wojos offense

[Let's Go Warriors]

Just want to be fair. As critical as I and some have been here about his defense. That offense was literally spectacular at times yesterday. U watch that game and even if they had missed some of.those 3s. The passing was great and at times making the extra pass for better shots. Very nice...

Team is gelling offensively. A sign of good coaching.

[GGGG]

The team's three best shooters, both in terms of 3FG% and EFG%, made their debut in Marquette uniforms this year.  That helps tremendously.  He's getting the type of players he wants.

[tower912]

Playing unselfishly makes a lot of offenses look good.    Playing selfishly makes a lot of offenses look bad.     MU has generally been unselfish, with a few glaring exceptions.    The ball movement is very good, though, IMO, not quite on the level of the 09-10 midget team.   I have fond memories of watching defenders literally spinning in place trying to follow the drives and dishes that year.    As long as they keep making the extra pass to the wide open shooter as part of the offense, the offense will be fine.   

[TheREALwrk]

I truly believe that JJJ is the most selfish player on this team. He hardly ever makes the extra pass, never passes up an open 3 and his drives to the rim have been weaker and weaker.

I think we are better off with him on the bench, even though he stuffs the stat sheet. Make me think otherwise?

[Let's Go Warriors]

Playing unselfishly makes a lot of offenses look good.    Playing selfishly makes a lot of offenses look bad.     MU has generally been unselfish, with a few glaring exceptions.    The ball movement is very good, though, IMO, not quite on the level of the 09-10 midget team.   I have fond memories of watching defenders literally spinning in place trying to follow the drives and dishes that year.    As long as they keep making the extra pass to the wide open shooter as part of the offense, the offense will be fine.

starting to buy in to wojo. I see improvements on d. They r slow but obvious. The offense being willing to move the ball and late into the clock can only help.

They need to steal one or two from the top 4 and the tournament is realistic. But those wins will be tuff to come by.

[Let's Go Warriors]

I truly believe that JJJ is the most selfish player on this team. He hardly ever makes the extra pass, never passes up an open 3 and his drives to the rim have been weaker and weaker.

I think we are better off with him on the bench, even though he stuffs the stat sheet. Make me think otherwise?

I can see where people would think that. Getting college kids to not only buy in but understand what is needed is tuff at times. It's a split second decision to jump stop and pass vs go all the way. Not everyone can grasp it. Not sure if it's selfish or he is just not suited to it....

[TheREALwrk]

I can see where people would think that. Getting college kids to not only buy in but understand what is needed is tuff at times. It's a split second decision to jump stop and pass vs go all the way. Not everyone can grasp it. Not sure if it's selfish or he is just not suited to it....

Maybe you are right... maybe it is isn't selfish, maybe he just doesn't get it. Either way, I'm starting to like us more and more with him on the bench.

[Let's Go Warriors]

Maybe you are right... maybe it is isn't selfish, maybe he just doesn't get it. Either way, I'm starting to like us more and more with him on the bench.

I agree. He takes a lot of chances on d too. Leaves mu 4 v 5 and an un challenged wing heading straight at luke.

[Jay Bee]

I truly believe that JJJ is the most selfish player on this team. He hardly ever makes the extra pass, never passes up an open 3 and his drives to the rim have been weaker and weaker.

I think we are better off with him on the bench, even though he stuffs the stat sheet. Make me think otherwise?

If we want to stick with facts, here's one for you to consider: JjJ's assist rate is the highest of anyone on the entire roster.

[naginiF]

I agree. He takes a lot of chances on d too. Leaves mu 4 v 5 and an un challenged wing heading straight at luke.

what am i missing - he's 11th in the nation in steals and 2nd on the team in APG (not including Traci C's).  Seems like he has a LOT of positive contributions on the floor.

Is it just perception of the viewer or is there something concrete to point at?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

If we want to stick with facts, here's one for you to consider: JjJ's assist rate is the highest of anyone on the entire roster.

Facts on scoop? Please.

Besides the obvious assist rate statistic, even from an objective perspective its pretty easy to see that JJJ is the best passer on the team.

[Let's Go Warriors]

what am i missing - he's 11th in the nation in steals and 2nd on the team in APG (not including Traci C's).  Seems like he has a LOT of positive contributions on the floor.

