Coaching Carousel 2017

[Hards Alumni]

Tom Crean should spend a year in broadcasting.  He has a knack for it and knows how to do research.

He shouldn't rush into any coaching gig that comes his way.

[Lennys Tap]

Here's the thing with Crean.  He was an epic douche early in his career, as are most coaches.  Friends of mine that worked for him said he was a jerk.  Same friends said same things about Buzz ater, only worse.

Saying that, look how many former players and coaches swear by the man?  How many say he made them better men, not just better basketball players.  Of course there are some that don't like him, too.  Cannot please everyone.  More often than not I'm going to take the viewpoints of people that interacted with him daily for years than some message board scrubs that interacted with him 2 times for a total of 3 minutes.  Though depending on where Crean was in his life, those 3 minutes could have been unpleasant.

Someone I know very well that worked for Crean at MU and didn't like him, has changed his tune the last few years. Said that Crean grew up, became humble, not the control freak he was, has become softer.  A totally different person.

Crean will land somewhere, but probably next season. He needs a year off, take that IU money.  Decompress, renew his energy.

Long time no see, Chico!

[wadesworld]

Long time no see, Chico!

Careful. Could just be a rando that Chicos invited over for some beers and Disney tickets with their wives.

[GGGG]

Tom Crean should spend a year in broadcasting.  He has a knack for it and knows how to do research.

He shouldn't rush into any coaching gig that comes his way.

If Crean wants to coach, he should coach.

[Oldgym]

Careful. Could just be a rando that Chicos invited over for some beers and Disney tickets with their wives.

Solid

[wadesworld]

Solid

Also forgot to mention he gave said rando his wifi password so he could post on MUScoop while spending QT at the Chicos residence.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

I pray that epic name dropping douche isnt returning (chico,hoop,etc)

[MUDPT]

Here's the thing with Crean.  He was an epic douche early in his career, as are most coaches.  Friends of mine that worked for him said he was a jerk.  Same friends said same things about Buzz ater, only worse.

Saying that, look how many former players and coaches swear by the man?  How many say he made them better men, not just better basketball players.  Of course there are some that don't like him, too.  Cannot please everyone.  More often than not I'm going to take the viewpoints of people that interacted with him daily for years than some message board scrubs that interacted with him 2 times for a total of 3 minutes.  Though depending on where Crean was in his life, those 3 minutes could have been unpleasant.

Someone I know very well that worked for Crean at MU and didn't like him, has changed his tune the last few years. Said that Crean grew up, became humble, not the control freak he was, has become softer.  A totally different person.

Crean will land somewhere, but probably next season. He needs a year off, take that IU money.  Decompress, renew his energy.

TC lives his life "to the fullest." I believe this story and every jerk story. The man has no off switch.

[MUDPT]

Mike Deane has retired from coaching

http://www.silive.com/sports/advance/gordon/index.ssf/2017/04/former_wagner_college_head_man.html

The '98 Minnesota NIT game was ON ESPN classic a couple of weeks ago. This was a little before my time, but anyone want to give a summary on what happened the following year? Obviously the recruiting improved under Crean. They blew the Minnesota game (not unlike some losses this season) and still had a Cliff wide open 3 at the buzzer to win. Gophers won the NIT that year.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

The '98 Minnesota NIT game was ON ESPN classic a couple of weeks ago. This was a little before my time, but anyone want to give a summary on what happened the following year? Obviously the recruiting improved under Crean. They blew the Minnesota game (not unlike some losses this season) and still had a Cliff wide open 3 at the buzzer to win. Gophers won the NIT that year.

Umm the team had no talent coupled with the fact that deane on the radio said MU was unrealistic to expect challenging for the ncaas every year.  The axe swung shortly after

[jsglow]

Umm the team had no talent coupled with the fact that deane on the radio said MU was unrealistic to expect challenging for the ncaas every year.  The axe swung shortly after

Exactly.  Fr. Wild wasn't going to be writing the big check for an occasional NCAA.

[barfolomew]

Crean was on PTI last night. They asked if he was interested in the Georgetown job. He replied that he didn't think Georgetown was interested in him.

I thought this quote was interesting, regarding research for his next job:

"I'm going to be much smarter when it comes to understanding infrastructure, when it comes to understanding who I'm working with, when it comes to understanding what I'm walking into."

[warriorchick]

I thought this quote was interesting, regarding research for his next job:

"I'm going to be much smarter when it comes to understanding infrastructure, when it comes to understanding who I'm working with, when it comes to understanding what I'm walking into."

