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GGGG

MarquetteMBB ‏@MarquetteMBB  1m1 minute ago
#mubb will begin daily announcement of non-league schedule today with exhibition game, concluding July 16. Season tickets on sale July 18!

I cannot believe that they still think this is a good idea when 2/3 of the opponents are basically crap, and we already know about the other 1/3.  Maybe this year we'll get all excited about a Stetson game in January again!  Good times!!!

Just announce the whole damn thing. 

jsglow

Waiting with baited breath to see if Chitown is right about that exhibition!

GGGG

Quote from: jsglow on July 05, 2016, 09:36:06 AM
Waiting with baited breath to see if Chitown is right about that exhibition!

There's magic in the air!!!

KampusFoods

Quote from: jsglow on July 05, 2016, 09:36:06 AM
Waiting with baited breath to see if Chitown is right about that exhibition!

He was kind of right! Rockhurst, but at the BC on 11/7

Dawson Rental

Rockhurst?

How about that Soviet team, haven't seen them in decades for some reason. 8-)
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

brewcity77

I could not agree more. This method of announcing the schedule is dumb. 8/13 opponents are set or virtually known. Vanderbilt, Wisconsin, Georgia, Fresno State, two of Michigan/Pitt/SMU and two of Eastern Michigan/IUPUI/Gardner-Webb/Howard. Anyone who checks the MU Basketball Twitter daily knows this.

The Lens

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 05, 2016, 09:30:19 AM
MarquetteMBB ‏@MarquetteMBB  1m1 minute ago
#mubb will begin daily announcement of non-league schedule today with exhibition game, concluding July 16. Season tickets on sale July 18!

I cannot believe that they still think this is a good idea when 2/3 of the opponents are basically crap, and we already know about the other 1/3.  Maybe this year we'll get all excited about a Stetson game in January again!  Good times!!!

Just announce the whole damn thing. 

Thank you, thank you, thank you.  This is the worst tradition in sports.  I cannot understand who thinks this is a good idea.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

GGGG

I mentioned this idea elsewhere:

Day 1: Announce Thanksgiving tournament
Day 2: Announce Wisconsin date
Day 3: Announce other major opponents
Day 4: Announce the exhibition and buy-games.
Day 5: Mention conference opponents (dates not set yet) and recap.

Pakuni


Dr. Blackheart

This screams "we signed up another set pansies in order to claim another 20 win season".  When the majority of the Big East has released their OOC schedule over a month before MU, this makes MUAD look really, really lame.  Hell, DePaul has already figured this one out.

Pakuni

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 05, 2016, 11:34:49 AM
This screams "we signed up another set pansies in order to claim another 20 win season".  When the majority of the Big East has released their OOC schedule over a month before MU, this makes MUAD look really, really lame.  Hell, DePaul has already figured this one out.

It screams more of "it's early July and there's nothing better to complain about."
If the schedule sucks, by all means gripe.
But getting pissy over how the schedule is released is silly, at best.
(IMO .... you're all free to get pissy over whatever you choose, of course)

bilsu

Quote from: Pakuni on July 05, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
It screams more of "it's early July and there's nothing better to complain about."
If the schedule sucks, by all means gripe.
But getting pissy over how the schedule is released is silly, at best.
(IMO .... you're all free to get pissy over whatever you choose, of course)
I agree with this statement. Whether the schedule is released all at once or one game at a time really makes no difference. It does allow us time to discuss the merits of each game. however, I would prefer that they release it all at once

Nukem2

Quote from: bilsu on July 05, 2016, 12:02:19 PM
I agree with this statement. Whether the schedule is released all at once or one game at a time really makes no difference. It does allow us time to discuss the merits of each game. however, I would prefer that they release it all at once
Those Grambling discussions can be scintillating.... ;)

mu03eng

Marquette is trying to build anticipation for ticket purchases.....this ain't gonna do it and it just irritates the rabid fanbase. Having said that, it is a summer problem that has little actual value as a discussion.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

BM1090

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 05, 2016, 11:34:49 AM
This screams "we signed up another set pansies in order to claim another 20 win season".  When the majority of the Big East has released their OOC schedule over a month before MU, this makes MUAD look really, really lame.  Hell, DePaul has already figured this one out.

Referencing your first sentence, what makes you say that? We already have Vanderbilt, Wisconsin, Georgia and 2 of Pitt/SMU/Michigan on the schedule. As long as the buy games are better, it's a pretty good schedule. Fresno State is a really good start.

I do agree that the announcement method is really lame.

GGGG

Quote from: Pakuni on July 05, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
It screams more of "it's early July and there's nothing better to complain about."
If the schedule sucks, by all means gripe.
But getting pissy over how the schedule is released is silly, at best.
(IMO .... you're all free to get pissy over whatever you choose, of course)


I'm getting pissy because this is what I do for a living and my alma mater SUCKS at it.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: RKMU123 on July 05, 2016, 09:49:15 AM
He was kind of right! Rockhurst, but at the BC on 11/7

Ah well, that's what you get when you get your info from someone who doesn't actually make the schedule. Still though, getting Rockhurst right is still pretty good.

mu03eng

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 05, 2016, 12:31:07 PM

I'm getting pissy because this is what I do for a living and my alma mater SUCKS at it.

