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Quote from: warriorchick on January 15, 2017, 11:31:22 AM
JjJ is leading the Big East in average steals per game, and he is crushing everyone else.  He has 2.5, while the #2 person has 1.9.  You aren't going to get that many steals if you don't occasionally take risks and miss a few.

While you are at it, why don't you talk about how much M2N sucks?  After all, he missed 3 of his 3-point attempts yesterday.
he hurts as least as much as he helps on d. 3 pt attempt is not related to these posts in the least.
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TheREALwrk

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 15, 2017, 12:01:59 PM
21 posts and 2/3 of them are dissing JJJ and the rest are "insider info" about Shaka. Tell me did JJJ steal your girl or something?

LOL! Stopped posting after that whole ordeal because if you challange scoop's majority opinion you have to deal with ad hominem attacks like this all the time. I think JJJ sucks, sue me! Might have to go back to lurking for a while.

GGGG

Quote from: TheREALwrk on January 15, 2017, 12:16:15 PM
LOL! Stopped posting after that whole ordeal because if you challange scoop's majority opinion you have to deal with ad hominem attacks like this all the time. I think JJJ sucks, sue me! Might have to go back to lurking for a while.


Well, you were "attacked" because you kept insisting that Shaka was on campus but that was never the case. 

BTW, JJJ isn't great but he doesn't suck.  I mean, who would you play in his place and why?

TheREALwrk

Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 15, 2017, 12:24:22 PM
Well, you were "attacked" because you kept insisting that Shaka was on campus but that was never the case. 

BTW, JJJ isn't great but he doesn't suck.  I mean, who would you play in his place and why?

Shaka was on campus, but no one can prove either way now.

I'd love to see Duane (can shoot better, not a bad passer and plays better defense), Katin (can shoot better, probably ~same defense) and Rowsey (get Howard/Rowsey out there at the same time, move Haniif to 3) and see if you can't light it up from the 3pt line for a little.

Duane and Rowsey are the least viable of those options as it leaves Cheatham playing an unfamiliar role as a 3 guard and Katin seems to be reigning in his chucking, taking, and making, better shots.

I would love to run and gun with Rowsey/Howard/Cheatham though... that would be fun.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: TheREALwrk on January 15, 2017, 11:01:08 AM
I truly believe that JJJ is the most selfish player on this team. He hardly ever makes the extra pass, never passes up an open 3 and his drives to the rim have been weaker and weaker.

I think we are better off with him on the bench, even though he stuffs the stat sheet. Make me think otherwise?

JJJ is definitely maddening at times

But this is so unbelievably wrong. Do you watch the games?
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

GGGG

Quote from: TheREALwrk on January 15, 2017, 12:31:38 PM
Shaka was on campus, but no one can prove either way now.

He was not.  Continuing to insist otherwise makes you look dumb.


Quote from: TheREALwrk on January 15, 2017, 12:31:38 PM
I'd love to see Duane (can shoot better, not a bad passer and plays better defense), Katin (can shoot better, probably ~same defense) and Rowsey (get Howard/Rowsey out there at the same time, move Haniif to 3) and see if you can't light it up from the 3pt line for a little.

Duane and Rowsey are the least viable of those options as it leaves Cheatham playing an unfamiliar role as a 3 guard and Katin seems to be reigning in his chucking, taking, and making, better shots.

I would love to run and gun with Rowsey/Howard/Cheatham though... that would be fun.

Duane's minutes have been going up at the expense of JJJ's recently.  He is a better defender.  But he hasn't been a better shooter than JJJ for the last two seasons.

I think the concern with Rowsey and Howard on the floor at the same time is size defensively.  Duane and JJJ give you more length. 

Loose Cannon

Quote from: LAMUfan on January 15, 2017, 11:32:30 AM
Hating on jjj is dumb, he makes the occasional boneheaded play sure, but is a major positive overall

JJ is just like Luke he is who he is, it's up to Wojo to play them in spots where their  Strengths and Weakness are most beneficial to us.  And I think Wojo is doing a Good job at that.
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brewcity77

JJ has frustrated the hell out of me for many reasons over his career, but he's absolutely instrumental to our success. He is a phenomenal passer, excellent driver, and one of the best in the country at creating turnovers. When we need a burst of energy, no one on the roster is as capable of stealing the ball and throwing down a monster dunk at the other end that brings the BC and team to life. He's an adequate three-point shooter and good at the line, so there's no real weakness in his scoring ability. While he doesn't go left, his pull-up gives him options off the drive that other players (Cheatham) simply do not have.

