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MattVelazquez

Henry Ellenson's NBA decision looming

After rewriting Marquette’s freshman record book by finishing with 17.0 points and 9.7 rebounds per game, winning Big East freshman of the year, and getting multiple freshman all-America nods and many more accolades, Ellenson has a big decision to make about his future.

Source: Henry Ellenson's NBA decision looming

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Complete, thorough, lacking hyperbole or vitriol.... What the hell is it doing on scoop? ;D
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Headline changed to get more page hits or something?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: tower912 on March 23, 2016, 07:26:28 AM
Complete, thorough, lacking hyperbole or vitriol.... What the hell is it doing on scoop? ;D

He's new. He'll eventually learn the rules
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TAMU

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MUfan12

"I like him OK," one scout told the Journal Sentinel. "I think he's going to be a good shooter in the NBA. The lack of athleticism scares me a little bit. He doesn't have good lateral quickness. I don't think he's the toughest guy. He's definitely going to be an NBA player and in the right situation I think he'll succeed."

I wonder how common this sentiment is around the league.

forgetful

Quote from: MUfan12 on March 23, 2016, 11:31:57 AM
"I like him OK," one scout told the Journal Sentinel. "I think he's going to be a good shooter in the NBA. The lack of athleticism scares me a little bit. He doesn't have good lateral quickness. I don't think he's the toughest guy. He's definitely going to be an NBA player and in the right situation I think he'll succeed."

I wonder how common this sentiment is around the league.

Sounds like a drunk guy at the bar rationalizing going home with an ugly chick.  You know, she's not unattractive, her facial hair and adam's apple scare me a bit, but I think she would be decent in bed.  She's got a walker, but if I put a bag over her head, I think it'll be ok.

RJax55

Quote from: MUfan12 on March 23, 2016, 11:31:57 AM
"I like him OK," one scout told the Journal Sentinel. "I think he's going to be a good shooter in the NBA. The lack of athleticism scares me a little bit. He doesn't have good lateral quickness. I don't think he's the toughest guy. He's definitely going to be an NBA player and in the right situation I think he'll succeed."

I wonder how common this sentiment is around the league.

I think its a fair assessment.

The "I don't think he's the toughest guy" is a little tricky. On defense, I would agree with that statement. HE definitely lacked physicality on that end. But, offensively, there were a number of games when he was getting beat up and he kept coming.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: RJax55 on March 23, 2016, 11:49:50 AM
I think its a fair assessment.

The "I don't think he's the toughest guy" is a little tricky. On defense, I would agree with that statement. HE definitely lacked physicality on that end. But, offensively, there were a number of games when he was getting beat up and he kept coming.

I truly believe part of the "lack of toughness" on defense was by design to keep him out of foul trouble. Luke was such a foul magnet that it would have been catastrophic if HE got in foul trouble as well. But I definitely agree on the lateral quickness.
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Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 23, 2016, 11:56:43 AM
I truly believe part of the "lack of toughness" on defense was by design to keep him out of foul trouble. Luke was such a foul magnet that it would have been catastrophic if HE got in foul trouble as well. But I definitely agree on the lateral quickness.

That plus he has the strength of a 19 year old.  As big/mature as he is a lot of him getting pushed around is just youth - I think some are calling that toughness.  That will equal out shortly though as long as he puts the work in.

RushmoreAcademy

The NBA scouts opinion of him will change after he scores 31 with 17 rebounds in the National Championship game next year.

MerrittsMustache

#11
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 23, 2016, 11:31:57 AM
"I like him OK," one scout told the Journal Sentinel. "I think he's going to be a good shooter in the NBA. The lack of athleticism scares me a little bit. He doesn't have good lateral quickness. I don't think he's the toughest guy. He's definitely going to be an NBA player and in the right situation I think he'll succeed."

I wonder how common this sentiment is around the league.

I would guess it's pretty common. What did he say that one could argue? Maybe the toughness comment and even that was pretty mild. He's going to get stronger and though his athleticism is never going to improve dramatically, he could definitely become a smarter player on the defensive end to help him evolve into an adequate defender at the next level.



jficke13

I think the criticism of his lateral quickness is fair. I also think that will improve somewhat as he works out and spends more time in his full-grown body. I think it improved noticeably from the beginning to the end of the season.

4everwarriors

You can teach lateral quickness or least buy some, hey?
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fjm

I'm very much in the "he may stay" group.
But it's also 35 degrees and raining/snowing in the end of March. You know where it isn't raining or snowing right now?
(Mid post edit. I was about to list all the warm weather cities that will be in the lottery! Then realized there are only 4 in the lottery that are not in the northern/cold US: LA, Phoenix, New Orleans, Orlando.)

Sooo never mind. He's back in the staying category.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MUfan12 on March 23, 2016, 11:31:57 AM
"I like him OK," one scout told the Journal Sentinel. "I think he's going to be a good shooter in the NBA. The lack of athleticism scares me a little bit. He doesn't have good lateral quickness. I don't think he's the toughest guy. He's definitely going to be an NBA player and in the right situation I think he'll succeed."

Doesn't sound like the Bucks are a fan

BrewCity83

"I like him OK"......who did they interview for this story, Beaver Cleaver?
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jsglow

Quote from: jficke13 on March 23, 2016, 12:31:26 PM
I think the criticism of his lateral quickness is fair. I also think that will improve somewhat as he works out and spends more time in his full-grown body. I think it improved noticeably from the beginning to the end of the season.

I think his lateral quickness issue improves over time.  Maybe he doesn't get tons quicker but he learns position defense better.  Henry is a willing student committed to getting better.  His D got better this year over the course of 30 short college games.

Eldon

Quote from: jficke13 on March 23, 2016, 12:31:26 PM
I think the criticism of his lateral quickness is fair. I also think that will improve somewhat as he works out and spends more time in his full-grown body. I think it improved noticeably from the beginning to the end of the season.

Quote from: jsglow on March 23, 2016, 05:07:57 PM
I think his lateral quickness issue improves over time.  Maybe he doesn't get tons quicker but he learns position defense better.  Henry is a willing student committed to getting better.  His D got better this year over the course of 30 short college games.

Is it really noticeable?  Unfortunately, I was only able to watch 1.5 games this season, having to resort to listening to the rest via radio stream.

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Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2016, 07:31:15 PM
Is it really noticeable?  Unfortunately, I was only able to watch 1.5 games this season, having to resort to listening to the rest via radio stream.

Yes that it is slow.  Harder to track improvement but it is still slower than it needs to be

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forgetful

Quote from: jsglow on March 23, 2016, 05:07:57 PM
I think his lateral quickness issue improves over time.  Maybe he doesn't get tons quicker but he learns position defense better.  Henry is a willing student committed to getting better.  His D got better this year over the course of 30 short college games.

Agree with the red, it'll be 2-3 years, but his lateral quickness will not be an issue in the future.

Disagree with the blue, I didn't see any improvement there, but that may in part be due to stiffer competition later in the season.

Galway Eagle

Nobody seems to entertain the idea that he follows his dad's footsteps and transfers to Bucky
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