Coaching Carousel 2017

[muguru]

I have a great idea!! Georgetown should offer that 4 mill a year to Greg Gard!! MU wins that in a couple different ways. 

[MUMountin]

Plus deez dudes all have egos beyond measurement.

I don't think it even needs to be about their inflated egos--its largely just human nature.  Most people are always open to improving their lot in life if presented with the opportunity--whether that's financially, emotionally, etc.  Coaches are no different, especially in the early- to mid- portions of their careers.  Who among us wouldn't take a job with better pay, resources, ability to succeed, especially if we are the ones being pursued?

Certainly, there comes a certain point in a career (and, sometimes, a certain type of person/coach) when they realize the grass might not be greener, and that there is a benefit to settling in where they are, even if it isn't a blueblood--Few, Wright, etc.  Its finding that sweet spot of a coach that doesn't need to scratch that itch, but is good enough to not get canned, and hopefully realizes that there is potential for lots of long-term success at MU if they stick it out long enough.

Personally, I doubt that Wojo is that guy--something bigger or better will come along some day, even if it isn't Duke.  That doesn't mean that I'll begrudge him that move when it happens, as I can't say I wouldn't do that myself if presented with the opportunity.  In the meantime, I'll hope that he is successful enough at MU to get those calls, and that maybe the next coaching search we can land that guy that will stick around for a decade or more. 

[DienerTime34]

What are all the schools not called Duke going to be thinking when they poach Wojo? "I hope he implements his slow-as-hell rebuilding process so we too can have a first-round exit 3 years in and no ability on the defensive end?"

[MUBurrow]

I honestly think they are finding out that that job isn't what a lot of their fans/media think it is..They have been rejected now by...Brey, Smart, Mack, Hurley, Cooley and probably others that haven't been made public. They waited entirely too long to fire JTIII, that's the biggest problem here. I know their fans would hate it, but I can't see Amaker rejecting it if he was offered. I think they want a big fish, but are finding out that no one wants to deal with the spector of JTII looming over them. Still no idea why they don't offer it to Crean, he'd do great there. I'm just not sure if he's an east coast guy.

I still think this ends with them hiring Amaker, but the packaging of the hire would have been a lot better if the search hadn't turned into something of a travesty.  The Thompsons handing the reigns to an African American coach that has been very successful at Harvard, came of age in the Duke program, and has been around the block would have seemed a natural transition, and Amaker would have been able to hit the east coast recruiting trail right away if it looked like Gtown and the Thompsons were excited to have him.

[Silkk the Shaka]

What are all the schools not called Duke going to be thinking when they poach Wojo? "I hope he implements his slow-as-hell rebuilding process so we too can have a first-round exit 3 years in and no ability on the defensive end?"

LOL I legit laughed but that's so unfair

[buckchuckler]

Wojo is comfortable where he is at.  He is building something.  He is going nowhere anytime soon.

Good grief really?  How many times has that exact thing been posted on this board?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Good grief really?  How many times has that exact thing been posted on this board?

I have no idea. But I believe what I said. I don't think Wojo is going anywhere for at least a few seasons.

[Herman Cain]

Good research report on Crean.
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2017/03/31/doyel-compassionate-tom-crean-not-cartoon-character-you-think-he/99863548/

[Windyplayer]

Good research report on Crean.
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2017/03/31/doyel-compassionate-tom-crean-not-cartoon-character-you-think-he/99863548/

Way to upset the narrative around here. Listen, we all know Crean has a ceiling as a college basketball, but that is such a small part of who he is, or any other coach is for that matter. Basketball, sports in general, should be treated as a means to something more profound/meaningful. Sounds like Crean leveraged the sport and his elevated platform--at least to an extent--to make a substantive impact on other's lives for the better. I'll take that over a myopic coach who nets a few more wins. Of course, I'd prefer to have both!

[MU82]

What are all the schools not called Duke going to be thinking when they poach Wojo? "I hope he implements his slow-as-hell rebuilding process so we too can have a first-round exit 3 years in and no ability on the defensive end?"

Yeah, I only wish he had been able to have a quick, 2-year rebuilding process like the coach at Texas has pulled off.

[vogue65]

I don't think it even needs to be about their inflated egos--its largely just human nature.  Most people are always open to improving their lot in life if presented with the opportunity--whether that's financially, emotionally, etc.  Coaches are no different, especially in the early- to mid- portions of their careers.  Who among us wouldn't take a job with better pay, resources, ability to succeed, especially if we are the ones being pursued?

Certainly, there comes a certain point in a career (and, sometimes, a certain type of person/coach) when they realize the grass might not be greener, and that there is a benefit to settling in where they are, even if it isn't a blueblood--Few, Wright, etc.  Its finding that sweet spot of a coach that doesn't need to scratch that itch, but is good enough to not get canned, and hopefully realizes that there is potential for lots of long-term success at MU if they stick it out long enough.

Personally, I doubt that Wojo is that guy--something bigger or better will come along some day, even if it isn't Duke.  That doesn't mean that I'll begrudge him that move when it happens, as I can't say I wouldn't do that myself if presented with the opportunity.  In the meantime, I'll hope that he is successful enough at MU to get those calls, and that maybe the next coaching search we can land that guy that will stick around for a decade or more.