This is a good point....this is more of the recurring silliness that is MU PR efforts.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

jsglow

Quote from: Nukem2 on July 05, 2016, 12:04:27 PM
Those Grambling discussions can be scintillating.... ;)

Rockhurst is evil and must be destroyed?

keefe

Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on July 05, 2016, 10:04:05 AM
Rockhurst?

How about that Soviet team, haven't seen them in decades for some reason. 8-)

Whatever happened to Marathon Oil? Or Athletes in Action for God's sake?

This country used to be great.


Death on call

mu03eng

Quote from: jsglow on July 05, 2016, 12:46:16 PM
Rockhurst is evil and must be destroyed?

Absolutely, any time you can destroy a privileged high school from suburban Kansas City, you gotta do it.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

MU_Beav

Quote from: keefe on July 05, 2016, 01:10:35 PM
Whatever happened to Marathon Oil? Or Athletes in Action for God's sake?

This country used to be great.

Spartak

6746jonesr

#22
Great, we can bitch about this again.  It signs like the rite of July at MU, to bitch not only about the schedule but how it is released.  While we can speculate that it is done for pr reasons, or to drum up fan support, here is something that you should take into consideration.  First, the schedule is not completed for next year. 

The Big East controls the scheduling of conference games, so while we know who our opponents are, we won't know when they will be played. 

Secondly, MU like Georgetown, play all of their games in an NBA arena, so availability of the arena to schedule is tougher for us than most Big East teams, including St. John's and Villanova, who play most of their games on campus, but some games off campus. 

Third, after arena availability is met, television also dictates when games are going to be played.  and, since most Big East games are televised, this also creates scheduling challenges. 

Fourth, MU will always schedule a handful of buy games, just like every other D1 program in the top 40 do.  These are scheduled last, and while all of us would like to see stronger competition, they are not trying to load up on the worst Division one programs.  They schedule these games to make money. 

Sorry if that bothers you, but that is the reality of Division 1 sports at private universities.  We cannot shift the cost of athletics programs onto the student body or state government like public universities do. 

As a result, MU schedules who is available after the first three criteria for scheduling are met.  Bottom rung programs also need the revenue from these buy games, as it is used to support their athletic programs that don't have TV and conference revenue to rely on.  Notice that when MU schedule Grambling or Alcorn State, those teams are on the road for a couple of weeks before Christmas bouncing from a Big Ten game on Monday and a Big East game on Wednesday, so even scheduling bottom rung teams is not as easy as many of you think it is. 

So, rather than focuses on how stupid the athletic program is, or the coaches want to load on 300 and below rpi teams, it is just not true.  There is no conspiracy here, although I doubt anyone on here trusts anything that I wrote in this post.

edit: Paragraphs are your friend.

GGGG

Quote from: 6746jonesr on July 05, 2016, 01:31:18 PM
Great, we can bitch about this again.  It signs like the rite of July at MU, to bitch not only about the schedule but how it is released.  While we can speculate that it is done for pr reasons, or to drum up fan support, here is something that you should take into consideration.  First, the schedule is not completed for next year.  The Big East controls the scheduling of conference games, so while we know who our opponents are, we won't know when they will be played.  Secondly, MU like Georgetown, play all of their games in an NBA arena, so availability of the arena to schedule is tougher for us than most Big East teams, including St. John's and Villanova, who play most of their games on campus, but some games off campus.  Third, after arena availability is met, television also dictates when games are going to be played.  and, since most Big East games are televised, this also creates scheduling challenges.  Fourth, MU will always schedule a handful of buy games, just like every other D1 program in the top 40 do.  These are scheduled last, and while all of us would like to see stronger competition, they are not trying to load up on the worst Division one programs.  They schedule these games to make money.  Sorry if that bothers you, but that is the reality of Division 1 sports at private universities.  We cannot shift the cost of athletics programs onto the student body or state government like public universities do.  As a result, MU schedules who is available after the first three criteria for scheduling are met.  Bottom rung programs also need the revenue from these buy games, as it is used to support their athletic programs that don't have TV and conference revenue to rely on.  Notice that when MU schedule Grambling or Alcorn State, those teams are on the road for a couple of weeks before Christmas bouncing from a Big Ten game on Monday and a Big East game on Wednesday, so even scheduling bottom rung teams is not as easy as many of you think it is.  So, rather than focuses on how stupid the athletic program is, or the coaches want to load on 300 and below rpi teams, it is just not true.  There is no conspiracy here, although I doubt anyone on here trusts anything that I wrote in this post.


I don't think many would disagree with you.  Everyone knows that there will be buy games.  Everyone knows its not all that easy to put a schedule together.  They are already working on next year's.

People have complained about the quality of the buy game opponents. 

And I have complained about how they release it.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 05, 2016, 12:31:07 PM

I'm getting pissy because this is what I do for a living and my alma mater SUCKS at it.

As a PR professional, explain the (apparently vast) benefits of releasing the nonconference schedule all at one vs the piecemeal method MU has chosen.
It seems to me that doing it this way creates daily/near daily opportunities to generate discussion, JS blog posts, tweets, etc. about MU basketball in an otherwise completely dead period. Whereas, a one-day schedule dump creates just one JS story, one day of social media chatter, etc.
Other than a handful of impatient people finding it annoying, explain the downside.

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