MLB 2017 Season

[MU82]

The Crew needs to be able to beat crappy teams.

I believe they were 10-3 vs. the Nats, Dodgers, Cubs, and Cards. It is the lousy teams that are the problem.

Like the Pirates.

[#UnleashSean]

With the Rockies not letting up against the Dodgers, it's shaping up that the three-way race between the Brewers, Cardinals and Cubs will be one where there are no points for second place.

Actually in that scenario a 2nd place in the NL central could get a playoff 

Nevermind. I read it wrong.

[buckchuckler]

Jose Abreu is one hell of a hitter.  That is all.

[4everwarriors]

Brewers gonna put out a little prick tease. Den, leave ya high and dry?

[jsglow]

Brewers gonna put out a little prick tease. Den, leave ya high and dry?

Honestly, nobody feels that way at all.  Crew is a highly competitive team with a $60M payroll.  Thrilled to be playing September ball.

[Benny B]

Honestly, nobody feels that way at all.  Crew is a highly competitive team with a $60M payroll.  Thrilled to be playing September ball.

Exactly... this is like the hottest chick in the bar hitting on 4ever at 1:30 a.m.  He's not supposed to be there, and even if he was, there's no way anyone could have predicted her choosing him.

[🏀]

Honestly, nobody feels that way at all.  Crew is a highly competitive team with a $60M payroll.  Thrilled to be playing September ball.

You're obsessed with the payroll being a factor....why? If it was $95 million would you still be happy? $125 million? Does it matter?

Also, it's $80 million.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You're obsessed with the payroll being a factor....why? If it was $95 million would you still be happy? $125 million? Does it matter?

If you would like the Cubs to trade payroll capacity with the Brewers, I'm sure that the Brewers would be open to that.

[Benny B]

Some of you forget that baseball is a business.  Wins and losses aren't the only metrics for success.

[jsglow]

First, know your facts.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2017/09/09/haudricourt-lowest-payroll-among-contenders-brewers-got-bang-their-bucks/639961001/

'When the season began, they had an actual payroll of less than $60 million, the lowest among the 30 clubs ...'

Second, I'm not one of those guys who can only enjoy and respect a team that wins the championship or something close.  Marquette basketball is not a 'failure' in my eyes in years they fall short of the Final 4, for example.  That's one reason I'm unwilling to sacrifice everything for winning.  Character and academics matter in my mind.  The Brewers have been an outstanding club this year.  It'll be an incredible accomplishment if they make the post season in the single sport most tilted toward the big dollar clubs of any major sport.  It'll be a very solid accomplishment if they can finish strong and continue to build for the future.  For me at this point, staying solidly above .500 for the season is a laudable goal and would mean that this year was a success.

[🏀]

First, know your facts.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2017/09/09/haudricourt-lowest-payroll-among-contenders-brewers-got-bang-their-bucks/639961001/

I do know the facts, the payroll is currently almost $83 million. Opening Day is different.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/milwaukee-brewers/payroll/

[🏀]

If you would like the Cubs to trade payroll capacity with the Brewers, I'm sure that the Brewers would be open to that.

The Brewers have payroll capacity and have spent big bucks when necessary before. I don't think that's an issue.

Some of you forget that baseball is a business.  Wins and losses aren't the only metrics for success.

It's a business, sure. As a fan, it's not my business. Wins and losses are the only metric for success in the regular season.

[wadesworld]

Whether the Brewers sneak into the postseason or flame out over the last 18 games of the season and finish 10 games out of the postseason, anybody who doesn't think this season was a wild success for the Brewers doesn't know baseball.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The Brewers have payroll capacity and have spent big bucks when necessary before. I don't think that's an issue.

They have a higher payroll capacity than what they are currently spending, that's true. But is still among the lowest in the majors. Saying it doesn't matter when one team has $100 Mil to spend and another has $200 Mil to spend is a little disingenuous.

[Benny B]

Let's also not lose sight of the fact that there is a correlation between payroll and success on the field (even though it's not absolute). 

The point in pointing out the Brewers payroll is either a) they shouldn't even be in the postseason conversation at this juncture or b) it's amazing what they've been able to accomplish with so little.  It has nothing to do with the Cubs, or any other team's, payroll or accomplishments.

[🏀]

I think the Brewers have had an incredible season, and in my opinion citing payroll cheapens it, as if you needed something else to justify the results.

[jsglow]

I think the payroll is key.  It's a reason to believe that the currently 'controlled' line-up has a very bright future.  Just look at the core of the pitching staff.  The ONLY way the Crew wins if is they have home grown talent.

[WI inferiority Complexes]

The Brewers could not give 15% of their payroll to Matt Garza.  That may help.

[jsglow]

The Brewers could not give 15% of their payroll to Matt Garza.  That may help.

Next year they won't.

[WI inferiority Complexes]

The ONLY way the Crew wins if is they have home grown talent.

AND they could pay up.  The Brewers had a Top 10 payroll as recently as 2012. 

[jsglow]

AND they could pay up.  The Brewers had a Top 10 payroll as recently as 2012.

Yes, selectively.

[#UnleashSean]

You all battle over the dumbest things...

The Brewers are a young team with a decent farm system. They have way outperformed what they were supposed to do and made the nl central a competitive division.

However it's baseball. Some teams that are really really good can go cold for an entire season (the cubs). And it's the same the other way. Some teams get really hot for a year and then go back to non competitive. It's the multi year strings that really make a team (cards). If you can get success 3/4 years your team is insane.

I believe the most fatal flaw for Milwaukee was Sterns not trading away thames while he had value.

[wadesworld]

You all battle over the dumbest things...

The Brewers are a young team with a decent farm system. They have way outperformed what they were supposed to do and made the nl central a competitive division.

However it's baseball. Some teams that are really really good can go cold for an entire season (the cubs). And it's the same the other way. Some teams get really hot for a year and then go back to non competitive. It's the multi year strings that really make a team (cards). If you can get success 3/4 years your team is insane.

I believe the most fatal flaw for Milwaukee was Sterns not trading away thames while he had value.

Thames never had value beyond mid level minor league talent.  He definitely was not going to bring in needle moving talent in return.  No GM who wants to keep their job trades away pieces for one month of a complete unknown, especially one that is returning from overseas after being absolutely nothing prior to going overseas.  GMs didn't get where they are by accident.  There's a reason you don't see a bunch of trades going down in the first month of the season.  Nobody knows what they have until close to midseason.  Thames is included in that.  He was incredible for the first month, but nobody is going to be jumping at the chance to trade for a guy who had a hot first month with absolutely no book out on him.

[Jockey]

You all battle over the dumbest things...

The Brewers are a young team with a decent farm system. They have way outperformed what they were supposed to do and made the nl central a competitive division.

However it's baseball. Some teams that are really really good can go cold for an entire season (the cubs). And it's the same the other way. Some teams get really hot for a year and then go back to non competitive. It's the multi year strings that really make a team (cards). If you can get success 3/4 years your team is insane.

I believe the most fatal flaw for Milwaukee was Sterns not trading away thames while he had value.

"Really, really good" teams do not go cold for an entire season. Not with a 162 game schedule.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I do know the facts, the payroll is currently almost $83 million. Opening Day is different.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/milwaukee-brewers/payroll/

$14.5 million is signing bonuses spent on rookies.  So $68.5 million is more accurate of what the major league  payroll is.  That also accounts for "buried" minor league salaries and deferred money.  Active payroll is $57.5 million.