Interesting slant, but Wojo stayed at Duke long after most of his cohort left.  There are people who don't have a wanderlust, I  think Wojo is one of those people, not unlike Al McGuire.

[shoothoops]

Tom Crean has spent a great deal of his career at larger, public schools, in the Midwest. This seems to be his what he likes and prefers. It would be interesting if he moved to a different part of the country, and/or landed at a smaller private school again. I don't see it.  But if it were by far his best opportunity to do so, I am sure he would.

[Marqus Howard]

Crean was on PTI last night. They asked if he was interested in the Georgetown job. He replied that he didn't think Georgetown was interested in him.

[willie warrior]

I don't think it even needs to be about their inflated egos--its largely just human nature.  Most people are always open to improving their lot in life if presented with the opportunity--whether that's financially, emotionally, etc.  Coaches are no different, especially in the early- to mid- portions of their careers.  Who among us wouldn't take a job with better pay, resources, ability to succeed, especially if we are the ones being pursued?

Certainly, there comes a certain point in a career (and, sometimes, a certain type of person/coach) when they realize the grass might not be greener, and that there is a benefit to settling in where they are, even if it isn't a blueblood--Few, Wright, etc.  Its finding that sweet spot of a coach that doesn't need to scratch that itch, but is good enough to not get canned, and hopefully realizes that there is potential for lots of long-term success at MU if they stick it out long enough.

Personally, I doubt that Wojo is that guy--something bigger or better will come along some day, even if it isn't Duke.  That doesn't mean that I'll begrudge him that move when it happens, as I can't say I wouldn't do that myself if presented with the opportunity.  In the meantime, I'll hope that he is successful enough at MU to get those calls, and that maybe the next coaching search we can land that guy that will stick around for a decade or more.

A decade or more? Sad to say that Al is not walking through that door again

[wildbillsb]

"There are people who don't have a wanderlust, I  think Wojo is one of those people, not unlike Al McGuire."

Al McGuire did not have a wanderlust?  I beg to differ.

[ScopesnotSnopes]

Good research report on Crean.
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2017/03/31/doyel-compassionate-tom-crean-not-cartoon-character-you-think-he/99863548/

Here's the thing with Crean.  He was an epic douche early in his career, as are most coaches.  Friends of mine that worked for him said he was a jerk.  Same friends said same things about Buzz ater, only worse.

Saying that, look how many former players and coaches swear by the man?  How many say he made them better men, not just better basketball players.  Of course there are some that don't like him, too.  Cannot please everyone.  More often than not I'm going to take the viewpoints of people that interacted with him daily for years than some message board scrubs that interacted with him 2 times for a total of 3 minutes.  Though depending on where Crean was in his life, those 3 minutes could have been unpleasant.

Someone I know very well that worked for Crean at MU and didn't like him, has changed his tune the last few years. Said that Crean grew up, became humble, not the control freak he was, has become softer.  A totally different person.

Crean will land somewhere, but probably next season. He needs a year off, take that IU money.  Decompress, renew his energy.

[warriorchick]

A decade or more? Sad to say that Al is not walking through that door again

Are you saying that doesn't happen any more?  What about guys like Mark Few?

[Oldgym]

Lobos ditch Craig Neal.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19051223/craig-neal-fired-new-mexico-men-basketball-head-coach

[Loose Cannon]

Interesting slant, but Wojo stayed at Duke long after most of his cohort left.  There are people who don't have a wanderlust, I  think Wojo is one of those people, not unlike Al McGuire.

Yep, I think he gained much insight watching Coach K evaluate all elements in the many of his  offers to move out of Durham to a bigger stage.  To some, Bigger May be Less.

[wadesworld]

Tom Crean has spent a great deal of his career at larger, public schools, in the Midwest. This seems to be his what he likes and prefers. It would be interesting if he moved to a different part of the country, and/or landed at a smaller private school again. I don't see it.  But if it were by far his best opportunity to do so, I am sure he would.

I know Marquette is in the Midwest, but it being a large public school is news to me.

[ScopesnotSnopes]

Mike Deane has retired from coaching

http://www.silive.com/sports/advance/gordon/index.ssf/2017/04/former_wagner_college_head_man.html

[shoothoops]

I know Marquette is in the Midwest, but it being a large public school is news to me.

It isn't.

While at Marquette, Crean had interest in other larger public Universities. Much of his other experience is at these places as well. Central Michigan (student) Western Kentucky, Pittsburgh, Michigan St., Indiana.

[Nukem2]

Mike Deane has retired from coaching

http://www.silive.com/sports/advance/gordon/index.ssf/2017/04/former_wagner_college_head_man.html

He retired from recruiting in 1995.

[GGGG]

Lobos ditch Craig Neal.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19051223/craig-neal-fired-new-mexico-men-basketball-head-coach

Now *that* would be a good landing spot for Crean. 

[Hards Alumni]

He retired from recruiting in 1995.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States

savage.