Sure matts offense didnt match lukes, while matts defense n rebounding position was superior.
Matt didnt need to provide the touches could go elsewhere, we had other guys that could score in volumes. What we needed filled was the gaping hole in the middle. Wojo did that, i clamored for it for the whole year. The guys that subtracted matts scoring average from lukes and said we were ten points worse a game, well Brew and others are still saying that. SMH
Here's where you run afoul. You didn't clamor for Heldt all year. You bashed Luke all year. There's a difference. That's what people are reacting to. If you had said "I think Heldt would be better for this team than Luke because of his defense." That would have been reasonable. Instead you went on rants about how Luke was garbage when that wasn't the case.
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Here's where you run afoul. You didn't clamor for Heldt all year. You bashed Luke all year. There's a difference. That's what people are reacting to. If you had said "I think Heldt would be better for this team than Luke because of his defense." That would have been reasonable. Instead you went on rants about how Luke was garbage when that wasn't the case.
Bingo.
But why do you keep feeding this troll?
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Luke should enjoy Spain
https://twitter.com/bigfishy40/status/883788821158146050
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Luke should enjoy Spain
https://twitter.com/bigfishy40/status/883788821158146050
The Canary Islands? Very nice.
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Luke should enjoy Spain
https://twitter.com/bigfishy40/status/883788821158146050
Buen suerte, Pescado Grande.
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The Canary Islands? Very nice.
Nice Landing Spot.
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Duz he get payd in bird seed, hey?
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Duz he get payd in bird seed, hey?
BETar den man seed ainul?
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Matt played half as many minutes as Luke for a reason. Actually, a whole lot of reasons.
For all of Luke's limitations, he was simply the more productive player last season — pretty much any way you look at it. He wasn't just an effective scorer. Luke also had the higher offensive and defensive rebounding percentage, assist rate, block rate and steal percentage. Oh yeah, and the lower turnover rate.
Matt showed clear improvement at the end of conference play. In a 6-game stretch from February 18th to March 9th, he averaged 21.8 mpg, 5.0 ppg, 6.2 rpg and 1.0 bpg — while shooting 13-16 (81.3%) and turning the ball over a grand total of twice.
That's pretty good. But it's also only 6 games out of a 32-game schedule. The other 26 games he averaged just 11.0 mpg, 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg and 0.3 bpg. Not much of a contribution. And not good enough for next year.
We don't need Matt to be an offensive force to win. Rebounding and tough defense will go a long way. I think he'll come into this season with more confidence and a higher skill level. But he still has to prove Wojo can count on him for significant minutes, game after game.
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Matt is just not coordinated enough to not get into foul trouble, I see maybe no more than 15 to 20 minutes a game at best. John will play the other 20 until
Harry shows his face on the court. At that time, they can play big a little. I see Eke getting a few minutes during that time as well. It will be very interesting the
following year on playing time upfront. Add Morrow and hopefully someone else.
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Matt played half as many minutes as Luke for a reason. Actually, a whole lot of reasons.
For all of Luke's limitations, he was simply the more productive player last season — pretty much any way you look at it. He wasn't just an effective scorer. Luke also had the higher offensive and defensive rebounding percentage, assist rate, block rate and steal percentage. Oh yeah, and the lower turnover rate.
Matt showed clear improvement at the end of conference play. In a 6-game stretch from February 18th to March 9th, he averaged 21.8 mpg, 5.0 ppg, 6.2 rpg and 1.0 bpg — while shooting 13-16 (81.3%) and turning the ball over a grand total of twice.
That's pretty good. But it's also only 6 games out of a 32-game schedule. The other 26 games he averaged just 11.0 mpg, 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg and 0.3 bpg. Not much of a contribution. And not good enough for next year.
We don't need Matt to be an offensive force to win. Rebounding and tough defense will go a long way. I think he'll come into this season with more confidence and a higher skill level. But he still has to prove Wojo can count on him for significant minutes, game after game.
Could you give me the stat lines from when Matt took the starting spot? Cause that's truly when the two of them started playing almost equal amounts.
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Could you give me the stat lines from when Matt took the starting spot? Cause that's truly when the two of them started playing almost equal amounts.
Matt stepped into the starting lineup for the February 18th game against Xavier. That was the first game of the 6-game stretch mentioned above.