Is it just perception of the viewer or is there something concrete to point at?

in saw at least 3x yesterday when he went for a steal and missed. Leaving mu 4 v 5 on d. They all resulted in an easy basket or a foul. This happens a bunch in other games too.

There is no stat for that so no...

[TheREALwrk]

what am i missing - he's 11th in the nation in steals and 2nd on the team in APG (not including Traci C's).  Seems like he has a LOT of positive contributions on the floor.

Is it just perception of the viewer or is there something concrete to point at?

Totally get 11th in the nation in steals but how many times does he gamble and miss?

2nd onf the team in APG... Everyone is below 3 APG so it's nothing to write home about...

All I'm saying is, and I understand that perhaps the stats say otherwise, our team is better with JJJ off the floor. Maybe it's not true. I think it is. I'd love to see Duane/Katin/Rowsey get more of JJJs minutes.

[TheREALwrk]

Facts on scoop? Please.

Besides the obvious assist rate statistic, even from an objective perspective its pretty easy to see that JJJ is the best passer on the team.

Even from an Objective perspective? So it's a concrete fact that he's the best passer on the team? No shot.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Even from an Objective perspective? So it's a concrete fact that he's the best passer on the team? No shot.

Subjective but semantics aside point remains the same. Just curious, how many games have you watched the past two years?

[warriorchick]

in saw at least 3x yesterday when he went for a steal and missed. Leaving mu 4 v 5 on d. They all resulted in an easy basket or a foul. This happens a bunch in other games too.

There is no status for that so no...

JjJ is leading the Big East in average steals per game, and he is crushing everyone else.  He has 2.5, while the #2 person has 1.9.  You aren't going to get that many steals if you don't occasionally take risks and miss a few.

While you are at it, why don't you talk about how much M2N sucks?  After all, he missed 3 of his 3-point attempts yesterday.

[LAMUfan]

Hating on jjj is dumb, he makes the occasional boneheaded play sure, but is a major positive overall

[TheREALwrk]

Subjective but semantics aside point remains the same. Just curious, how many games have you watched the past two years?

Probably every single game, barring a few non-con cupcakes.

[brandx]

I truly believe that JJJ is the most selfish player on this team. He hardly ever makes the extra pass, never passes up an open 3 and his drives to the rim have been weaker and weaker.

Wow! Shooting open threes? That should never happen. He should wait till someone comes out to contest the shot before he lets it fly.

The entire basis of MUs offense - any team for that matter - is to get open shots.

[TheREALwrk]

JjJ is leading the Big East in average steals per game, and he is crushing everyone else.  He has 2.5, while the #2 person has 1.9.  You aren't going to get that many steals if you don't occasionally take risks and miss a few.

While you are at it, why don't you talk about how much M2N sucks?  After all, he missed 3 of his 3-point attempts yesterday.

He's also crushing everybody else on MU with a whopping 2.5 turnovers/game, while the next is 1.6.

[TheREALwrk]

Wow! Shooting open threes? That should never happen. He should wait till someone comes out to contest the shot before he lets it fly.

The entire basis of MUs offense - any team for that matter - is to get open shots.

JJJ shoots a lousy 32% from outside while shooting 50% overall... let's have him get some higher percentage shots, it's what I would like to see.

[HoopsterBC]

Hating on jjj is dumb, he makes the occasional boneheaded play sure, but is a major positive overall

JJJ is an interesting player, some days you love him, most you question what he is doing out there.  I would say, coaching, has advised him he can not go left everytime.
But unfortunately he does and turnovers happen.   Much like Cheatham, he has to make the extra pass, which as a senior he does not. Reinhardt lets the game flow to him, JJJ creates his own mistakes most of the time.  I am positive he is not Wojo type player, way to in consistent.  What concerns me about him, if the game is close,
he thinks he can be the man, he is not that for sure.  He made 2 good shots against Hall in overtime, if he plays that way, MU could win a game or two against the elite
4.

[warriorchick]

He's also crushing everybody else on MU with a whopping 2.5 turnovers/game, while the next is 1.6.

That statistic is completely unrelated to both your original statement and my response. 

[TheREALwrk]

That statistic is completely unrelated to both your original statement and my response.

Fits perfectly with my original statement: "Better with him on the bench"

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

21 posts and 2/3 of them are dissing JJJ and the rest are "insider info" about Shaka. Tell me did JJJ steal your girl or something?