Tourney after SJU loss?

[Marquette4life]

Sorry, I couldn't find the past thread for this, but do you guys think after the loss that marquette still should make the tourney?

rockys edit: changed the title.

[rocky_warrior]

As of today?  Yes.  But we still need 5 more wins to feel comfortable by the end of the season.

[MUfan12]

I had this one as a loss, as well as @GU and @X. Creighton's performance last night might make me reevaluate that game.

At this point, I just want them to beat DePaul.

[jesmu84]

What's up with all the question threads? Especially concerning topics discussed elsewhere

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Put it this way. Pretty much everyone had us 2-3 over the past 5. Thing is, we won 2 we didn't think we would, and lost 2 we maybe should have won. But at the be of the day, the Nova win is like gold, and @ Creighton is still a huge W. we're in better shape than we would have been with wins over PC and SJU.

That said, we need to turn a corner quick. Next five are very winnable, but need to get 4 to be feeling good going into the final 3 with 9 wins in hand.

Tonight was bad.

[muguru]

Stick a fork in them..they are done. They are obviously content with beating Nova as their highlight for this year. No one can say there are plenty of wins left on the schedule...umm, did you just miss the last two games?? You know, the two they lost to freaking PC(at home) and SJU, two of the WORST teams in the BE. Sure, they beat Nova and Creighton and maybe weren't supposed to, but they did..so what?? You absolutely HAVE to beat the teams you are supposed to beat regardless of if you won two you maybe shouldn't have. MU didnt do that these last two games. Should have won 4 straight now..

[ecompt]

Stick a fork in them..they are done. They are obviously content with beating Nova as their highlight for this year. No one can say there are plenty of wins left on the schedule...umm, did you just miss the last two games?? You know, the two they lost to freaking PC(at home) and SJU, two of the WORST teams in the BE. Sure, they beat Nova and Creighton and maybe weren't supposed to, but they did..so what?? You absolutely HAVE to beat the teams you are supposed to beat regardless of if you won two you maybe shouldn't have. MU didnt do that these last two games. Should have won 4 straight now..

A bit much. We are a one-trick pony that can beat a very good team when our shots are falling and our opponent is missing wide-open looks. If we are not hitting 45-50 percent of our threes, we have little chance. Our defense is abysmal, our ballhandling is sloppy  and we are way too weak on the boards.

[rocky_warrior]

No one can say there are plenty of wins left on the schedule...

There are plenty of wins left on the schedule.


BOOM!

[muguru]

There are plenty of wins left on the schedule.


BOOM!

If you can't beat PC and SJU..find me 5 more wins..Those were two that a vast majority would have had as 2 of the 5 they need to have. They just lost to two of the worst teams in the Big East Rocky. What's next? A loss at DuhPaul Saturday? Wouldnt surprise me in the least.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

If you can't beat PC and SJU..find me 5 more wins..Those were two that a vast majority would have had as 2 of the 5 they need to have. They just lost to two of the worst teams in the Big East Rocky. What's next? A loss at DuhPaul Saturday? Wouldnt surprise me in the least.

Cya next season!

[rocky_warrior]

I'll guarantee a win @ DePaul.  You folks are smoking something good tonight.

[Warrior of Law]

A loss to DePaul means wait-til-next-year....again.

[PGsHeroes32]

Stick a fork in them..they are done. They are obviously content with beating Nova as their highlight for this year. No one can say there are plenty of wins left on the schedule...umm, did you just miss the last two games?? You know, the two they lost to freaking PC(at home) and SJU, two of the WORST teams in the BE. Sure, they beat Nova and Creighton and maybe weren't supposed to, but they did..so what?? You absolutely HAVE to beat the teams you are supposed to beat regardless of if you won two you maybe shouldn't have. MU didnt do that these last two games. Should have won 4 straight now..

