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cheebs09

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on September 13, 2017, 03:34:51 PM
Now this I absolutely have an issue with.

If I were the Cubs, Cardinals, or Rockies, I'd be irate. As a Brewers fan, I expected a neutral site somewhere if it wasn't going to be Miami.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: The Deane Team on September 13, 2017, 03:31:19 PM
Marlins v Brewers series moved to Milwaukee this weekend!

It'll be interesting to see if all the Brewers fans who took exception to the Cubs getting special permission to move a game time back 6 hours have any issue with getting 3 bonus home games. I can guess  ;)

The Sox, Cardinals and Royals are all away this weekend. Toronto, Seattle and Arizona's domes are available (well, they're not hosting MLB games at least) although out west would be a LONG way to send the Marlins. There were potentially better options than giving a team in the pennant chase 3 additional home games. It is what it is though. If the Cubs take care of business, it shouldn't be an issue.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: cheebs09 on September 13, 2017, 03:41:45 PM
If I were the Cubs, Cardinals, or Rockies, I'd be irate. As a Brewers fan, I expected a neutral site somewhere if it wasn't going to be Miami.

I'd love to hear an explanation of why a neutral location was not feasible. 

This is some Grade-A bullsh*t.

Vander Blue Man Group

Brewers .548 winning percentage at home, .500 on the road
Marlins .438 winning percentage on the road, .507 at home

#UnleashSean

I feel like Wades would have typed about 7 pages worth of crap had this happened to the Cubs. Oh well, it's not that huge of a deal. Miller doesn't get attendance anyways.

wadesworld

I love it. Cubs fans getting all squirmy because they can't decide the Brewers schedule for them.

The 2008 series between the Astros and Cubs at Miller Park was totally 24,000 neutral Milwaukeeans just trying to see some baseball.

The Yankees and Rays playing a series at Citi Field this year was definitely all Mets fans filling the stands just enjoying some ball between 2 teams they don't cheer for.

And comparing a manager just deciding he wanted to change the schedule to benefit his team is definitely comparable to a team whose city was hit by a hurricane...

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on September 13, 2017, 04:01:31 PM
I feel like Wades would have typed about 7 pages worth of crap had this happened to the Cubs. Oh well, it's not that huge of a deal. Miller doesn't get attendance anyways.

What's funny is I wasn't even the one who brought up the schedule change. All the Cubbie fans got upset that the Brewers actually expected to follow their schedule.

buckchuckler

I may be wrong on this but didn't the Astros ( a few years back) play a "home series" against the Cubs in Miller Park, where it was crawling with cub fans?  This is a little different, but not much.

Also recently I heard an interview with the owner of the Rays, and ge talked about how truly difficult it is to put on a game on short notice at a ln alternate location.

Vander Blue Man Group

#1082
Quote from: QuentinsWorld on September 13, 2017, 04:10:54 PM
I love it. Cubs fans getting all squirmy because they can't decide the Brewers schedule for them.

The 2008 series between the Astros and Cubs at Miller Park was totally 24,000 neutral Milwaukeeans just trying to see some baseball.

The Yankees and Rays playing a series at Citi Field this year was definitely all Mets fans filling the stands just enjoying some ball between 2 teams they don't cheer for.

And comparing a manager just deciding he wanted to change the schedule to benefit his team is definitely comparable to a team whose city was hit by a hurricane...

What's funny is I wasn't even the one who brought up the schedule change. All the Cubbie fans got upset that the Brewers actually expected to follow their schedule.

Really?  Remove your head from your ass and look at it from an unbiased perspective. 

Quote from: buckchuckler on September 13, 2017, 04:16:30 PM
I may be wrong on this but didn't the Astros ( a few years back) play a "home series" against the Cubs in Miller Park, where it was crawling with cub fans?  This is a little different, but not much.

Also recently I heard an interview with the owner of the Rays, and ge talked about how truly difficult it is to put on a game on short notice at a ln alternate location.

You are correct, because of Hurricane Ike.  Zambrano threw a no-hitter.  While it wasn't necessarily neutral it was certainly different than playing the games at Wrigley.  If I recall correctly, Houston was very upset about it and that was understandable. 

The White Sox are out of town this weekend.  Schedule it there and let's see how many Brewers fans make the trip. 

BM1090

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on September 13, 2017, 04:24:08 PM
Really?  Remove your head from your ass and look at it from an unbiased perspective. 

You are correct, because of Hurricane Ike.  Zambrano threw a no-hitter.  While it wasn't necessarily neutral it was certainly different than playing the games at Wrigley.  If I recall correctly, Houston was very upset about it and that was understandable. 

The White Sox are out of town this weekend.  Schedule it there and let's see how many Brewers fans make the trip.

I'd assume MLB wasn't willing to risk a rain out at this point in the season which ruled out many potential host sites. Could have moved to to Arizona, although that is far for both teams.

reinko

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on September 13, 2017, 04:01:31 PM
I feel like Wades would have typed about 7 pages worth of crap had this happened to the Cubs. Oh well, it's not that huge of a deal. Miller doesn't get attendance anyways.