Marquette went 4-2 in those games — including wins against Xavier (twice) and Creighton. After that, Matt also started against South Carolina in the NCAA tournament. He was more-or-less invisible: 14 minutes, 0 points, 3 rebounds and 2 turnovers.
Luke was the starter for MU's wins against 4 NCAA tournament teams: Vanderbilt, Seton Hall, Creighton and Villanova.
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John will play the other 20 until Harry shows his face on the court. At that time, they can play big a little. I see Eke getting a few minutes during that time as well.
Expecting Theo to play 20 minutes a game feels like asking a lot of a freshman big. Back on signing day last November, Wojo said:
"Theo has a college-ready body now...I think he can defend and rebound at the college level right now and his offense will continue to catch up with him."
Does that mean he's ready to play 10 mpg, 15 mpg or 20+ mpg? The strength is there. But I have no idea where Theo stands skill-wise compared to Matt. Wojo's comments about Eke at the time were even more intriguing:
"When you talk about a guy with a motor who is 6-10, long arms and unbelievable agility and mobility, that generally is a recipe for success...He's got better feet than anyone in our program right now...I think his defense and his rebounding and his ability to protect the rim is in front of his offense."
The "better feet" comment stands out to me, considering the importance of hedging and rotating in Wojo's defense. Matt has the size, strength and work ethic — but he's not exactly what I'd call quick, mobile or a great athlete.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2016/11/09/marquette-adds-size-signing-three-recruits/93495022/ (http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2016/11/09/marquette-adds-size-signing-three-recruits/93495022/)
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I'd be reserved in expectations of all newbies except Froling. Cain could shock & awe
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I wouldn't be surprised if Sam spends more time at the 5 during first semester, in a small lineup focused on driving and perimeter shooting.
At 6-7/225, he's got the size to match Lazar. Sam was the best defensive rebounder on the team last year. And he's a tough matchup for opposing bigs, who generally don't like defending outside the paint.
I'd be interested to see Markus Howard, Andrew Rowsey, Haanif Cheatham, Sacar Anim (or Jamal Cain) and Sam on the court together. Maybe it would only be for 4-5 minutes a game. Depends on how quickly the young bigs develop.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Sam spends more time at the 5 during first semester, in a small lineup focused on driving and perimeter shooting.
At 6-7/225, he's got the size to match Lazar. Sam was the best defensive rebounder on the team last year. And he's a tough matchup for opposing bigs, who generally don't like defending outside the paint.
I'd be interested to see Markus Howard, Andrew Rowsey, Haanif Cheatham, Sacar Anim (or Jamal Cain) and Sam on the court together. Maybe it would only be for 4-5 minutes a game. Depends on how quickly the young bigs develop.
I predict that Sam plays the five for exactly zero minutes next year.
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I predict that Sam plays the five for exactly zero minutes next year.
Interesting cause he played it a decent amount last year when we went small.
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Interesting cause he played it a decent amount last year when we went small.
I know. We didn't go small very often and we didn't have anyone like Frolling.
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I know. We didn't go small very often and we didn't have anyone like Frolling.
It's not a prediction, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it — as I said, during first semester:
1) Luke's graduation opens 25 minutes a game;
2) Harry Froling won't be eligible until second semester;
3) Matt hasn't proven he can play 20+ minutes on a regular basis;
4) Our other front court options (Theo and Ike) are unproven freshmen; and
5) Sam already has experience playing the 5 spot (albeit in limited minutes) last season.
It's true that Henry was an immediate stud from Day 1. But that's exceedingly rare for first-year big men. Luke, a consensus Top 100 recruit and the reigning Mr. Basketball in Wisconsin, averaged just 10 mpg, 2.8 mpg and 2.1 rpg as a freshman at Indiana. Other recent examples include:
Matt Heldt 5.1 mpg, 0.7 ppg, 0.9 rpg
Steve Taylor, Jr 8.6 mpg, 3.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg
Davante Gardner 9.0 mpg, 4.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg
Chris Otule 6.7 mpg, 1.3 ppg, 1.1 rpg
Ousmane Barro 10.0 mpg, 2.0 ppg, 2.3 rpg
Dwight Burke 5.3 mpg, 0.8 ppg, 0.8 rpg
Trevor Mbakwe 9.2 mpg, 1.5 ppg, 2.1 rpg
Patrick Hazel 3.4 mpg, 0.5 ppg, 1.1 rpg
Chris Grimm 4.9 mpg, 0.9 ppg, 0.5 rpg
Terry Sanders 10.9 mpg, 2.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg
Apart from Henry, the best examples of Marquette big men — and I'm using that term in the broadest possible sense — contributing as freshmen in the past decade are 6-4 Deonte Burton (12.6 mpg), 6-6 Lazar Hayward (16.3 mpg) and 6-6 Jeronne Maymon (16.3 mpg).
