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Quote from: forgetful on December 16, 2016, 01:45:16 PM
I was under the impression that the PAC12 got rid of penalties for intra-conference transfer.  Because of that I had posted that I'd be shocked if he isn't going to Washington (home) or Oregon (with his sister).

Gonzaga would also be an option.

Here you go: http://compliance.pac-12.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Pac-12-Intra-Conference-Transfer-Primer.pdf

If I'm reading this correctly, he could transfer to another PAC 12 school but would have to sit a year in residence and would lose a year of eligibility. Not sure how this combines with the mid-season transfer rule. Would he have 2.5 years left? Or 1.5?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


muwarrior97

If you listen to the MU Basketball Hour podcast w/Homer from 12/15 Wojo touched on this topic and was pretty clear that his opinion was probably similar to many on this board......its all about the PT or lack thereof, certainly not isolated to MU and Wojo, I liked both players but clearly they wanted out so Good Luck to them both and Let's Go Warriors!

All this bitchin' about Wojo and transfers is silly, how much did we miss out on the court when Jamal Ferguson transferred or Reggie Smith or Jamail Jones, or etc etc etc let's just get back to enjoying Marquette Hoops, root for the squad that remains and works to rep the school
#RGV #ReturnTheWarriorMindset

brandx

Quote from: muwarrior97 on December 16, 2016, 03:52:23 PM
If you listen to the MU Basketball Hour podcast w/Homer from 12/15 Wojo touched on this topic and was pretty clear that his opinion was probably similar to many on this board......its all about the PT or lack thereof, certainly not isolated to MU and Wojo, I liked both players but clearly they wanted out so Good Luck to them both and Let's Go Warriors!

All this bitchin' about Wojo and transfers is silly, how much did we miss out on the court when Jamal Ferguson transferred or Reggie Smith or Jamail Jones, or etc etc etc let's just get back to enjoying Marquette Hoops, root for the squad that remains and works to rep the school

Completely agree. Let 'em go. I was a big Carter fan and think he has ability to help lead a mid-major to the dance, but he hjad no future here as a 30 minute guy. And that being the case, I fully support his decision to go elsewhere to get more PT.

Recruiting is a tricky business. If you have more than 8 healthy quality players, someone will be unhappy. It's just the way it is. These kids almost always base their school decisions on basketball. When thing change (PT-wise), there will be unhappy campers.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: mixINaWILSON on December 14, 2016, 03:31:44 PM
Traci was Cadougan 2.0.  This really sticks in my craw.

Wojo is a hack and a dink.   

Wait, you wanted Cadougan 2.0?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 14, 2016, 08:19:07 PM
Stop speculating.  Read the article, don't just "wonder" - learn!

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2016/12/14/traci-carter-leaves-mu-basketball-program/95438992/


  ok, i read the article and was going to just let you have your way, but no.  just because traci says he wants to be "closer to my family" doesn't mean that is the sole reason he is transferring.  i'm just using some critical thinking and it still makes me "wonder".  does it really matter?  nope.  even though my intentions are not to draw controversy, i believe it's ok to "wonder", just as many come here to do as well.   if traci was starting and getting 30 minutes of floor time, i'm going to "wonder" if we are even talking about this...not for very long however. 

  i am going to respect traci's word, but i am still going to "wonder".  i also wish him the best.  i  really enjoyed watching him play and i was very excited about his prospects here.  i trust wojo's instincts and i believe traci will have a nice career closer to home
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

MU82

Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 16, 2016, 07:03:00 PM

  ok, i read the article and was going to just let you have your way, but no.  just because traci says he wants to be "closer to my family" doesn't mean that is the sole reason he is transferring.  i'm just using some critical thinking and it still makes me "wonder".  does it really matter?  nope.  even though my intentions are not to draw controversy, i believe it's ok to "wonder", just as many come here to do as well.   if traci was starting and getting 30 minutes of floor time, i'm going to "wonder" if we are even talking about this...not for very long however. 

  i am going to respect traci's word, but i am still going to "wonder".  i also wish him the best.  i  really enjoyed watching him play and i was very excited about his prospects here.  i trust wojo's instincts and i believe traci will have a nice career closer to home

I ain't gonna wonder one iota.

He's gone, forgotten and somebody else's now.

Go Marquette!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

rocket surgeon

Quote from: MU82 on December 16, 2016, 07:13:29 PM
I ain't gonna wonder one iota.

He's gone, forgotten and somebody else's now.

Go Marquette!

absolutely!  actually i'm done wondering now...that was in more reference to when i initially submitted my post a couple days ago-GO WARRIORS!
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

ChitownSpaceForRent

At what point though does the identity of the team go beyond the players? I think Traci embodied the toughness of Marquette basketball that we didn't see since Jae and DJO.

Can any of you point to one person on the team that embodies that classic brand of MUBB that so many of you seem to fondly remember?

wadesworld

#208
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 16, 2016, 07:54:34 PM
At what point though does the identity of the team go beyond the players? I think Traci embodied the toughness of Marquette basketball that we didn't see since Jae and DJO.

Can any of you point to one person on the team that embodies that classic brand of MUBB that so many of you seem to fondly remember?

