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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on March 15, 2016, 12:04:02 AM


Buzz's guys were absolute junkyard dogs, and who couldn't love JFB, Jae, Lazar, Wes etc?? There is something to be said about guys that the world had given up on. You talk about fire and chips on shoulders!!!!



Wes was a Crean recruit as was Lazar.   I'm fine with guys with a chip on their shoulders, but I don't understand why people think only a JUCO can have that motivational push.


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 15, 2016, 07:46:54 AM
Unlike Chicos who hoped and prayed buzz would be gone, I am hoping that Wojo Turns this around and makes me eat crow.   I am not Anti Wojo.  I was am Pro-Buzz and was Pro-Crean because they both won games.      Hopefully next year I will be a Pro-Wojo convert!

I didn't hope or pray Buzz was gone, I hoped he could win without dragging the university through the mud.  He couldn't do that, he's gone now.   He is a very good coach, should have been coach of the year one year in the Big East.  If he could have done the winning without the extra nonsense (some public, some that never became public), that's a different story.  He couldn't.

TheTulsaWarrior

A couple of quick footnotes:  Coach Krzyzewski was 9-17 in his final year at Army.  In his first three years at Duke he was 17-13, 10-17 and 11-17.  Dean Smith's first three years at North Carolina went 8-9, 15-6 and 12-12.  Students hung him in effigy, in his third year at the school.

Wojo's team won 20 games in his second season, two players made the All Freshman Team.  That was his first recruiting class.  We're not seeing Dukiet or Deane level recruits.  Buzz left the team with unbalanced recruiting class, consistent transfers and some players who had the potential to give the school negative national headlines.  The mess went beyond the roster to staff and fundamental institutional issues.

The world has changed since Krzyzewski and Smith started.  Would they have been given time in the Internet fan message board era?  Did they have legacy and institutional issues Wojo and the new school president had to deal with?

Groin_pull

Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on March 16, 2016, 12:18:54 PM
A couple of quick footnotes:  Coach Krzyzewski was 9-17 in his final year at Army.  In his first three years at Duke he was 17-13, 10-17 and 11-17.  Dean Smith's first three years at North Carolina went 8-9, 15-6 and 12-12.  Students hung him in effigy, in his third year at the school.

Wojo's team won 20 games in his second season, two players made the All Freshman Team.  That was his first recruiting class.  We're not seeing Dukiet or Deane level recruits.  Buzz left the team with unbalanced recruiting class, consistent transfers and some players who had the potential to give the school negative national headlines.  The mess went beyond the roster to staff and fundamental institutional issues.

The world has changed since Krzyzewski and Smith started.  Would they have been given time in the Internet fan message board era?  Did they have legacy and institutional issues Wojo and the new school president had to deal with?

I think Wojo has done a fine job so far. As has already been discussed, he was handed a mess when he walked in...and MU's record last season reflected this. This season, MU won 20 games. Equally important (to me), MU is now doing it without the shady crap that Buzz was increasingly involved in. Considering some of the limitations that MU faces: small school in a frozen, rust belt city. I think Wojo has stepped up and delivered. Are there areas where he can improve? Certainly. But overall, he has done well—and is doing it the right way.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on March 16, 2016, 12:18:54 PM
A couple of quick footnotes:  Coach Krzyzewski was 9-17 in his final year at Army.  In his first three years at Duke he was 17-13, 10-17 and 11-17.  Dean Smith's first three years at North Carolina went 8-9, 15-6 and 12-12.  Students hung him in effigy, in his third year at the school.

Wojo's team won 20 games in his second season, two players made the All Freshman Team.  That was his first recruiting class.  We're not seeing Dukiet or Deane level recruits.  Buzz left the team with unbalanced recruiting class, consistent transfers and some players who had the potential to give the school negative national headlines.  The mess went beyond the roster to staff and fundamental institutional issues.

The world has changed since Krzyzewski and Smith started.  Would they have been given time in the Internet fan message board era?  Did they have legacy and institutional issues Wojo and the new school president had to deal with?

Yep.  I've tried pointing out K's early record at Duke a few times this season when people were expressing disappointment about Wojo, but it often fell on deaf ears.  I think time will show Wojo to be a good hire.

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