You have to go all the way back to 6-8 Ryan Amaroso (15.2 mpg in 2004-05) or 6-10 Scott Merritt (20 mpg in 2001-02) to find traditional big men who played significant minutes as freshmen.
My hope is that Matt is good for 20+ minutes to open the non-conference schedule, and that Theo and/or Ike are good enough out of the gate to spell him as needed. I'd say odds that either Theo or Ike averages 10+ mpg are maybe 50-50. We'll have a much clearer picture once the season starts.
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I know. We didn't go small very often and we didn't have anyone like Frolling.
U realizehe will miss a dozen or so games early in the season?
Sticking with the no minutes?
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U realizehe will miss a dozen or so games early in the season?
Sticking with the no minutes?
Sam will get a handful of minutes at the 5 during the first dozen games of the season.
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Sam will get a handful of minutes at the 5 during the first dozen games of the season.
That is different than your original statement
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That is different than your original statement
Gee. Ya think???
I had forgotten that Frolling wasn't eligible until later. And really wasn't considering non-conference anyway.
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Gee. Ya think???
Yes, that is why I said it.
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Sam will get a handful of minutes at the 5 during the first dozen games of the season.
Or still maybe not. My sincere hope is that Matty and the two Frosh take essentially all of them. It'll be good for their development long term. Hard minutes in non-con can lead to some productive minutes come the new year.
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Luke interview but it's in Spanish so wait till we are ahead by 30 pts before reading!
https://twitter.com/grancanariacb/status/885176399828578305
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Luke interview but it's in Spanish so wait till we are ahead by 30 pts before reading!
https://twitter.com/grancanariacb/status/885176399828578305
Si
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https://twitter.com/SynergySST/status/885174465197469696
Jamil most efficient summer league offensive player right now.
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Nice intro video of Luke from new team. They wrote prestigious University of Marquette :-\
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Nice intro video of Luke from new team. They wrote prestigious University of Marquette :-\
No te preocupes.
Sólo es una problema del translación.
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No te preocupes.
Sólo es una problema del translación.
Traducción ;D
https://twitter.com/grancanariacb/status/885814510187139072
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That's cool. My two takeaways: 1) The lovely ladies of Canary can keep their hands off. 2) He still can't guard the pick/roll.
Good luck Luke! And Newsy has to do all our translating going forward.
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That's cool. My two takeaways: 1) The lovely ladies of Canary can keep their hands off. 2) He still can't guard the pick/roll.
Good luck Luke! And Newsy has to do all our translating going forward.
Count on it! And by the way Sand no matta ;)
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Some highlights from JJJ recent activity. Will be trying out for G League soon.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWs-5ZWFMoI/
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Luke continues playing with the Armenian National team in a FIBA World Cup qualifier. I wasn't aware he held an Armenia passport, but it sounds like it eased his signing in The Canaries.
Armenia at 2-0 and plays in Sarajevo against Bosnia and Herzegovina on Wednesday.
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Luke continues playing with the Armenian National team in a FIBA World Cup qualifier. I wasn't aware he held an Armenia passport, but it sounds like it eased his signing in The Canaries.
Armenia at 2-0 and plays in Sarajevo against Bosnia and Herzegovina on Wednesday.
Some good commentary on Luke
http://www.fiba.com/news/armenia-surprise-in-world-cup-european-pre-qualifiers
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Armenia at 2-0 and plays in Sarajevo against Bosnia and Herzegovina on Wednesday.
So if they win on Wednesday, will they be 3-0 or 4-0?
;)
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So I should be impressed that Armenia has such lax citizenship laws that it recruited Luke to play for them in their "FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 European Pre-Qualifiers?"
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So I should be impressed that Armenia has such lax citizenship laws that it recruited Luke to play for them in their "FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 European Pre-Qualifiers?"
Alot of those Eastern European countries do this. His teammate on the team is Ryan Boatright. Pretty sure Andrew Chrabazc from Butler, who is also on the team, isn't Armenian by birth either. I remember seeing players playing for Ukraine and Georgia, without even having played professionally in those countries. Makes the recruiting of German-Americans for the USMNT look super legit.
