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GGGG

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 01, 2016, 08:03:51 PM
Drugs and NBA never good. I see a small crevice and want to jam the door open for Vander.


Again, that's how dumb teams react.  Good teams just try to get better.

Herman Cain

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 01, 2016, 08:13:07 PM

Again, that's how dumb teams react.  Good teams just try to get better.
Vander can add value.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

GGGG


Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Vander with 14 points in opening game lost 86-85. Play by Play shows he missed the last shot. I was not able to watch game. Next game Sunday at 1pm Eastern.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

GB Warrior

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 02, 2016, 08:04:31 AM
These things take time.

For what, exactly? Vander is who he is, and the D-league is not representative of the style of ball played in the big leagues. I think had he stayed, Vander may have been drafted in the second round. I don't think he would have been any more or less successful than he has been.

I think the most financially prudent option for him would be to maximize his prime years overseas.

Herman Cain

Quote from: GB Warrior on July 02, 2016, 02:41:37 PM
For what, exactly? Vander is who he is, and the D-league is not representative of the style of ball played in the big leagues. I think had he stayed, Vander may have been drafted in the second round. I don't think he would have been any more or less successful than he has been.

I think the most financially prudent option for him would be to maximize his prime years overseas.
Takes time for the right set of circumstances to emerge. Thinks can turn on a dime. Jae was supposedly on thin ice with the Mavs and struck gold in a coach , Brad Stevens, who believed in him.

I agree if he does not find his way into the league this year, overseas would be the best option for him.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Vander has a game in Summer League today at 1 eastern.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

brewcity77

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 02, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
Takes time for the right set of circumstances to emerge. Thinks can turn on a dime. Jae was supposedly on thin ice with the Mavs and struck gold in a coach , Brad Stevens, who believed in him.

I agree if he does not find his way into the league this year, overseas would be the best option for him.

The difference, I believe, is that Jae had spent most of his time on a roster prior to his breakthrough chance. Vander has had, if I recall correctly, three 10-day contracts with three different teams (Philly, Boston, LA Lakers) that were not renewed. Dallas may not have given Jae much time, but they also didn't risk losing him, whereas none of the teams that gave Vander a chance seemed to think he was valuable enough to keep around.

I love the kid. Think he did a great job of fighting through criticism at Marquette and emerging as a very good college player. He was a hard worker who figured out how to contribute from day one and grew his game from that point to go from defensive role-player to best player on a conference championship winner. But I just don't think he's a NBA player.

Herman Cain

Quote from: brewcity77 on July 04, 2016, 11:06:28 AM
The difference, I believe, is that Jae had spent most of his time on a roster prior to his breakthrough chance. Vander has had, if I recall correctly, three 10-day contracts with three different teams (Philly, Boston, LA Lakers) that were not renewed. Dallas may not have given Jae much time, but they also didn't risk losing him, whereas none of the teams that gave Vander a chance seemed to think he was valuable enough to keep around.

I love the kid. Think he did a great job of fighting through criticism at Marquette and emerging as a very good college player. He was a hard worker who figured out how to contribute from day one and grew his game from that point to go from defensive role-player to best player on a conference championship winner. But I just don't think he's a NBA player.
I am rooting very hard for him to achieve his goal.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

GGGG

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 04, 2016, 12:56:03 PM
I am rooting very hard for him to achieve his goal.


Pretty much everyone is.  However I think realistically people realize that at best he's an end of the bench player.

77ncaachamps

#136
I love seeing Vander get shots during Summer League because it means there's interest.

But it's gotta stick soon or the eyes will be shifting elsewhere.

He's not having a good game today.

EDIT: He showed great form on the FTs made.
SS Marquette

Herman Cain

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on July 04, 2016, 01:12:39 PM
I love seeing Vander get shots during Summer League because it means there's interest.

But it's gotta stick soon or the eyes will be shifting elsewhere.

He's not having a good game today.

EDIT: He showed great form on the FTs made.
Vander ended up with 23 7-13 fg 2-5 from 3 7-9 from line 4 steals 4 TO
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 04, 2016, 02:21:22 PM
Vander ended up with 23 7-13 fg 2-5 from 3 7-9 from line 4 steals 4 TO
Vander also going to be playing in the Las Vegas Summer League for Dallas.

Hopefully he can translate his performance this summer into a tryout opportunity in the fall.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Herman Cain

Vander playing at 3 today. Looks like he is playing for Dallas in the Las Vegas summer league as well. He will definitely get a lot of looks between both.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MerrittsMustache

Dallas signed Wes, "drafted" Jae and brought Jamil onto their summer league team last season. Somebody in Big D likes Marquette players. This could end up being Vander's best shot at sticking...although the Mavs giving Seth Curry a 2-year deal the other day doesn't help VB's chances.


Herman Cain

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 06, 2016, 10:00:08 AM
Dallas signed Wes, "drafted" Jae and brought Jamil onto their summer league team last season. Somebody in Big D likes Marquette players. This could end up being Vander's best shot at sticking...although the Mavs giving Seth Curry a 2-year deal the other day doesn't help VB's chances.
Some commentary from Vander at the Summer League.
http://www.nba.com/magic/video/teams/magic/2016/07/04/1467663425069-vanderblue070416.mp4-630970
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

GB Warrior

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 06, 2016, 10:00:08 AM
Dallas signed Wes, "drafted" Jae and brought Jamil onto their summer league team last season. Somebody in Big D likes Marquette players. This could end up being Vander's best shot at sticking...although the Mavs giving Seth Curry a 2-year deal the other day doesn't help VB's chances.

We should ask Mark Cuban for his thoughts on MUBB's schedule release strategy.

We R Final Four

I heard he is so upset about it that he won't even comment on it.

Herman Cain

Vander 16 points 7 rebounds and 3 assists. 2 steals 3 turnovers.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Vander may end up benefitting from Wade deal as cap strapped teams look to find cheap alternatives
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

wadesworld

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 06, 2016, 09:46:49 PM
Vander may end up benefitting from Wade deal as cap strapped teams look to find cheap alternatives

Lol.  What are you talking about?

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