Is he the complete package? No. Is he a great man defender? No. Does he sometimes try to do a bit too much? Sure. But we would be a worse team without him. He is definitely more of a "Buzz player" and doesn't match Wojo's system as well as some others do, but he's also highly talented and someone we need on this roster. If we are going to make the NCAA Tournament and have any real success this year, he will be a big part of that.

Yesterday was only the 4th time this year he didn't score in double figures and also the 4th time he didn't have multiple steals. It was the 2nd time he didn't have multiple assists. On only 4 occasions has he not had at least 3 rebounds. On a nightly basis, you know that JJ is going to fill the stat sheet and will do numerous things to help us win. I'm very pleased with what he's developed into. He is maybe the best 4-year high school player Buzz ever recruited, with the only possible exception being Davante Gardner.

forgetful

Quote from: Loose Cannon on January 15, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
JJ is just like Luke he is who he is, it's up to Wojo to play them in spots where their  Strengths and Weakness are most beneficial to us.  And I think Wojo is doing a Good job at that.

+1

MU82

I like having JJJ on the team. He is exasperating at times, but at times so are Rowsey, Haani, Luke, Heldt, Duane, Katin, etc. They are young'uns. They make mistakes sometimes.

On D, JJJ is a high-risk, high-reward guy. There were a couple of games this season where he turned momentum to MU for good thanks to a flurry of steals. When he misses, he does look bad and he often puts his teammates in bad predicaments.

On O, he is the best passer on the team and is the only guy who can consistently hit the pull-up J from the elbow. His whirling-dervish thing often gets him in trouble with offensive fouls or bad passes, but again, you live with it because he also can hit two big shots in OT in a game you desperately need to win. He shot 40%+ from 3PT last season so that has fallen off some this year, but not tragically so.

A net plus. Some games, a net major plus. A few games a net minus - as has been the case with pretty much every Warrior this season.
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Quote from: MU82 on January 15, 2017, 09:56:43 PM
I like having JJJ on the team. He is exasperating at times, but at times so are Rowsey, Haani, Luke, Heldt, Duane, Katin, etc. They are young'uns. They make mistakes sometimes.

On D, JJJ is a high-risk, high-reward guy. There were a couple of games this season where he turned momentum to MU for good thanks to a flurry of steals. When he misses, he does look bad and he often puts his teammates in bad predicaments.

On O, he is the best passer on the team and is the only guy who can consistently hit the pull-up J from the elbow. His whirling-dervish thing often gets him in trouble with offensive fouls or bad passes, but again, you live with it because he also can hit two big shots in OT in a game you desperately need to win. He shot 40%+ from 3PT last season so that has fallen off some this year, but not tragically so.

A net plus. Some games, a net major plus. A few games a net minus - as has been the case with pretty much every Warrior this season.

I agree with this analysis.

Mr. Sand-Knit

The thing i like is we have options to jjj this year.  He can be really good but he also makes many really poor decisions.  The nice thing this year is everytime jjj does something really dumb duane or kation walk to the scorers table.  The bench can be the best coach. 
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WarriorFan

Over 4 years JJJ has improved more than I ever imagined.  His 3 point shot is reliable, and his pull-up J is really good.  he can really get up, and shoot over people.  His D is high risk-high reward, but the payoff has been working so far.  Cheatham is a more consistent defender, JJJ is a more steal oriented defender.  If he was a junior, I'd be very much looking forward to his senior season. 
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MUBigDance

Jjj is a real asset. Details in many posts above.

I just wish he'd get rid of that heads down drive to the right cradling the ball in his arm..."on a wing and a prayer" hoping the lane will be open.
I hate that turnover.....which it is more often than not. From that drive he is NOT a good passer.

Don't get me wrong, I love his drive to the right WHEN HE KEEPS HIS HEAD UP and knows his options after he commits.

That's my only fault with JJJ.

MU82

Quote from: MUBigDance on January 15, 2017, 11:41:55 PM
Jjj is a real asset. Details in many posts above.

I just wish he'd get rid of that heads down drive to the right cradling the ball in his arm..."on a wing and a prayer" hoping the lane will be open.
I hate that turnover.....which it is more often than not. From that drive he is NOT a good passer.

Don't get me wrong, I love his drive to the right WHEN HE KEEPS HIS HEAD UP and knows his options after he commits.

That's my only fault with JJJ.

Very fair.
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brewcity77

Quote from: TheREALwrk on January 15, 2017, 12:31:38 PMShaka was on campus, but no one can prove either way now.

This is false. Even the people saying done deal didn't claim this. Marquette reached out to Shaka, got positive feedback, then flew out to interview him in Richmond. He never came here.

The only coaches on campus during the process as I recall were Wojo, Brian Wardle, and Cuonzo Martin. Job was expected to go to Martin, but he didn't have a good interview, while Wojo knocked it out of the park.

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