Question on Henry's announcement

[real chili 83]

Pioneer Press has him in a woofies costume next year. 

[forgetful]

My friends in the talent scouting industry have heard the opposite.  Specifically they've been 2 wording it with "he gone." It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I'm hearing that whereas people were 99.9% sure he was gone a couple weeks ago, now they are hedging their bets a bit.  Lets say 80% confident now (arbitrarily made up number).

Still odds are he leaves, but feedback suggesting he is towards the end of the lottery/middle of the round instead of top 5/10.

Its going to come down to whether he wants to sit on the bench next year, but be able to focus on basketball 24/7 or spend another year being a star at the college level.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Is someone familiar with whether college players are allowed to take out some type of future income insurance policy while in school?  If I were Henry and could lock in some portion of my future NBA earnings for a reasonable sum that would allow me to play college basketball without worry about injury, I'd think long and hard about it.

[GGGG]

Is someone familiar with whether college players are allowed to take out some type of future income insurance policy while in school?  If I were Henry and could lock in some portion of my future NBA earnings for a reasonable sum that would allow me to play college basketball without worry about injury, I'd think long and hard about it.

Not only can he take out such a policy, but the school can pay for it.

[GooooMarquette]

Pioneer Press has him in a woofies costume next year. 

The NBA kiss of death - being drafted by the Slumberwolves.

[We R Final Four]

Not only can he take out such a policy, but the school can pay for it.

Like a lloyds of London type deal?
Any info on particulars?
Ex--it covers knees and ankles, not concussions, etc.

[MU82]

I'm hearing that whereas people were 99.9% sure he was gone a couple weeks ago, now they are hedging their bets a bit.  Lets say 80% confident now (arbitrarily made up number).

Still odds are he leaves, but feedback suggesting he is towards the end of the lottery/middle of the round instead of top 5/10.

Its going to come down to whether he wants to sit on the bench next year, but be able to focus on basketball 24/7 or spend another year being a star at the college level.

He not gowne! He stayne!!!

[jsglow]

The NBA kiss of death - being drafted by the Slumberwolves.

Maybe not in Henry's mind.

[4everwarriors]

Last I heard da bread is green no matter what team you be on, hey?

[GGGG]

Like a lloyds of London type deal?
Any info on particulars?
Ex--it covers knees and ankles, not concussions, etc.

No idea.  Here's an article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/09/sports/ncaafootball/insurance-doesnt-eliminate-risk-for-top-college-athletes-who-forgo-draft.html?_r=0

"Loss-of-value insurance has been available to any college athlete who could afford it, but colleges have recently begun paying for premiums out of their student assistance funds, which the N.C.A.A. allows."

[Ellenson Guerrero]

No idea.  Here's an article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/09/sports/ncaafootball/insurance-doesnt-eliminate-risk-for-top-college-athletes-who-forgo-draft.html?_r=0

"Loss-of-value insurance has been available to any college athlete who could afford it, but colleges have recently begun paying for premiums out of their student assistance funds, which the N.C.A.A. allows."

I'm surprised that the colleges are allowed to pay for it and I'm not sure that they are the best ones to be negotiating with insurance companies for benefits ultimately to be collected by the player. But if it helps HE feel comfortable in returning, I'm all for it.

The policy terms certainly get complicated quick, especially when you have to account for the varying strength of NBA draft classes. 

[JakeBarnes]

I'm hearing that whereas people were 99.9% sure he was gone a couple weeks ago, now they are hedging their bets a bit.  Lets say 80% confident now (arbitrarily made up number).

Still odds are he leaves, but feedback suggesting he is towards the end of the lottery/middle of the round instead of top 5/10.

Its going to come down to whether he wants to sit on the bench next year, but be able to focus on basketball 24/7 or spend another year being a star at the college level.

That is fair. I haven't heard much since last Thursday when it was reiterated to me that he was gone. But that's from people who have a theoretical interest in him being gone. Maybe he goes the Blossomgame route and tries to see what his prospects look like first (a lot of people iffy on Blossomgame and his size).

That said, I would personally (and selfishly) love to see him in a Marquette uniform next year if only for the fact that kids should be allowed to be kids for a little bit longer. Be a college kid. Enjoy high level ball with you buddies, etc.