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Diener played on the Italian team.
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Basically the international rule is if you can proof decendant of up to a grandparent born in country and you have not represented country you were born in, you have your choice of representing either country.
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Basically the international rule is if you can proof decendant of up to a grandparent born in country and you have not represented country you were born in, you have your choice of representing either country.
Correct
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Basically the international rule is if you can proof decendant of up to a grandparent born in country and you have not represented country you were born in, you have your choice of representing either country.
That's lame.
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That's lame.
..next they'll let guys with dilsniks who feel they are women to play in women's competitions, hey?
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Basically the international rule is if you can proof decendant of up to a grandparent born in country and you have not represented country you were born in, you have your choice of representing either country.
I would have never guessed that Luke is of Armenian descent.
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That's lame.
Getting even more insane now each sport federation has their own rules.
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I would have never guessed that Luke is of Armenian descent.
Well he has citizenship, he has a passport.
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Sure, Luke Fischerian, ai na?
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I would have never guessed that Luke is of Armenian descent.
They have some Armenians in the Milwaukee area, Racine in particular, maybe a grandparent in there somewhere.
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Basically the international rule is if you can proof decendant of up to a grandparent born in country and you have not represented country you were born in, you have your choice of representing either country.
I think this is how FIFA handles it for soccer. But its definitely different for FIBA and basketball. Like Ryan Boatright doesn't have an Armenian grandparent. Pooh Jeter played for Ukraine and his only connection was a season playing in Kiev. Michael Dixon who played at Missouri and Memphis plays for the Georgian national team. These countries just give out citizenship/passports to make American players eligible.
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I think this is how FIFA handles it for soccer. But its definitely different for FIBA and basketball. Like Ryan Boatright doesn't have an Armenian grandparent. Pooh Jeter played for Ukraine and his only connection was a season playing in Kiev. Michael Dixon who played at Missouri and Memphis plays for the Georgian national team. These countries just give out citizenship/passports to make American players eligible.
It's on a country by country basis. Each nation can decide how difficult (or easy) it is to earn a passport. Some countries, like the Eastern European nations, make it easy with a family connection or short residency period. In the USA, it's much harder. Just look at Darlington Nagbe, an American soccer player who lived full-time in the country from age 11 and wasn't granted citizenship until he was 25. Really just depends on which country you want to play for.
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I would have never guessed that Luke is of Armenian descent.
Sand Knit thinks Luke is the worst Armenian basketball player he's ever seen.
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Sand Knit thinks Luke is the worst Armenian basketball player he's ever seen.
I agree with him. But that's because I don't think I've seen another.
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I agree with him. But that's because I don't think I've seen another.
Yep Half empty, or half Filled.
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Sand Knit thinks Luke is the worst Armenian basketball player he's ever seen.
Cant hold Boatright or Chrabacz's jocks, that is for sure
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I agree with him. But that's because I don't think I've seen another.
mujivitz is pretty bad.
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The Armenian Youth programs are still attempting to drive home the fundamentals of the game. Like you're not supposed to block a teammates shot.
http://www.msy.am/en/noroutyounner/avartvel-en-hh-bardzragouyn-ousoumnakan-h.html
(http://www.msy.am/gallery/391/111.jpg)
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I would have never guessed that Luke is of Armenian descent.
Same here. From the photos of the Armenian team, looks like a couple of them could have inspired Luke's haircut/beard.
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In fact this is a very clever move by Luke's agent. Recognizing that Luke would not get a chance to play in the NBA and not wasting time with summer league, he finds him a way to get high level Euro experience right away and a place on a team where he'll likely get minutes right away because their #1 center from last year got drafted in the first round.
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In fact this is a very clever move by Luke's agent. Recognizing that Luke would not get a chance to play in the NBA and not wasting time with summer league, he finds him a way to get high level Euro experience right away and a place on a team where he'll likely get minutes right away because their #1 center from last year got drafted in the first round.
LOL..."high level"
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LOL..."high level"
He means physically...compared to the Armenians.
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Luke arrives and tries to speak a bit of Spanish
https://twitter.com/grancanariacb/status/899752642834038784
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Very nice opportunity for Katin.
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/901524705789833217
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JJJ in Beijing.....
