Katin and team eFG%

[GGGG]

It wasn't hero ball.  It was in the flow of the offense.

Really if you were Wojo you wouldn't be pleased with that?

[MerrittsMustache]

If you know it won't work most of the time and is outside the natural flow of the offense, why would you want to encourage that? So hero ball is okay against IUPUI but not against UW? Well if they get used to it working against one team, won't that lead to even more of it the next time out?

Each game has a different gameplan because each opponent is different. Imagine that! If a player can drive to the rim against a team, he should. If the lanes are not there, he shouldn't. If MU was playing a team with no one over 6'4", should they not repeatedly feed the ball to Fischer because that wouldn't work against UW or Villanova?

Also, Katin is not a toddler. He's not going to think that getting away with something once means that he's going to be able to do it all the time.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

No.  Because that's not good basketball. 

And my argument is that driving down the lane out of control with the only successful outcome being if you get fouled because your shot has zero chance of actually going in is not good basketball either.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Ok. I stand corrected. He rides the pines. He I 3rd on the team in minutes  maybe 2nd. He is not wojo's boy. He has ridden "a lot of pine." You are always right.

He's fourth in minutes actually. Go back and look at the play by plays. Katin gets yanked after almost every bad shot.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

He's fourth in minutes actually. Go back and look at the play by plays. Katin gets yanked after almost every bad shot.

You and your silly facts.

It's a lot more fun to just pull stuff out of your ass and base your arguments on that rather than be constrained by reality.

[Marcus92]

What I'm most concerned about right now isn't Katin's shot selection. It's his shot.


He wasn't automatically shooting every time he got the ball. Probably forced a couple passes, but he's trying to find the open man. I thought every one of his three point attempts tonight was a really good look, several practically uncontested. But his feet look all wrong to me and most of his threes were well off line.


Hopefully Katin can figure it out. We need him to be able to knock down open shots.

[Jay Bee]

Katin is a perfect 14/14 on free throws. WHERE IS THE PRAISE FOR SAVING THIS TEAM??

[Newsdreams]

Katin is a perfect 14/14 on free throws. WHERE IS THE PRAISE FOR SAVING THIS TEAM??

Don't matter, hey?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What I'm most concerned about right now isn't Katin's shot selection. It's his shot.


He wasn't automatically shooting every time he got the ball. Probably forced a couple passes, but he's trying to find the open man. I thought every one of his three point attempts tonight was a really good look, several practically uncontested. But his feet look all wrong to me and most of his threes were well off line.


Hopefully Katin can figure it out. We need him to be able to knock down open shots.

I have never seen a player who needs a shot to go in more than Katin. At least in the second half all of his looks were wide open. No bad shots. He just couldn't buy a bucket.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

What I'm most concerned about right now isn't Katin's shot selection. It's his shot.

It's the frequency/usage for me.  Only 2 fewer attempts than Cheatham in 36 fewer minutes.

He doesn't have to be The Man on offense.  Unlike when Duane and Carlino were the only guys that could score consistently, Reinhardt has at least 7 other players around him that could go off for 20+ on any given night.

[fjm]

I am not a Katin fan... just because every time he has the ball, I scream NOOO so loudly internally.

Having said that, looking at past stats he can surely light it up. Is it possible Wojo is looking at these cupcakes and telling Katin to shoot, try and encourage him to find his groove and shoot out of his funk?

I hope so, otherwise he is going rogue.

[We R Final Four]

Kaitin yesterday......24 min 2-8 FG 0-6 3 pts 2 rebs 0 asts 4 fouls 6 points.

Season 16-58 FG 28% 7-28 3 pts 25% tied for most TOs at 10.

14-14 from the line. 

[auburnmarquette]

Yeah, his Value Add was 0.80 as a freshman, 2.02 as a soph and 2.76 as a junior, so he was on pace for a 3.0 in the current version 3 at www.valueaddbasketball.com. That is the dividing line of a solid starter vs. a reserve. That would make him the 6th most valuable player on the team behind Cheatham (improves MU by 8.15 points per game), Fischer 7.14, JJJ 6.44, Wilson 4.20 and Hauser 3.87.

However, so far he is just worth 1.11 additional points per game due to the poor shooting. Based on how few games he has played, I would be bullish on him being a key player during the season.

While his effective Field Goal % is a miserable 33% for us - look at his line only against Tier A opponents with the toughest defenses in the country his first three years - 46.8% as a fresh at UNLV, 56.1% and 50.8%. He will be a strong contributor, and based on looking solid in close losses against Utah in the Pac-12 tournament and Providence in the NCAA, he will be key as our only player who has been in an NCAA tournament game.

[Marcus92]

While his effective Field Goal % is a miserable 33% for us - look at his line only against Tier A opponents with the toughest defenses in the country his first three years - 46.8% as a fresh at UNLV, 56.1% and 50.8%. He will be a strong contributor, and based on looking solid in close losses against Utah in the Pac-12 tournament and Providence in the NCAA, he will be key as our only player who has been in an NCAA tournament game.

Watching Katin struggle so much with his shooting is frustrating. But I'd happily accept some ups and downs during the non-conference slate (even against UW) if Katin finds his form and becomes a trusted sharpshooter in time for the Big East conference schedule.