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MU82

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on June 16, 2016, 08:07:22 AM
I only half agree. There's 24 teams with max cap room this year and about the same next year. However, the era isn't dead. This contracts will add up and teams will need space in the future after blowing max money on guys like Harrison Barnes.

Exactly. When guys like Whiteside end up getting max deals and Barnes gets $100M+, we'll have a dozen or more teams pushed right up against the new, higher salary cap. It happens every time the cap is raised.
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mu03eng

"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

frozena pizza

I'm a Wolves fan and I'd love to see Butler here.  However, I would not trade #5, Lavine, Dieng and a 2018 first rounder to get Butler.  It makes more sense for them to package Rubio with the #5 pick and either the 2018 pick or a role player like Shabazz.  If it is with Lavine or Dieng they should at least get the Bulls #14 pick in return.

Pakuni

Quote from: frozena pizza on June 16, 2016, 12:52:41 PM
I'm a Wolves fan and I'd love to see Butler here.  However, I would not trade #5, Lavine, Dieng and a 2018 first rounder to get Butler.  It makes more sense for them to package Rubio with the #5 pick and either the 2018 pick or a role player like Shabazz.  If it is with Lavine or Dieng they should at least get the Bulls #14 pick in return.

Yep, you're a Wolves fan alright.


MerrittsMustache

Quote from: frozena pizza on June 16, 2016, 12:52:41 PM
I'm a Wolves fan and I'd love to see Butler here.  However, I would not trade #5, Lavine, Dieng and a 2018 first rounder to get Butler.  It makes more sense for them to package Rubio with the #5 pick and either the 2018 pick or a role player like Shabazz.  If it is with Lavine or Dieng they should at least get the Bulls #14 pick in return.

Sure, it makes more sense for the T-Wolves to give up less but why would the Bulls want to make that trade?


ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 16, 2016, 01:12:33 PM
Sure, it makes more sense for the T-Wolves to give up less but why would the Bulls want to make that trade?

Even GarPax wouldn't be stupid enough to make that trade.

frozena pizza

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 16, 2016, 01:12:33 PM
Sure, it makes more sense for the T-Wolves to give up less but why would the Bulls want to make that trade?

Giving up less by trading Rubio rather than Lavine or Dieng?  Not sure I would agree, although Rubio's contract becomes problematic if you bring on Butler.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: frozena pizza on June 16, 2016, 05:11:12 PM
Giving up less by trading Rubio rather than Lavine or Dieng?  Not sure I would agree, although Rubio's contract becomes problematic if you bring on Butler.

The Bulls have no incentive to make a deal unless Wiggins is involved.  I highly doubt the Wolves would consider including Wiggins.  It's hard for me to see a realistic match between the two teams. 

rocket surgeon

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on June 16, 2016, 01:12:33 PM
Sure, it makes more sense for the T-Wolves to give up less but why would the Bulls want to make that trade?

if, and i said IF JB is a problem on that team, that's why they would want to make a trade. and then if, and i said IF it makes sense for them(da bulls), make the trade.   what i mean by problem is, does JB think he has more power than he has?  hmmmm, sounds kinda familiar heyn'a... sounds like a mosquita  you can't have one of your players sitting around the locker room undermining the coach and doing it publicly nonetheless.  stick to what ya know jimmy-put the ball in the hole 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands


ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: jsglow on June 17, 2016, 04:47:38 PM
Pleeeeeeease!!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16287776?ex_cid=espnfb

I have my doubts but if one team were to trade for Rose, it would be the Knicks.

🏀

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 17, 2016, 05:31:37 PM
I have my doubts but if one team were to trade for Rose, it would be the Knicks.

This would be bittersweet.

Vander Blue Man Group

I wonder if Sacramento would remove or relax the restrictions on the conditional first round pick from the Deng trade in exchange for Rose.  Collison recently had off the court issues, Rondo is a free agent, and it sounds like Sacramento wants to win this year. 

Probably highly doubtful but if I were the Bulls front office I would at least inquire about this possibility (assuming nothing comes to fruition with NY). 

rocket surgeon

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 17, 2016, 05:31:37 PM
I have my doubts but if one team were to trade for Rose, it would be the Knicks.

them or the raiders, 'ey?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

buckchuckler

Quote from: PTM on June 17, 2016, 08:18:47 PM
This would be bittersweet.

Why?  He is over paid, under performs and is most likely leaving after this season as a free agent.  Get rid of him if you can.  He had a couple great years, he is no longer that player.

ChitownSpaceForRent

There were people in the comments of the article saying that even Melo wouldn't be enough, and some people on Facebook were like. "Chicago doesn't deserve you anyway"

Hell, Jose Calderon would be enough for me. I'd even package Tony Snell in with Rose if that means the Bulls could get rid of him. Bulls fans are the absolute worst in the city.

🏀

Quote from: buckchuckler on June 18, 2016, 05:03:45 PM
Why?  He is over paid, under performs and is most likely leaving after this season as a free agent.  Get rid of him if you can.  He had a couple great years, he is no longer that player.

Teal

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: PTM on June 19, 2016, 12:07:05 PM
Teal

Not even close man. Rose is done, he may be serviceable if he can stay healthy, but hes not a superstar or even a number 2 option anymorw. He's a cancer for this Bulls organization, with a terrible contract by an inept GM. It's time to let go.

Pakuni

Quote from: buckchuckler on June 18, 2016, 05:03:45 PM
Why?  He is over paid, under performs and is most likely leaving after this season as a free agent.  Get rid of him if you can.  He had a couple great years, he is no longer that player.

Bittersweet because at one point Rose appeared on his way to becoming a hall of famer while playing for his hometown team. If the Bulls can get something of value for him, then by all means they should, but there's nothing wrong with being wistful for what might have been.

🏀

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 19, 2016, 02:43:31 PM
Not even close man. Rose is done, he may be serviceable if he can stay healthy, but hes not a superstar or even a number 2 option anymorw. He's a cancer for this Bulls organization, with a terrible contract by an inept GM. It's time to let go.

Not sure what you're going for, we agree.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 19, 2016, 02:43:31 PM
Not even close man. Rose is done, he may be serviceable if he can stay healthy, but hes not a superstar or even a number 2 option anymorw. He's a cancer for this Bulls organization, with a terrible contract by an inept GM. It's time to let go.

I'm not saying our front office isn't somewhat inept but you can't blame the contract on them based on when he signed it (December 2011).  Anyone would have signed him to a max deal pre-injury. 

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: PTM on June 19, 2016, 05:31:48 PM
Not sure what you're going for, we agree.

Mis understood your teal.


ChitownSpaceForRent

Bye Derrick, go save your knees for your kids graduation elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/745696405860270081

tower912

So Butler wins the power struggle in Chicago.    Derrick Rose to the Knicks for spare parts.   
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