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXafPY3ly54/
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Armenia's national team also has Andrew Chrabascz who played on butler. Also they have Ryan Boatright who played on the UConn national championship team
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Armenia's national team also has Andrew Chrabascz who played on butler. Also they have Ryan Boatright who played on the UConn national championship team
My uncle used to be the head coach for Armenia's national team and he said that usually the smaller countries are allowed to have 1 american on the roster and Armenia's is Boatright
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BigFishy with the dunk
https://twitter.com/acbcom/status/909151270333693952
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BigFoshy with the dunk
https://twitter.com/acbcom/status/909151270333693952
Where was that when he was here? I love that we could've called him "Big Foshy"!
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Where was that when he was here? I love that we could've called him "Big Foshy"!
Lol my clumsy fingers bad iphone ;D
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JJJ making his European debut....
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/910875536146169856
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JJJ is starting for his German team at Point Guard. He is averaging 13.0 ppg 5.5. rpg and 4.0 assists so far.
http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Germany/NINERS-Chemnitz/1791
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Did someone mention Armenia?
Those of you who know me know I am very active about my Armenian ethnicity. To say the least I was a bit shocked to see Luke playing for the Havakakan but I loved seeing him in the tri-color. As some have mentioned teams get one international exception and that already is Boatright.
So that means Luke has Armenian ancestry? Well as you can imagine, I don't think they are rolling sarma and cooking shish kabob in a tonir in the backyard in Germantown. Sounds like they just gave him a passport. No idea how they are allowed to do this, I was in touch with the last coach of the Armenian national team who I am somewhat close with and he was a bit surprised asking me where his Armenian ethnicity was.
Well, I don't know what my point is here other than they probably just gave him and Andrew passports, and that I am very excited as an #mubb fanatic and Armenian to have someone on the national team :)
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They have some Armenians in the Milwaukee area, Racine in particular, maybe a grandparent in there somewhere.
My Dad, who usually prides himself on knowing the complete book of every Armenian in a 100 mile radius, has been researching this.
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I agree with him. But that's because I don't think I've seen another.
The "great" David Lalazarian played for Pepperdine in the mid to late 90's and was an original ND signee I believe.
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mujivitz is pretty bad.
He's correct. I stink going to my left. Or right.
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He means physically...compared to the Armenians.
Um, we get physical.
You don't think Khloe could box out?
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Um, we get physical.
You don't think Khloe could box out?
Khloe isn't Armenian, if you know what I'm sayin... ;)
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Well, I don't know what my point is here other than they probably just gave him and Andrew passports, and that I am very excited as an #mubb fanatic and Armenian to have someone on the national team :)
I think the inclusion of Ryan Boatright on the team as well points to that. Good for Armenia, and great for Luke.
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I think the inclusion of Ryan Boatright on the team as well points to that. Good for Armenia, and great for Luke.
Right, but the difference is that everyone is supposed to have 1 international exception and that is Boatright. Not Luke.
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Katin leading team in scoring doing well in Lithuania.
https://twitter.com/BDASportsINTL/status/916774938459205638
http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Lithuania/Dzukija-Alytus/1531
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That's a great reaction by his teammates. :o
I think the fans were more excited than the team.
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Right, but the difference is that everyone is supposed to have 1 international exception and that is Boatright. Not Luke.
Well they are getting pretty liberal with citizenship connections, cause I just noticed AJ Hess. Maybe if your grandparents had an Armenian friend at some point, thats enough ;D
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JJJ has returned to the US he was homesick although he reports the milkshakes were good in Germany.
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JJJ has returned to the US he was homesick although he reports the milkshakes were good in Germany.
Chemnitz would be a tough place to go in Germany. But man you wish these guys would stick it out.
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Chemnitz would be a tough place to go in Germany. But man you wish these guys would stick it out.
Welcome Back!
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Welcome Back!
Thank you.
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JJJ has returned to the US he was homesick although he reports the milkshakes were good in Germany.
Does not need the money, hey?
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Big Fishy doing his thing.
https://twitter.com/ACBCOM/status/909151270333693952
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Love to see Fischer doing well
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Big Fishy doing his thing.
https://twitter.com/ACBCOM/status/909151270333693952
Meh. Matt would have done all that with no hands and his eyes closed.
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bump, Katin is playing the ball brothers on January 23rd according to his girlfriend on twitter
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bump, Katin is playing the ball brothers on January 23rd according to his girlfriend on twitter
Should be a good game. Katin is doing well this season.