[Coleman]

I'm surprised that the colleges are allowed to pay for it and I'm not sure that they are the best ones to be negotiating with insurance companies for benefits ultimately to be collected by the player. But if it helps HE feel comfortable in returning, I'm all for it.

The policy terms certainly get complicated quick, especially when you have to account for the varying strength of NBA draft classes.

I view it as no different than providing health insurance, disability insurance, etc., which universities already provide to student-athletes.

[Huge guy]

As long as he does not hire an agent he can wait a while. He probably waits for sure
until after the NCAA s to get a better feel as to where he might get drafted. In addition WOJO will work the pro guys to get a feel as to what's going on and what pre draft camps he will attend. I don't think he has to declare for the draft until late May.

[BrewCity83]

As long as he does not hire an agent he can wait a while. He probably waits for sure
until after the NCAA s to get a better feel as to where he might get drafted. In addition WOJO will work the pro guys to get a feel as to what's going on and what pre draft camps he will attend. I don't think he has to declare for the draft until late May.

I think the date's June 13 but I'm just going from memory.

[Galway Eagle]

I think the date's June 13 but I'm just going from memory.

according to this it's April 29.  Though if he declares after the 10th he cannot undeclare apparently. 

http://www.ncaa.org/remaining-eligible-professional-draft-inquiries

[Spotcheck Billy]

according to this it's April 29.  Though if he declares after the 10th he cannot undeclare apparently. 

http://www.ncaa.org/remaining-eligible-professional-draft-inquiries

that's not from this year (Tuesday April 10th?) and things were changed this year

[radome]

Dunn is going pro according to CBS. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25526556/providence-guard-kris-dunn-will-declare-for-the-2016-nba-draft

It is selfish to want Henry to stay; he has money to make. Just wondering, as Dunn and others declare, do you think that it could be part of the decision? Is there a point in which enough declare that this "weak" class becomes stronger and waiting until next year helps? A fellow can dream ...

[Galway Eagle]

that's not from this year (Tuesday April 10th?) and things were changed this year

My bad may 25th

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/1/12/10754458/nba-draft-early-entry-deadline

[BrewCity83]

May 25th confirmed for this year.  It's ten days after the end of the NBA combine.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25448359/ncaa-moves-withdrawal-deadline-for-nba-draft-to-after-combine

[The Lens]

Dunn is going pro according to CBS. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25526556/providence-guard-kris-dunn-will-declare-for-the-2016-nba-draft

It is selfish to want Henry to stay; he has money to make. Just wondering, as Dunn and others declare, do you think that it could be part of the decision? Is there a point in which enough declare that this "weak" class becomes stronger and waiting until next year helps? A fellow can dream ...

Dunn has been on every draft board since Nov. 

[MomofMUltiples]

To clarify, Henry would have to declare for the draft by April 24, the Early Entry Eligibility Deadline. As long as he does not hire an agent, he can withdraw from the draft up to 10 days after the combine.

NCAA used to require players to declare by one day before the start of the April signing season, and that decision was irrevocable.  This change seems to be designed to allow college players time to get a realistic view of their probability of being drafted. Wish it was around when Vander left....

[Benny B]

Like a lloyds of London type deal?
Any info on particulars?
Ex--it covers knees and ankles, not concussions, etc.

LofL deal for sure. 

Type(s) of coverage, benefits, qualifications, etc. are all negotiable, but typically they cover only the catastrophic stuff (i.e. career-ending injuries).  If you suffer a major injury but are still able to play after reasonable recovery (i.e. you end up being a journeyman instead of an all-star and/or delay your entry to the NBA by a couple years), those usually don't pay off.

Keep in mind, the odds of a career-ending or materially-detrimental injury are astronomically low (unless you have a known condition or pre-disposition to injury), so Lloyd's loves this kind of stuff.

[wadesworld]

To clarify, Henry would have to declare for the draft by April 24, the Early Entry Eligibility Deadline. As long as he does not hire an agent, he can withdraw from the draft up to 10 days after the combine.

NCAA used to require players to declare by one day before the start of the April signing season, and that decision was irrevocable.  This change seems to be designed to allow college players time to get a realistic view of their probability of being drafted. Wish it was around when Vander left....

Don't think that ever really mattered.

[Dish]

I traded texts with Malik Newman today. He declared without an agent. In short, he believes he's NBA ready, but his family advised him to not hire an agent yet. His thinking is go to the combine and see what happens, zero to lose.