Last two schollies.

[tower912]

I still want Tillman.    Suddenly having 3 athletic 6'9 guys paired with Heldt and Hauser next year up front?   Yes please.      What would you like to see for the last schollie.    IMO, a 2-3 type. 

[GGGG]

If not Tillman, then French (but if French committed tomorrow I would be good)
Cain with either one of them.

Even if we just get one of those three, I think we have filled some holes on this team.  It may not be a highly rated class, but I think it would be important.

[jsglow]

I agree with Sultan.  Land one, fantastic.  Land two, gravy.  My pecking order is either Tillman or French for a big.  Cain for a wing. 

I honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if our next two verbals come by the end of the month.  I think BD's smoke today was just a thin vapor in the air.

[Cooby Snacks]

Seems like the staff is making a push for Jamal Cain, so there's your 2-3 type.

In a couple years we could be looking at...

PG: Carter (JR)
Combo: Rowsey (SR), Duane (SR), Howard (SO)
2-3: Haanif (JR), Hauser (SO), Cain (FR)
3-4: Sandy (SR), Sacar (JR, if anyone can find him by then)
4: French or Tillman (FR)
4-5: Theo (FR), Ike (FR)
5: Heldt (JR)

Clearly I'm making a lot of assumptions. In '18, Bailey presumably is here, obviously there's a lot of emphasis on the younger Hauser, and another point guard looks like it could be a necessity.

[jsglow]

I'm anticipating priority PG in the '18 class.

[Herman Cain]

Hasahn French is the prototype Big East power forward who will do the lunch bucket stuff. A very good kid as well. Would love to close the deal with him.

Tillman has very soft hands and really knows how to work offensively in close.

I would be great to sign  either of those two.

Nwora is a kid with enormous upside. Size and can shoot from all over. Coaches son .

Cain athletic, high motor plays in a very competitive high school environment. Height and Length.

I would love to sign either of these two.

As far as I am concerned. All four are fantastic and if comes down to the first two to say yes, I am fine with that.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

One of Cain/Nwora. Preference would be Nwora but I think it will be Cain. One of Tillman/French. Preference and prediction is Xavier Tillman but would still love to have French.

I think you try and fill both spots and if you lose someone to transfer you fill them with a transfer or grad transfer.

[MU82]

This is a silly thread.

muguru says Wojo can't recruit, so why even bother speculating on what we'll do with these schollies?

I just wish guru were our coach. We'd be 5-starrin' up the yin-yang!

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

One of Cain/Nwora. Preference would be Nwora but I think it will be Cain. One of Tillman/French. Preference and prediction is Xavier Tillman but would still love to have French.

I think you try and fill both spots and if you lose someone to transfer you fill them with a transfer or grad transfer.

I agree with this analysis.

I wouldn't be opposed to landing both Cain and Nwora if Tillman goes elsewhere.

French I know the least about but I'm a fan of puns; huge puntential with French (yes I just made up a word).  For starters, I'll refer to all of his boards as "Freedom Rebounds".

[Herman Cain]

I agree with this analysis.

I wouldn't be opposed to landing both Cain and Nwora if Tillman goes elsewhere.

French I know the least about but I'm a fan of puns; huge puntential with French (yes I just made up a word).  For starters, I'll refer to all of his boards as "Freedom Rebounds".

Its a Family affair, we want Mr. French.

[esotericmindguy]

I'd like to see a PG, I'm not a believer in Carter....he's a backup PG in my mind. Bring energy and play defense. Nice player but don't see him taking a team to the final four. Plus I would be surprised to see another 4 commit with two already coming in, everyone wants to play right away.

[HoopsterBC]

For the next 2 years, they have Carter, Howard and Rowsey.  If Carter can not do it, they have 2 others.  I can see a point for 2018 at best.

There still is room for three, if somebody decides to leave early.

[jsglow]

I'd like to see a PG, I'm not a believer in Carter....he's a backup PG in my mind. Bring energy and play defense. Nice player but don't see him taking a team to the final four. Plus I would be surprised to see another 4 commit with two already coming in, everyone wants to play right away.

Not bringing in a Point this year.  That would smack of 'recruiting over' Marcus and Traci to a lesser extent. You don't get top 30 kids going forward that way. Give em a chance.

[tower912]

Is Cain able?

[tower912]

I'd like to see a PG, I'm not a believer in Carter....he's a backup PG in my mind. Bring energy and play defense. Nice player but don't see him taking a team to the final four. Plus I would be surprised to see another 4 commit with two already coming in, everyone wants to play right away.

I somewhat agree that it is unlikely that MU lands another 4 in this class.   However, if you have enough 4's, you don't need a 5.    We see that in the Big East all of the time.    Nova just won a national championship with Ochefu as the only player on the team taller than 6'9.    They had talented tall 3's who played as 4's and 5's.      Honestly, if you told me that MU was going to have a team with four 6'8-6'9 230lb PF's rotating between the 4 and 5, and they all had game, a la the guys from Xavier, SJU, Villanova, SHU who have beaten us up recently, and no true 5's on the roster, I would be OK with that.       I always thought Buzz's offense would have worked best with a couple of 6'9 stretch 4's rather than a true big.    I can see the same with the 4-out/1-in stuff Wojo is going to run this year.      So, I am glad MU had Fischer and Heldt this year and Heldt going forward.    But if Wojo is able to land Eke/John types going forward, MU will be fine up front.    These are the type of guys neither Crean nor Buzz landed.  (other than McKay, and we know how that turned out)

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Not bringing in a Point this year.  That would smack of 'recruiting over' Marcus and Traci to a lesser extent. You don't get top 30 kids going forward that way. Give em a chance.

Blue bloods recruit over top 30 recruits every single year.  Now I am not saying that we are a blue blood or that we need a point guard next year, but still.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

If Xavier Tillman doesn't work out, I remain very interested in Epperson. Looks like he could be a nice player and a traditional 5, which John and Eke obviously are not.  We'd be covered up front for a while.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Eke is very raw.  I could see him redshirting if Wojo lands another big.

Tillman could backup the 4 and also rotate at the 5 with Heldt and John.

[HoopsterBC]

Eke is very raw.  I could see him redshirting if Wojo lands another big.

Tillman could backup the 4 and also rotate at the 5 with Heldt and John.

That makes total sense.  If you look at Eke he has a very wide shoulder frame, will need 30 lbs. to go with it. 

[MattyWarrior]

Good idea, when was the last time we redshirted a student-athlete for development?

[wildbillsb]

Is Cain able?

+15!!

[MuMark]

Good idea, when was the last time we redshirted a student-athlete for development?

Matt Mortenson?

[tower912]

That was a gamble that didn't pay off. 

[jsglow]

Blue bloods recruit over top 30 recruits every single year.  Now I am not saying that we are a blue blood or that we need a point guard next year, but still.

True of course.  But I'm not sure KY ever recruits a kid under 30!

[bilsu]

Matt Mortenson?

Mortenson was more recent, but O'Neal redshirted Amil McCaskil (sp) after his freshmen year and that worked out very well.