We were fine without it in 2002-2003. Unless Diener counts. In which case Rowsey and Reinhardt would count. And probably Markus as well.

avid1010

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 16, 2016, 07:54:34 PM
At what point though does the identity of the team go beyond the players? I think Traci embodied the toughness of Marquette basketball that we didn't see since Jae and DJO.

Can any of you point to one person on the team that embodies that classic brand of MUBB that so many of you seem to fondly remember?v
???  We didn't lose a Jae, Jimmy, Travis, DJO type player.  We lost Traci Carter...likely our 3rd best PG.  While I love their toughness...I think I'll take Wade over any of them.  Tough guys that ride the pine are easy to find if you think they add value to a team.  You shouldn't even need to use a scholairship to get that. 

brandx

I am thoroughly amused that you guys think Wade was not tough.

rocket surgeon

i thought jae was pretty tough.  he wasn't afraid to mix it up a little when he wasn't trailing for the cherry-picked "3"
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

keefe

Quote from: muwarrior97 on December 16, 2016, 03:52:23 PM

Reggie Smith

In his prime one of the finest men to patrol the outfield turf. Reggie Smiths don't just grow on trees


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rocket surgeon

Quote from: keefe on December 16, 2016, 10:33:16 PM
In his prime one of the finest men to patrol the outfield turf. Reggie Smiths don't just grow on trees

as long as we're on that one, storm'in gorman knocked down many a walls with his 10 lb. balls
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

keefe

Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 16, 2016, 10:44:41 PM
as long as we're on that one, storm'in gorman knocked down many a walls with his 10 lb. balls

He was a fixture in CF for Bambi's Bombers during my Marquette Experience. I remember he said fans paid to see him do three things: hit a homer, run into the wall, and strike out. He claimed he never failed to do at least two of those every game.

We ran into him in a German bar called Zur Krone. One of the things he told us was that if MLB put an AL franchise in Vancouver he was well and truly f#cked as he had multiple possible paternity suits waiting to happen in BC from his minor league days.

One of the genuinely most f#cking funny sonsabitches I have had the pleasure to drink beer with. As the evening wore on he grew progressively more concerned about how "Debbie" would greet him at home. We presumed "Debbie" was Mrs. Thomas but that was never made clear through the fog of Jagermeister.


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MU82

#215
I was fortunate to be at Marquette during the Brewers' glory years.

When I got there, they were one of the most entertaining teams anybody could watch: Yount, Molly, Sixto, Cooper, Thomas, Bando, Benji, Money. Wow, could that team pound the baseball!

In '81, my junior year, they made the big trade for Simmons, Fingers and Vuckovich and became a big-time contender. That was the year of huge labor strife and the season ended up being divided into "half-pennants." The Brewers lost to the Yankees in the first round of the playoffs.

My buddies and I used to love going to the ballpark and tailgate. A few times, we never made it into the game, but most of the time we did. We'd usually sit in the right-field bleachers, right above one of the exits so we didn't have anybody in front of us. I believe the seats cost $2.75, and they were great seats.

We all know what happened in '82. That was special for me because I got to cover the ALCS and the World Series as a kid only a few months out of college. Fun memories.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

real chili 83

Quote from: keefe on December 17, 2016, 02:39:56 AM
We ran into him in a German bar called Zur Krone.

Wonderful place.  The art of the boot.

Back in the late 80's we toured Sprecher in its early days.  They let us sample products for literally four hours.  We finished the day at Zur Krone.  Good times. 

real chili 83

Quote from: MU82 on December 17, 2016, 04:45:29 AM
I was fortunate to be at Marquette during the Brewers' glory years.

When I got there, they were one of the most entertaining teams anybody could watch: Yount, Molly, Sixto, Cooper, Thomas, Bando, Benji, Money. Wow, could that team pound the baseball!

In '81, my junior year, they made the big trade for Simmons, Fingers and Vuckovich and became a big-time contender. That was the year of huge labor strife and the season ended up being divided into "half-pennants." The Brewers lost to the Yankees in the first round of the playoffs.

My buddies and I used to love going to the ballpark and tailgate. A few times, we never made it into the game, but most of the time we did. We'd usually sit in the right-field bleachers, right above one of the exits so we didn't have anybody in front of us. I believe the seats cost $2.75, and they were great seats.

We all know what happened in '82. That was special for me because I got to cover the ALCS and the World Series as a kid only a few months out of college. Fun memories.

We snuck in two gallon milk jugs filled with beer from our tailgater.  Cheap college students. The ushers looked the other way.

The victory parade on Wisconsin ave when the Brewers won the NL pennant was a sight to behold. 

Slim

Quote from: MU82 on December 17, 2016, 04:45:29 AM
I was fortunate to be at Marquette during the Brewers' glory years.

When I got there, they were one of the most entertaining teams anybody could watch: Yount, Molly, Sixto, Cooper, Thomas, Bando, Benji, Money. Wow, could that team pound the baseball!

In '81, my junior year, they made the big trade for Simmons, Fingers and Vuckovich and became a big-time contender. That was the year of huge labor strife and the season ended up being divided into "half-pennants." The Brewers lost to the Yankees in the first round of the playoffs.

