Starting Lineup 2016/2017

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I think positions are useless next year so it's easier to break it down by minutes.

Luke-35
Heldt-5 (really depends on fouls for Luke)

Haanif-35
JJJ-30
Traci-25
Reinhardt-20
Duane-20
Howard-15
Rousey-15
Sandy-5

Spot minutes for Anim and Hauser. Mind you these are purely guesses. A lot of things can change after the start of the season. Also, didn't really check my math. Hope it adds up to 200.

[WarriorPride68]

Luke-35

Luke has averaged 3.2 fouls per game since coming to Marquette in 29 minutes per game. He's going to really need to cut down on the fouls to play an extra 6 minutes this year (Henry played 33 mpg for example)

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think positions are useless next year so it's easier to break it down by minutes.

Luke-35
Heldt-5 (really depends on fouls for Luke)

Haanif-35
JJJ-30
Traci-25
Reinhardt-20
Duane-20
Howard-15
Rousey-15
Sandy-5

Spot minutes for Anim and Hauser. Mind you these are purely guesses. A lot of things can change after the start of the season. Also, didn't really check my math. Hope it adds up to 200.

Entirely possible, but I have a hard time seeing Reinhardt going from the second best player on an NCAA team to the fifth best player on a team that missed the nit. I think we are underestimating how good Reinhardt is

[forgetful]

My stab at a way too early minutes distribution:

Fischer: 30 minutes
Reinhardt: 24 minutes
JJJ: 23 minutes
Cheatham: 22 minutes
Rowsey: 17 minutes
Wilson: 17 minutes
Carter: 16 minutes
Howard: 16 minutes
Cohen: 10 minutes
Heldt: 10 minutes
Ellenson: 5 minutes
Anim: 5 minutes
Hauser: 5 minutes

In conclusion....this is difficult. But love having 13 players is great.

Take Wally's and Anim's minutes away and give them to Duane and Cheatham so they are both at around 24 and I agree with your breakdown.

[WarriorPride68]

Entirely possible, but I have a hard time seeing Reinhardt going from the second best player on an NCAA team to the fifth best player on a team that missed the nit. I think we are underestimating how good Reinhardt is

Was Reinhardt the 2nd best player for USC? He averaged the 5th most points per game (11.4) & took the 2nd most shots. Started 18 of 34 games. His PER was 6th best amongst rotation players & Win Shares was also 6th best.

What measurements are you going by that I'm missing?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I think positions are useless next year so it's easier to break it down by minutes.

Luke-35
Heldt-5 (really depends on fouls for Luke)

Haanif-35
JJJ-30
Traci-25
Reinhardt-20
Duane-20
Howard-15
Rousey-15
Sandy-5

Spot minutes for Anim and Hauser. Mind you these are purely guesses. A lot of things can change after the start of the season. Also, didn't really check my math. Hope it adds up to 200.

I think Rousey will get more than 15 mpg.

Would be great if we could redshirt someone to free up more minutes but there aren't any obvious candidates.

[vacinator]

Gaining roster minutes over whom? Are we now writing off carter, Cohen and Wilson?

I am not writing off anyone.  That said the newcomers combined and Heldt's increase will likely total more than HE's 33.5 mpg.  It has to come from somebody

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Was Reinhardt the 2nd best player for USC? He averaged the 5th most points per game (11.4) & took the 2nd most shots. Started 18 of 34 games. His PER was 6th best amongst rotation players & Win Shares was also 6th best.

What measurements are you going by that I'm missing?

He was the team's best defender. Also the difference between top scorer (McLauglin) and 5th scorer (Reinhardt) on USC was 2.0 ppg. They had a very well balanced scoring attack.

[Marcus92]

I am not writing off anyone.  That said the newcomers combined and Heldt's increase will likely total more than HE's 33.5 mpg.  It has to come from somebody.

Xavier's roster might provide some clues.

Of their main rotation, only 1 topped 30 minutes a game: Bluiett at 30.6 mpg. Two others averaged more than 25 minutes: Davis (29.1) and Sumner (25.9). The next four (Abell, Macura, Farr and Reynolds) averaged between 19.6 and 24.4 mpg.

Gates, Austin and O'Mara saw more limited minutes. Each appeared in at least 30 games, averaging between 7.0 and 10.4 mpg.

I would be thrilled if Wojo felt comfortable playing 9 or even 10 deep — especially if we're going to play an up-tempo game. Fewer minutes might actually help Haanif and Duane, so they have more in the tank when they really need to turn it on.

[bilsu]

I think positions are useless next year so it's easier to break it down by minutes.

Luke-35
Heldt-5 (really depends on fouls for Luke)

Haanif-35
JJJ-30
Traci-25
Reinhardt-20
Duane-20
Howard-15
Rousey-15
Sandy-5

Spot minutes for Anim and Hauser. Mind you these are purely guesses. A lot of things can change after the start of the season. Also, didn't really check my math. Hope it adds up to 200.

