Bucks president has some thoughts on Milwaukee

[Pakuni]

"Very bluntly, Milwaukee is the most segregated, racist place I've ever experienced in my life. It just is a place that is antiquated. It is in desperate need of repair and has happened for a long, long time. One of our messages and one of our goals is to lead by example."

http://deadspin.com/bucks-president-milwaukee-is-the-most-segregated-rac-1787121559

[GGGG]

I love Milwaukee, and he may be exaggerating, but he's not wrong.

[mu03eng]

I don't want this to get too political too quick, but I will say this:

Milwaukee has segregation and racial issues to be sure that need to be resolved, but Peter Feigen might want to get out more if he thinks Milwaukee is the most racist place in America let alone in the world (sad I have to type this cause Milwaukee ain't good, but there are definitely worse places).

I will also say, it is at best disingenuous at worst full blown hypocrisy that:
-his entire ownership group and executive team with the exception of the HC are white males
-his ownership took $250 million from the most racist city he's ever been in, which potentially could have been used to do other things to better the city if his organization is so aghast at the state of race relations within Milwaukee.

[GGGG]

Well he didn't say it is the most racist place in America or the world.  He said it is the most racist place "he's experienced."

[mu03eng]

Well he didn't say it is the most racist place in America or the world.  He said it is the most racist place "he's experienced."

Hence my point that he needs to get out more

[Pakuni]

Hence my point that he needs to get out more

In all fairness to him, he's hardly the first to point out that Milwaukee is one of the, if not the, most segregated city in America. US Census figure show that Milwaukee and Detroit tie for the most segregated cities.

http://www.s4.brown.edu/us2010/Data/Report/report2.pdf

And, really, saying that "there are places worse in the world" is hardly a stirring defense for the city.

[Badgerhoney]

108 years

Last time Cubs won the World Series

Last time Milwaukee had a Republican mayor

http://newstalk1130.iheart.com/onair/common-sense-central-37717/milwaukee-a-democrat-disaster-108-years-15022787/


We aren't immune to it in Madison, either. 

[GGGG]

Look dude, cities have had similar problems ever since cities have existed.  The idea that this is simply because there is a Democratic mayor is talk show pablum for the WOW counties. 

[MUfan12]

"You people are a bunch of racists that are stuck in the past, but thanks for the arena and remember to own the future by buying a 10 game, half season, or full season ticket package!"

[mu03eng]

And, really, saying that "there are places worse in the world" is hardly a stirring defense for the city.

Defending the city is not my point.


If someone has a way to solve the segregation in the city, I'm all ears.

[Golden Avalanche]

Hence my point that he needs to get out more

How do you know where he's been?

[mu03eng]

How do you know where he's been?

It's math, Milwaukee is bad, there are places worse in the US...if he thinks Milwaukee is the worst then he hasn't been to other places.

He made the statement in Madison....which isn't exactly a bastion of inclusion and sensitivity contrary to what Madison would have you believe.

[Chili]

108 years

Last time Cubs won the World Series

Last time Milwaukee had a Republican mayor

http://newstalk1130.iheart.com/onair/common-sense-central-37717/milwaukee-a-democrat-disaster-108-years-15022787/


We aren't immune to it in Madison, either.

They weren't democrats until just post WWII - they were socialists. And people loved the city. Just saying.

[tower912]

Census data backs the first part of his statement.   The second part is his perception.    I am curious about the part about leading by example.    Having just done a shakedown of the city and state to keep the team in Milwaukee, I ponder what kind of example he has in mind going forward.   

[mu03eng]

Census data backs the first part of his statement.   The second part is his perception.    I am curious about the part about leading by example.    Having just done a shakedown of the city and state to keep the team in Milwaukee, I ponder what kind of example he has in mind going forward.

I agree with all of this.

edit to add:
One other thing I would point out is that Jabari Parker has been speaking out on this topic and I think he's done a great job of getting his viewpoint out. I wish Feigen had taken Jabari's lead, especially given Feigen to date hasn't seemingly taken any active role or position on race equality until his statement.

[Herman Cain]

108 years

Last time Cubs won the World Series

Last time Milwaukee had a Republican mayor

http://newstalk1130.iheart.com/onair/common-sense-central-37717/milwaukee-a-democrat-disaster-108-years-15022787/


We aren't immune to it in Madison, either.

Excellent observation.

[Pakuni]

108 years

Last time Cubs won the World Series

Last time Milwaukee had a Republican mayor

http://newstalk1130.iheart.com/onair/common-sense-central-37717/milwaukee-a-democrat-disaster-108-years-15022787/


We aren't immune to it in Madison, either.

So you're saying don't bet on the Cubs this fall.
Thanks for the tip.

[mu03eng]

So you're saying don't bet on the Cubs this fall.
Thanks for the tip.

I don't know that I'd base your decision on that.....Jesse Livermore hasn't made a panicked prediction about selling the Cubs stock yet.

[Pakuni]

I don't know that I'd base your decision on that.....Jesse Livermore hasn't made a panicked prediction about selling the Cubs stock yet.

Cubs stock?
I thought the Packers were the only professional sports team with make-believe stock.

[Badgerhoney]

They weren't democrats until just post WWII - they were socialists. And people loved the city. Just saying.

Mostly Socialists, which are closer to Democrats than Republicans.  Nevertheless, Democrat mayors in 1908, 1912 (fusion candidate of Republicans and Democrats, but Bading was the Democrat who represented the fusion offering), 1940 another.

Another way to look at it, since the city began in 1846, this is the breakdown of party control at the mayoral level

Democrats: 103 years
Socialists (more aligned with Democrats than Republicans): 38 years
Republicans:  20 years
Fusion / non partisan: 10 years

The Milwaukee Common Council is almost entirely Democrat.  If you keep having the same problems for decade after decade, it might be time to think about the same policies and ideologies from the same group of elected leaders. 

[jesmu84]

Well this thread has gone well...

[mu03eng]

Cubs stock?
I thought the Packers were the only professional sports team with make-believe stock.

My bad, I thought there was some sort of stock certificate based on delusions, depression, and Busch Light

[Golden Avalanche]

It's math, Milwaukee is bad, there are places worse in the US...if he thinks Milwaukee is the worst then he hasn't been to other places.

He made the statement in Madison....which isn't exactly a bastion of inclusion and sensitivity contrary to what Madison would have you believe.

Man, it's great fun reading your contemptuous self righteousness in determining what is, and isn't, valid about the experiences of another person.

[4everwarriors]

Da $$$$$ ownership group has several minority, minority members. But, beyond dat, either Feigen is a bonofide idiot or he's layin' the groundwork for another round of public support panderin', hey?

[mu03eng]

Man, it's great fun reading your contemptuous self righteousness in determining what is, and isn't, valid about the experiences of another person.

Never once did I say his experiences were invalid but hey, whatever labels and issues you want to throw my way, go nuts...they aren't what I'm saying or who I am so it doesn't bother me if you want to get worked up about it.

Have a good night