My buddies and I used to love going to the ballpark and tailgate. A few times, we never made it into the game, but most of the time we did. We'd usually sit in the right-field bleachers, right above one of the exits so we didn't have anybody in front of us. I believe the seats cost $2.75, and they were great seats.

We all know what happened in '82. That was special for me because I got to cover the ALCS and the World Series as a kid only a few months out of college. Fun memories.

I think I was there with you - wearing my "Uecker's Pukers" t-shirt!



GGGG

Quote from: real chili 83 on December 17, 2016, 06:53:09 AM
Wonderful place.  The art of the boot.

Unfortunately closed.  Right down the street from the Polish Moon.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 16, 2016, 07:03:00 PM

  ok, i read the article and was going to just let you have your way, but no.  just because traci says he wants to be "closer to my family" doesn't mean that is the sole reason he is transferring.  i'm just using some critical thinking and it still makes me "wonder".  does it really matter?  nope.  even though my intentions are not to draw controversy, i believe it's ok to "wonder", just as many come here to do as well.   if traci was starting and getting 30 minutes of floor time, i'm going to "wonder" if we are even talking about this...not for very long however. 

  i am going to respect traci's word, but i am still going to "wonder".  i also wish him the best.  i  really enjoyed watching him play and i was very excited about his prospects here.  i trust wojo's instincts and i believe traci will have a nice career closer to home

Man, you conspiracy theory people are weird. And losers.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: forgetful on December 16, 2016, 01:45:16 PM
I was under the impression that the PAC12 got rid of penalties for intra-conference transfer.  Because of that I had posted that I'd be shocked if he isn't going to Washington (home) or Oregon (with his sister).

Gonzaga would also be an option.

It used to be no transfers within the conference (direct or indirect) but now you can but the year you sit counts as a year of eligibility. So the ASU kid can move on to another Pac 12 school
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

vogue65

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on December 17, 2016, 11:16:26 AM
Man, you conspiracy theory people are weird. And losers.

Don't you know that critical thinking trumps facts and reality?

jpvegas

Quote from: muwarrior97 on December 16, 2016, 03:52:23 PM
If you listen to the MU Basketball Hour podcast w/Homer from 12/15 Wojo touched on this topic and was pretty clear that his opinion was probably similar to many on this board......its all about the PT or lack thereof, certainly not isolated to MU and Wojo, I liked both players but clearly they wanted out so Good Luck to them both and Let's Go Warriors!

All this bitchin' about Wojo and transfers is silly, how much did we miss out on the court when Jamal Ferguson transferred or Reggie Smith or Jamail Jones, or etc etc etc let's just get back to enjoying Marquette Hoops, root for the squad that remains and works to rep the school

Totally agree.  Wojo touched on that in another interview where he talked about his relationship with coach K. After his sophomore year he had an exit interview with Coach K and he was told that because of the talent they were bringing in and because of his commitment to basketball, he would be a back-up player.  Wojo didn't transfer and devoted himself to getting better that summer and was able to start at Duke. 
I believe that Wojo probably sat down with Sandy and Traci and told them what he saw their roles on the basketball team.  They didn't like what they were told and decided to transfer.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wojo-learned-coach/story?id=28411611

keefe

Quote from: MU82 on December 17, 2016, 04:45:29 AM
I was fortunate to be at Marquette during the Brewers' glory years.

When I got there, they were one of the most entertaining teams anybody could watch: Yount, Molly, Sixto, Cooper, Thomas, Bando, Benji, Money. Wow, could that team pound the baseball!

In '81, my junior year, they made the big trade for Simmons, Fingers and Vuckovich and became a big-time contender. That was the year of huge labor strife and the season ended up being divided into "half-pennants." The Brewers lost to the Yankees in the first round of the playoffs.

My buddies and I used to love going to the ballpark and tailgate. A few times, we never made it into the game, but most of the time we did. We'd usually sit in the right-field bleachers, right above one of the exits so we didn't have anybody in front of us. I believe the seats cost $2.75, and they were great seats.

We all know what happened in '82. That was special for me because I got to cover the ALCS and the World Series as a kid only a few months out of college. Fun memories.

We used to trek down to the Ain'a Hey Sports Palace often, especially in the summer. I am an O's fan and most of the Marquette crew I knew was from the old AL East which was stacked.

The Yankees, O's, Tigers, Brewers, and BoSox were all winning around 90 games each and the arguments among us were intense.

The season the Brewers won the pennant came down to the final weekend at Memorial Stadium where the O's needed a sweep to claim the East. The O's took the first two and a sell out crowd all brought brooms for the last day which the Brewers won.

A little known fact is that Glenn Rivers' cousin, Kenny Singleton, was a fixture on those O's teams. The O's had him, Cal, Eddie Murray, Dauer, Lowenstein, and disco Dan but it was their pitching which made them great for years. In 82 the O's had Palmer, Bodds, McGregor, Flanagan, Dennis Martinez, Storm Davis, Stewart, and Grimsley as starters with Tippy Martinez, Stoddard, and Stanhouse in the pen. Formidable.


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