And people think I'm bad

[GoldenDieners32]

Heads are still caught up in the " Marquette upsets #1 Villanova" talk

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Marquette won two they weren't supposed to, lost two they weren't supposed to. Back to square one. Go 5-3 the rest of the way and they get in.

A lesson many fans never seem to grasp. One game does not forecast the rest of the season. Marquette's win against Nova did not mean we were going to play at the level the rest of the way. Marquette's loss tonight does not mean we will play that way for the rest of the season. Most nights, we will be somewhere in between.

[PGsHeroes32]

Marquette won two they weren't supposed to, lost two they weren't supposed to. Back to square one. Go 5-3 the rest of the way and they get in.

A lesson many fans never seem to grasp. One game does not forecast the rest of the season. Marquette's win against Nova did not mean we were going to play at the level the rest of the way. Marquette's loss tonight does not mean we will play that way for the rest of the season. Most nights, we will be somewhere in between.

But can we go 5-3 the rest of the way?

I think what we are seeing is if anything it's 4-4. Jekyl and Hyde win some you shouldn't, lose some you shouldn't.

So it's looking like BET round 1 will be the do or die game

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

But can we go 5-3 the rest of the way?

Yes. This team's ceiling is high enough to go 8-0 the rest of the way. Is that likely? No. But our performance tonight has no bearing on how we will perform in the remaining 8.

[MUfan12]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=310642550

MU got pasted by a below average Hall team and it looked like there was no chance to make the tourney. They won two in NYC, and got in with 14(!) losses due to a really soft bubble.

I know the league is different, but that was a far more dire situation than the one MU is in now. Hopefully tonight taught them a lesson and they finish strong.

[Marquette4life]

I still think we need 20 wins. Do u guys agree

[ATWizJr]

The two game performance against Creighton and 'Nova was an obvious happy blip. 

We've crested the hill, are on the way down and picking up speed.  reality sucks. 

[frozena pizza]

To go 5-3 they only need to win their home games and get one road win out of DePaul, Providence and GTown.  Certainly not impossible, but Saturday is pretty huge.  Anyone expecting us to win easily at DePaul simply hasn't been paying attention.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The two game performance against Creighton and 'Nova was an obvious happy blip. 

We've crested the hill, are on the way down and picking up speed.  reality sucks.

Not happy blips. High water marks. They along with vandy represent when our team is playing near their ceiling. Michigan and St Johns are low water marks where our team is playing near their floor. Most nights we will end up somewhere in the middle.

Every game is an individual, isolated experience. Us losing to St. Johns has zero bearing on how well play against Depaul on Saturday. We could play near our ceiling and blow them out. Or play near our floor and lose by a few. Part of the fun and stress of being a college basketball fan.

[muwarrior69]

Please let's not talk tourney until we have at least 10 conference wins.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I still think we need 20 wins. Do u guys agree

No.  10-8 gets us to 19-11, and a likely date with X or Creighton in the first round BE tournament.  I don't think MU needs to win that game to get in.  If they finish 9-9, they may still finish in 5th or 6th place, and will likely still play one of X or Creighton in the first round.  They may need that win at 9-9, but honestly, I think MU may still be able to sneak into the last four in at 9-9 due to the Nova win.  That is going to be a better win than anyone else considered for the last 4 in has.

That said, our RPI needs work.  Dropped down to 68 after last nights win.  Obviously depends on who we beat, but most scenarios have a 9 win Marquette team in the mid-60's, 10 wins in the 50's, and 11 wins in the mid 40s.  These numbers are all prior to the BET. 

Please let's not talk tourney until we have at least 10 conference wins.

Lol...don't go into a thread about the tourney if you don't want to talk about it.  Literally all I care about this season is getting into the tourney. 

[4everwarriors]

Watt's relevant here is da team's trend goin' forward. It don't matta ta beat Creighton and Nova when ya go all soil yourself against PC and St. Johns. More importantly, can Wojo write da ship? Could get motherfookin' ugly, ai na?