Starting Lineup 2016/2017

[nyg]

This is maybe what the lineup will look like starting out:

C -   Fischer        with Heldt  backing
SF - JJJ               with Hauser backing
SF - Reinhardt     with Anim and Cohen
SG - Cheatham    with Rowsey and Wilson
PG - Howard        with Carter backing

Some will disagree with the PG position, but I believe Howard didn't commit to MU to be Carter's backup for three years.  You never know what the coach tells the players, but just my gut feeling here.

Left Wally off in light of his track status, but he would be fine with a few minutes somewhere in there as a backup. 

Some of past year's players will have their playing time decreased in light of Reinhardt, Howard, Rowsey and Hauser addition, but will make practice time much, much, more competitive. Should be interesting how this pans out.

[brewcity77]

I still think we need one more big in there, but it'll be interesting to see how minutes play out. Assume Fischer and Heldt split time at the 5. Could Hauser, JJ, and Sandy provide enough rebounding at the 4 to manage? Figure 160 minutes for Rowsey, Carter, Howard, Duane, Cheatham, JJ, Sandy, Reinhardt, Anim, Hauser, and the thirteenth man? Can Wojo play Cal Kentucky style and keep them all happy?

[willie warrior]

I still think we need one more big in there, but it'll be interesting to see how minutes play out. Assume Fischer and Heldt split time at the 5. Could Hauser, JJ, and Sandy provide enough rebounding at the 4 to manage? Figure 160 minutes for Rowsey, Carter, Howard, Duane, Cheatham, JJ, Sandy, Reinhardt, Anim, Hauser, and the thirteenth man? Can Wojo play Cal Kentucky style and keep them all happy?

No he won't keep them all happy. Wojo has a huge logjam at guard/swing, and has created a yuuge wojo cut.

[CAGASS24]

This is maybe what the lineup will look like starting out:

C -   Fischer        with Heldt  backing
SF - JJJ               with Hauser backing
SF - Reinhardt     with Anim and Cohen
SG - Cheatham    with Rowsey and Wilson
PG - Howard        with Carter backing

Some will disagree with the PG position, but I believe Howard didn't commit to MU to be Carter's backup for three years.  You never know what the coach tells the players, but just my gut feeling here.

Left Wally off in light of his track status, but he would be fine with a few minutes somewhere in there as a backup. 

Some of past year's players will have their playing time decreased in light of Reinhardt, Howard, Rowsey and Hauser addition, but will make practice time much, much, more competitive. Should be interesting how this pans out.

You want to know what coaches tell almost all recruits about what you mentioned in the PG paragraph - that nkthing is set in stone and if you come in and prove you are the better option you will play - you might not think Howard will be second to carter for three years - but he almost certainly will be next year - the kid is gonna be 17 for crying out loud -

[jsglow]

Two thoughts. I do see TC getting the nod over Howard,  at least initially.  Second,  Wilson is going to have to dramatically improve if he wants to play.

[HutchwasClutch]

While I'm certainly excited about Howard's addition, expectations of him need to be tempered.  This is a kid coming in having played only three years of high school.   He's making an enormous jump.  Carter has a lot of minutes under his belt now.  Reinhardt and Rowsey could both play minutes at PG.  While Howard is probably too good not to get his opportunities next year, I think Wojo is going to pick his spots with him. 

I think same thing for Hauser.  Love his game, potential, etc.  He and Howard are both likely to be very good- great Warriors when it's all said and done, but Hauser to has a huge adjustment to make, especially the guys he's going to have to guard now and with all the experience and talent already here.

[HutchwasClutch]

Duane Wilson is the guy of everyone who I think better improve his game a lot, or else he's going to get passed over for minutes.  He's not very big, he's not a PG, his decision making is often poor, and he's a streaky shooter. 

[HutchwasClutch]

I'll take a stab at it, however, I think there's to much competition and talent to expect Wojo to roll with the same 5 all season.  I think he'll change it up as needed throughout the season.

My guess, without getting involved in all the minutes and roles and everything guys will likely play -
PG - Carter
G - Rowsey
G - Reinhardt
F  - Cheatham
C  - Fischer
6th man - JJJ

Like many are saying in other threads, competition for minutes will be intense.

[vacinator]

I think JJJ is our best returning player - I predict he will lead the team in minutes

[CAGASS24]

I think JJJ is our best returning player - I predict he will lead the team in minutes

Best player or best talent - not the same - it's clear he is unbelievably talented but the best player is the one maxing it out the most consistently - I'm not saying it won't be him but i see fisher being our best player

[Wojo'sMojo]

Best player or best talent - not the same - it's clear he is unbelievably talented but the best player is the one maxing it out the most consistently - I'm not saying it won't be him but i see fisher being our best player

I think JJJ was remarkably consistent the last 10 or so games of the season. If he plays like he did for that stretch, he's gonna be a first team Big East player. Fischer can't stay on the court long enough to be our best player. Too many stupid fouls.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My stab at a way too early minutes distribution:

Fischer: 30 minutes
Reinhardt: 24 minutes
JJJ: 23 minutes
Cheatham: 22 minutes
Rowsey: 17 minutes
Wilson: 17 minutes
Carter: 16 minutes
Howard: 16 minutes
Cohen: 10 minutes
Heldt: 10 minutes
Ellenson: 5 minutes
Anim: 5 minutes
Hauser: 5 minutes

In conclusion....this is difficult. But love having 13 players is great.

[esotericmindguy]

PG - Rowsey, SG - Reinhardt, SG - Hauser, PF - Ellenson, C - Heldt. Gonna traditional the f*ck out of the big east.

