Heldt

[Afroman]

If Matt Heldt played in a game featuring all of the walk-ons from the Big East, would he dominate?

[skianth16]

Guaranteed he'd foul out

[forgetful]

If Matt Heldt played in a game featuring all of the walk-ons from the Big East, would he dominate?

Well he just scored 4 points and grabbed 4 offensive rebounds in a handful of minutes against the starters for the number 1 team in the nation.

Pretty sure he would dominate.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If Matt Heldt played in a game featuring all of the walk-ons from the Big East, would he dominate?

??? Thought he played decent tonight. 4 boards, good effort, drew four fouls. He's never going to be dominate but he could be a Chris Otule type player.

[ecompt]

Heldt showed more effort in those two minutes than Fish did all night.

[mubb3434]

Wojo should start Heldt on Wednesday to put a chip on Luke's shoulder. At least Matt plays tough. Fischer has been so weak...

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

I dont think there is any putting a chip on fischers shoulder.  He just doesnt have it, hs soft n physically n mentally a step behind good players. 
Fischer n jjj at most times look like they have never played before  and are two of the worst bball IQ players inhave ever seen, unfortunately they r the ones who are supposed to lead

[WarriorFan]

Heldt is a better defender than fisher
Heldt is a good enough FT shooter
Heldt is better at boxing out than fisher
Heldt gets offensive rebounds.  Fisher doesn't.
Heldt hustles.  Fisher doesn't.
Fisher tries to dribble and turns it over, Heldt doesn't.
Heldt's maximum offensive output is probably 5-7 ppg.  Fisher's max is 15-18 ppg, but what fisher gives up on D more than makes up for the scoring deficit.  In fact, in the BEAST, Fisher is only good for a max of 10-12ppg.

[GGGG]

Let's not read too much into garbage time. 

[Dawson Rental]

If Matt Heldt played in a game featuring all of the walk-ons from the Big East, would he dominate?

Guaranteed he'd foul out

Here's a hint, hold off on smoking the ganga until after you post.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Heldt is a better defender than fisher Not by any statistical measure. But his defense isn't half bad
Heldt is a good enough FT shooter Yes he is
Heldt is better at boxing out than fisher I think so but am not sure
Heldt gets offensive rebounds.  Fisher doesn't. Luke was 3rd in the Big East in OR% last season and is 2nd in the Big East in OR% this season. This simply is not true
Heldt hustles.  Fisher doesn't. I might agree with this. Part of that is Luke having to protect himself against fouls.
Fisher tries to dribble and turns it over, Heldt doesn't. Have you ever seen Heldt try to move with the ball? Luke is much better.
Heldt's maximum offensive output is probably 5-7 ppg.  Fisher's max is 15-18 ppg, but what fisher gives up on D more than makes up for the scoring deficit.  In fact, in the BEAST, Fisher is only good for a max of 10-12ppg.

Let's not get carried away. Luke is currently a better player than Heldt is. His issue is one of toughness. If he can play with more toughness than he is one of the best centers in the Big East. I'm not sure that he can though.

[mubb3434]

Let's not read too much into garbage time.

This is how it's been all year. Heldt does not have the offensive ability of Fischer, but Fischer has proven he is too soft to play an impactful role in the Big East. He's getting eaten alive.

[Dawson Rental]

Let's not get carried away. Luke is currently a better player than Heldt is. His issue is one of toughness. If he can play with more toughness than he is one of the best centers in the Big East. I'm not sure that he can though.

IMO, Luke is there physically, its mental toughness that he lacks.  I'd be very surprised if his field goal % hasn't dropped by quite a bit in Big East play.  I really think that against tough competition, he loses focus.

[GGGG]

This is how it's been all year. Heldt does not have the offensive ability of Fischer, but Fischer has proven he is too soft to play an impactful role in the Big East. He's getting eaten alive.

So would Heldt.

I would rather go small against a team like Nova.  Not against Seton Hall though.

[Dawson Rental]

So would Heldt.

I would rather go small against a team like Nova.  Not against Seton Hall though.

Good insight, I definitely agree.

[skianth16]

Here's a hint, hold off on smoking the ganga until after you post.

Coming into tonight's game, Heldt had 31 fouls in 154 minutes. That puts him at 3rd on the team in fouls (behind Fischer's 43 and Hauser's 32) while being dead last by a wide margin in minutes, excluding our walk-ons.

[Jay Bee]

MU 15/17 FT shooting tonight. Heldt with the only two misses. MAJOR ISSUE.

FT's no matta.

Markus 2 NBA.

[Jay Bee]

Coming into tonight's game, Heldt had 31 fouls in 154 minutes. That puts him at 3rd on the team in fouls (behind Fischer's 43 and Hauser's 32) while being dead last by a wide margin in minutes, excluding our walk-ons.

Or put another way..

Matt averages 8.0 fouls per 40 minutes. Outside of Deon, no one else is above 4.8 (where Luke is... Hauser is a fine 3.6).

[Dawson Rental]

Coming into tonight's game, Heldt had 31 fouls in 154 minutes. That puts him at 3rd on the team in fouls (behind Fischer's 43 and Hauser's 32) while being dead last by a wide margin in minutes, excluding our walk-ons.

What we're missing is Heldt's foul statistics against teams of walk-ons.  Maybe you're right, maybe those 6' 3" unathletic centers can be a bitch.

[Dawson Rental]

MU 15/17 FT shooting tonight. Heldt with the only two misses. MAJOR ISSUE.

FT's no matta.

Markus 2 NBA.

Why'd ya hafta go and make a bad night, worse?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

What we're missing is Heldt's foul statistics against teams of walk-ons.  Maybe you're right, maybe those 6' 3" unathletic centers can be a bitch.

Yeah, but how many kindergarteners could heldt fight at one time?

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Yeah, but how many kindergarteners could heldt fight at one time?

I think 12

[Loose Cannon]

It's not all about Stats.  Sometimes it's the impact ( Real or Perceived) on  your Teammates.

[GoldenDieners32]

The first 3 BE games i think Heldt has played better than fish

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Heldt is a better defender than fisher
Heldt is a good enough FT shooter
Heldt is better at boxing out than fisher
Heldt gets offensive rebounds.  Fisher doesn't.
Heldt hustles.  Fisher doesn't.
Fisher tries to dribble and turns it over, Heldt doesn't.
Heldt's maximum offensive output is probably 5-7 ppg.  Fisher's max is 15-18 ppg, but what fisher gives up on D more than makes up for the scoring deficit.  In fact, in the BEAST, Fisher is only good for a max of 10-12ppg.

Who the fook is Fisher?