Says the guy who said the Brewers would be out of the playoff race by the ASG, and then refused to bet on it.

Lastly, Crew in top 10 of MLB attendance this year genius.

4everwarriors

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on September 13, 2017, 03:52:02 PM
I'd love to hear an explanation of why a neutral location was not feasible. 

This is some Grade-A bullsh*t.


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That's an interesting decision by the MLB. Really no neutral sites available? I'm a Brewers' fan but this definitely raises an eyebrow for me. But I can't imagine that the MLB put it in Milwaukee without exhausting all other feasible options.
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wadesworld

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on September 13, 2017, 04:24:08 PM
Really?  Remove your head from your ass and look at it from an unbiased perspective. 

You are correct, because of Hurricane Ike.  Zambrano threw a no-hitter.  While it wasn't necessarily neutral it was certainly different than playing the games at Wrigley.  If I recall correctly, Houston was very upset about it and that was understandable. 

The White Sox are out of town this weekend.  Schedule it there and let's see how many Brewers fans make the trip.

Dang dude, these jabs continue to hurt!

Why would the MLB want to move the game to the Cell when the weather report calls for mostly sunny on Saturday?  Those are the exact types of conditions that result in rain outs in Chicago.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: reinko on September 13, 2017, 05:21:47 PM
Says the guy who said the Brewers would be out of the playoff race by the ASG, and then refused to bet on it.

Lastly, Crew in top 10 of MLB attendance this year genius.

Why would I bet on it? I would have lost.

jsglow

#1089


For the record, it was a helluva break for the Crew.  I did see a quote that Maddon said 'Something had to be done and he had no issue with it.'

Seems as if logistics played a huge issue, just getting stadium workers, etc.  Read that the Crew is only being allowed to open the lower deck on Friday.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: jsglow on September 13, 2017, 06:36:55 PM


For the record, it was a helluva break for the Crew.  I did see a quote that Maddon said 'Something had to be done and he had no issue with it.'

Seems as if logistics played a huge issue, just getting stadium workers, etc.  Read that the Crew is only being allowed to open the lower deck on Friday.


I believe that's all the employees they can find

MU82

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on September 13, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
Brewers .548 winning percentage at home, .500 on the road
Marlins .438 winning percentage on the road, .507 at home

Don't forget that some of this might have to do with the home team hitting last ... which I assume the Marlins will get to do in these games, yes?
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Well, Giancarlo should get pass 62 with the extra games at Miller Park.

wadesworld

Quote from: PTM on September 13, 2017, 09:12:17 PM
Well, Giancarlo should get pass 62 with the extra games at Miller Park.

Have you watched the dude's yackers? Those things aren't wall scrapers.

Benny B

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on September 13, 2017, 04:38:53 PM
I'd assume MLB wasn't willing to risk a rain out at this point in the season which ruled out many potential host sites. Could have moved to to Arizona, although that is far for both teams.

This.  Given the logistics of putting together staff, support and security for a game on 48 hours' notice, there's no way you could reschedule a doubleheader on top of that if one of the first two games are rained out.  So with the Marlins and Brewers not having a common off day the remainder of the season, the possibility that you could have a three team playoff for the NL Central, a rainout would mean potentially having to cancel a travel day during the postseason (which MLBPA only allows for the teams that are actually rained out) or cancel the rained-out game (because the WS dates are set in stone).

So imagine how much bitching there would be if the Brewers won the Central by 1/2 game because they only had to play 161, and then you'll understand why MLB didn't really have much of a choice to call the Brewers.

(BTW - The Brewers did not lobby for this.... it was entirely MLB's decision.)
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

buckchuckler

Quote from: PTM on September 13, 2017, 09:12:17 PM
Well, Giancarlo should get pass 62 with the extra games at Miller Park.

Hmm.  That would probably deserve an asterisk.

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Quote from: QuentinsWorld on September 13, 2017, 10:03:10 PM
Have you watched the dude's yackers? Those things aren't wall scrapers.

Dude bombs. His routine fly balls may make it out though.

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Quote from: buckchuckler on September 14, 2017, 12:42:24 AM
Hmm.  That would probably deserve an asterisk.

Stanton? Eh... I'd believe wades on Arrieta before I'd think Stanton.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on September 13, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
Brewers .548 winning percentage at home, .500 on the road
Marlins .438 winning percentage on the road, .507 at home

So much this.  This switch gives the Brewers between 4.8% to 6.9% better chance of winning.   Wow.


jsglow

Quote from: MU82 on September 13, 2017, 08:07:32 PM
Don't forget that some of this might have to do with the home team hitting last ... which I assume the Marlins will get to do in these games, yes?

Yes, the Marlins will bat last.  I'm assuming the clubs will use their normal dugouts however.  Would think that's just how the clubhouses are connected.

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