[CAGASS24]

My stab at a way too early minutes distribution:

Fischer: 30 minutes
Reinhardt: 24 minutes
JJJ: 23 minutes
Cheatham: 22 minutes
Rowsey: 17 minutes
Wilson: 17 minutes
Carter: 16 minutes
Howard: 16 minutes
Cohen: 10 minutes
Heldt: 10 minutes
Ellenson: 5 minutes
Anim: 5 minutes
Hauser: 5 minutes

In conclusion....this is difficult. But love having 13 players is great.

I see fish cheetham and Duane getting leaned on a ton and most others mjnutes will be defined by the roles they assume

[WarriorPride68]

PG - Rowsey, SG - Reinhardt, SG - Hauser, PF - Ellenson, C - Heldt. Gonna traditional the f*ck out of the big east.

You win

[CAGASS24]

You are right though - this roster is looking so much stronger top to bottom than the last three years - if Wally does indeed leave and we pick up a solid frosh to balance out the development processes this is setting up like a good couple years for the program

[CAGASS24]

I know we lost our best player - but considering we are replacing him with rowsey, Howard, hauser and Reinhardt - hard to think we can't be better next year

[Lennys Tap]

My stab at a way too early minutes distribution:

Fischer: 30 minutes
Reinhardt: 24 minutes
JJJ: 23 minutes
Cheatham: 22 minutes
Rowsey: 17 minutes
Wilson: 17 minutes
Carter: 16 minutes
Howard: 16 minutes
Cohen: 10 minutes
Heldt: 10 minutes
Ellenson: 5 minutes
Anim: 5 minutes
Hauser: 5 minutes

In conclusion....this is difficult. But love having 13 players is great.

1. Given his penchant for silly fouls, 30 minutes for Luke is too high.
2, Cheatham is "Wojo's boy"- he'll get 25+.
3. We won't have 10 players average 10+ minutes, especially in conference play. Either more transfers are coming or we'll have some disgruntled players.

[vacinator]

Thus far the roster has lost 33.5 mpg from HE - there are going to be many players competing for those minutes.  I don't see Cheatham, JJJ or Fisher playing less.  That leaves Cohen (23 mpg), Wilson (29 mpg), Wally (8 mpg)  and Carter (24 mpg) losing time.   

Players that will likely gain roster minutes - Reinhardt, Rowsey, Howard, Heldt and Hauser.

[bilsu]

We are not a small team with this lineup
C Fischer
F Hauser
F Reinhart
G JJJ
G Cheatnam

I do not know if that will happen, but with two small forwards I am not sure the team can start guards under 6'. Sure Rowsey and Howard are suppose to be good three point shooters, but so are Hauser, Reinhardt, JJJ and Cheathan, so the value of the small guards shooting is less important than it would of been in other years. I certainly do not think you will see Rowsey and Howard on the floor at the same time. Big guards would just abuse them unless one of them is an athletic freak like James was. Of course the best offensive team is the one that limits its turnovers, so we may need to start a guard under 6'5". I suppose you could point to Buzz's second team and say a small team can work, but that team had on it two future 30 picks in the NBA draft.

[willie warrior]

Thus far the roster has lost 33.5 mpg from HE - there are going to be many players competing for those minutes.  I don't see Cheatham, JJJ or Fisher playing less.  That leaves Cohen (23 mpg), Wilson (29 mpg), Wally (8 mpg)  and Carter (24 mpg) losing time.   

Players that will likely gain roster minutes - Reinhardt, Rowsey, Howard, Heldt and Hauser.

Gaining roster minutes over whom? Are we now writing off carter, Cohen and Wilson?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

1. Given his penchant for silly fouls, 30 minutes for Luke is too high.
2, Cheatham is "Wojo's boy"- he'll get 25+.
3. We won't have 10 players average 10+ minutes, especially in conference play. Either more transfers are coming or we'll have some disgruntled players.

1. Luke has averaged 29 mpg the last two seasons. Increasing that by 1 mpg is not that much a stretch. I do think Luke improves this offseason and learns to cut down on the fouls. But I agree its a concern.
2. I don't think anyone is "Wojo's boy." Playing time is not given, it is earned. If HC earns 25+ great, but with as many guards as we have, I think the wise move is to spread out minutes a little more widely.
3. Why not? We don't have any truly great players on the team next year. But when your worst player on a 13 man roster is either a Sam Hauser, Sacar Anim, or Wally Ellenson, that is a ton of depth. Why not use it to your advantage? With as small as we are going to be, I'd expect a very high pressure defense and a fast tempo offense. This will require a lot of substitutions and lot of fouls to give. Remember the elite 8 season with Buzz? He 9 players averaging over 10 mpg and 2 averaging 9 mpg. IIRC correctly, we we are one top teams in the nation in substitutions per game. I could see a similar approach next season. All speculation on my part of course.

[GGGG]

Starters:

C-Luke (Heldt back up)
PG - Carter (Rowsey back up)
F/G - Reinhardt, Cheatham, JJJ  (Howard, Rowsey, Hauser)

Sandy, Anim and new freshman with spot minutes.  Not sure Duane and Wally are around.

[Nukem2]

Starters:

C-Luke (Heldt back up)
PG - Carter (Rowsey back up)
F/G - Reinhardt, Cheatham, JJJ  (Howard, Rowsey, Hauser)

Sandy, Anim and new freshman with spot minutes.  Not sure Duane and Wally are around.

Suspect Markus Howard will be getting some meaningful minutes.  Duane's not going anywhere.

[GGGG]

I think Howard will be getting meaningful minutes.  I think he will be part of a largely six or seven man rotation playing four guard/forward spots.