Are you sure this wasn't a KO quote from after accepted the UT job?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Here's the thing with Crean.  He was an epic douche early in his career, as are most coaches.  Friends of mine that worked for him said he was a jerk.  Same friends said same things about Buzz ater, only worse.

Saying that, look how many former players and coaches swear by the man?  How many say he made them better men, not just better basketball players.  Of course there are some that don't like him, too.  Cannot please everyone.  More often than not I'm going to take the viewpoints of people that interacted with him daily for years than some message board scrubs that interacted with him 2 times for a total of 3 minutes.  Though depending on where Crean was in his life, those 3 minutes could have been unpleasant.

Someone I know very well that worked for Crean at MU and didn't like him, has changed his tune the last few years. Said that Crean grew up, became humble, not the control freak he was, has become softer.  A totally different person.

Crean will land somewhere, but probably next season. He needs a year off, take that IU money.  Decompress, renew his energy.

I guess rocket was wrong again.

[Pakuni]

Can't hurt, I suppose.

Evan Daniels @EvanDaniels
Chattanooga has agreed to a 6-year deal with Wisconsin assistant Lamont Paris, per multiple sources.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Ewing to Georgetown talk emerging...and they needed to hire a search firm?

https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/georgetown-wise-keep-family-patrick-ewing/

[brewcity77]

Ewing to Georgetown talk emerging...and they needed to hire a search firm?

https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/georgetown-wise-keep-family-patrick-ewing/

If they go with Ewing, not saying it'd be a bad hire, but talk about an unquestionable fallback hire after everyone else said no. Just reeks of the "well, we can't get anyone we want, may as well go with the guy we know will say yes".

Of course, would Ewing stick if the NBA came calling? He's already expressed interest in that one day, and it's more money for in some ways less headaches (at least as far as dealing with kids goes).

[GGGG]

They could have engaged with a search firm to do all sorts of things.  Background and reference for instance.  Those firms do more than simply find someone.

[warriorchick]

They could have engaged with a search firm to do all sorts of things.  Background and reference for instance.  Those firms do more than simply find someone.

This.  My organization hired a firm to find a new CEO, even though there's a 95% chance they will hire someone either within the organization or referred by someone within the organization.

[Dr. Blackheart]

They could have engaged with a search firm to do all sorts of things.  Background and reference for instance.  Those firms do more than simply find someone.

I understand all this but the irony of the article was that...

According to Rothstein's report, Big John Thompson wants Ewing to take over the job.

[forgetful]

I understand all this but the irony of the article was that...

Often times they hire the search firm as cover for doing exactly what they wanted to do to begin with (kind of like business consulting).  This way, they hire Ewing (probably was #1 choice all along), and can say he was the number #1 recommendation for the search firm.

Going after the likes of Mack/Brey/Amaker, was likely publicity oriented, in demonstrating they could throw around $4M+ salaries, while knowing that Mack/Brey/Amaker weren't going anywhere.

They get to reinforce the image of Georgetown being big league, and then hire the guy that keeps the dynasty/lineage intact.  As others have indicated it also presents the image of burying the hold hatchet between Thompson and Dematha (Wooten).  Don't underestimate the public posturing that goes on in these types of hires.

[brewcity77]

They get to reinforce the image of Georgetown being big league, and then hire the guy that keeps the dynasty/lineage intact.

Not disagreeing, but isn't getting turned down by four candidates (Cooley, Brey, Mack, Smart) seems like a way to say your brand isn't as big as you thought it was, especially when you settle on the veritable in-house hire. And trying to spin he was the #1 choice when four other guys turned you down, that just seems silly. 

[forgetful]

Not disagreeing, but isn't getting turned down by four candidates (Cooley, Brey, Mack, Smart) seems like a way to say your brand isn't as big as you thought it was, especially when you settle on the veritable in-house hire. And trying to spin he was the #1 choice when four other guys turned you down, that just seems silly. 

Understand that sentiment also.  But part of the thing is making boosters happy, who wanted a new direction.  Also makes fans happy to realize the administration is committed. 

Lots of different angles.  Trying to weigh all the optics.  In the end, the schools usually go in the direction they had intended from day 1.  The rest is all public posturing.

[Eagles22]

Of course, would Ewing stick if the NBA came calling? He's already expressed interest in that one day, and it's more money for in some ways less headaches (at least as far as dealing with kids goes).

Not sure Ewing would need the pay bump. This would be a great hire for GTown.

[rocket surgeon]

I guess rocket was wrong again.

nope again!!  this ain't chicos dudes