If Heldt has not progressed enough not to average more than 5 minutes a game, than we will really be hurting next year. I do think Fischer and Heldt will see some time on the the floor together. That will depend on the makeup of our opponent's team.

[WarriorPride68]

He was the team's best defender. Also the difference between top scorer (McLauglin) and 5th scorer (Reinhardt) on USC was 2.0 ppg. They had a very well balanced scoring attack.

Gotcha, so just your opinion. Wasn't sure if you had any advanced statistics I was missing

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Gotcha, so just your opinion. Wasn't sure if you had any advanced statistics I was missing

And the opinion of people who follow USC.

[WarriorPride68]

And the opinion of people who follow USC.

Who?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Who?

People on their message boards.

[WarriorPride68]

People on their message boards.

Gotcha. I'm excited for his impact next year. Anyone who is a senior, former top 50 kid, and willing to guard the opposing teams top player is cool with me

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Gotcha. I'm excited for his impact next year. Anyone who is a senior, former top 50 kid, and willing to guard the opposing teams top player is cool with me

If he is as good of a wing defender if people say he is than Sandy may really see his minutes cut next year.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

My stab at a way too early minutes distribution:

Fischer: 30 minutes
Reinhardt: 24 minutes
JJJ: 23 minutes
Cheatham: 22 minutes
Rowsey: 17 minutes
Wilson: 17 minutes
Carter: 16 minutes
Howard: 16 minutes
Cohen: 10 minutes
Heldt: 10 minutes
Ellenson: 5 minutes
Anim: 5 minutes
Hauser: 5 minutes

In conclusion....this is difficult. But love having 13 players is great.

No chance in hell Cheatham averages less than 25 MPG. These are way off IMO.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Suspect Markus Howard will be getting some meaningful minutes.  Duane's not going anywhere.

This. If Duane leaves, it's after next season as a grad transfer. He is not burning a full year of eligibility.

[Herman Cain]

While I'm certainly excited about Howard's addition, expectations of him need to be tempered.  This is a kid coming in having played only three years of high school.   He's making an enormous jump.  Carter has a lot of minutes under his belt now.  Reinhardt and Rowsey could both play minutes at PG.  While Howard is probably too good not to get his opportunities next year, I think Wojo is going to pick his spots with him. 

I think same thing for Hauser.  Love his game, potential, etc.  He and Howard are both likely to be very good- great Warriors when it's all said and done, but Hauser to has a huge adjustment to make, especially the guys he's going to have to guard now and with all the experience and talent already here.

I agree with this analysis.

[AZMarqfan]

JJJ made a massive leap mid-season.  I'd compare it to the leap Blue made between his Soph and Jr seasons.  Wilson seems primed for this kind of development next year, although if anyone were to transfer I think it'd be him.

Howard is a huge land.  But he'll be turning 18 during the season, right?  I would not expect him to start, or even contribute more than 10 minutes.  In fact, I also wouldn't be surprised if he were a candidate to redshirt (i.e., isn't it better to develop physically and practice against D1 athletes than to play a 4th season of HS ball?  That's part of the logic in Henry going pro to ride the bench rather than playing against lesser competition). 

Rowsey is likely a 30 minute a game guy.  JJJ can play a small 4 position.  Sometime we forget that most colleges don't have a true 1-2-3-4-5 lineup.  Many have 1-1-2-3-4, 1-2-2-3-4, etc.  We should be faster than most of our opponents. 

[mu03eng]

At PG I think it breaks down in conference play as: TC - 20, Rowsey - 15, Howard - 5

At C I think it breaks down in conference play as: 30 - Fischer, 10 - Hedlt

The other 3 positions are a jumble of 120 minutes: Haanif - 30, Duane - 20, JjJ - 20, Rowsey - 5, Sandy - 10, Hauser - 10, Reinhart - 25

[fjm]

¿¿¿¿Rowsey -5????


Edit: thanks sultan didn't see that.

[PGsHeroes32]

At PG I think it breaks down in conference play as: TC - 20, Rowsey - 15, Howard - 5

At C I think it breaks down in conference play as: 30 - Fischer, 10 - Hedlt

The other 3 positions are a jumble of 120 minutes: Haanif - 30, Duane - 20, JjJ - 20, Rowsey - 5, Sandy - 10, Hauser - 10, Reinhart - 25

No

[GGGG]

¿¿¿¿Rowsey -5????

And playing point for 15

[forgetful]

At PG I think it breaks down in conference play as: TC - 20, Rowsey - 15, Howard - 5

At C I think it breaks down in conference play as: 30 - Fischer, 10 - Hedlt

The other 3 positions are a jumble of 120 minutes: Haanif - 30, Duane - 20, JjJ - 20, Rowsey - 5, Sandy - 10, Hauser - 10, Reinhart - 25

There is no way Howard is only playing 5 minutes a game.