NIT

[Jay Bee]

Is bilsu a bad person? Maybe

[JTBMU7]

NMSU loses on a last second shot, another bid for the NIT is spoken for.

[Dr. Blackheart]

NYC Buckets and Dratings updated their NCAA and NIT brackets overnight.

Fork meet MU. See ya at Madness.

http://www.nycbuckets.com/current-nit-bracketology/
http://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

[ChicosBailBonds]

Duane would also burn a year of eligibility. If he transfers, it'll be after next year if he is in a position to be a grad transfer. Duane is going nowhere. Luke and JJ are going nowhere.

You realize that someone could transfer and not burn any eligibility because they can graduate this year,

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm fairly certain that not even Tanned Tommy would want to hang that banner from the rafters...

NIT is the lowest we should sink.

It is depressing to think how we are rationalizing what three years ago would have triggered Scoop Armageddon.

I hope the Administration is taking stock because this program is not meeting the mark.

All about trajectory

[ChicosBailBonds]

Mike

I am not suggesting that Wojo get fired. Far from it. But Marquette needs to take stock of the performance of its most valuable asset. Like it or not, Marquette's national reputation is largely predicated on the performance of its men's basketball team.

A lack of success on the hardwood is a very real issue for the strategic aims of the institution.

If this was GE Capital Indonesia the Country Director wouldn't get fired straight away but he also wouldn't last through 8 quarters of subpar performance.

Marquette invests heavily in the Men's Basketball Program because it has paid significant returns. Everyone accepts cyclical dips but I think it is fair to ask if we are witnessing an aberration or a trend.

If we take a hard look at where we are at as a program the future portends more of the same:

- We lose our best player
- We likely lose upper classman talent this off season
- We continue to have a roster with gaping skills deficits
- We remain inexperienced
- Our fan base is defecting in droves
- We can't even get on FS1 consistently


If this was a strategic business unit of GE Capital I guarantee that CT would be asking some tough questions because the shareholders have expectations of performance. I see no reason why Marquette should not have the same standards of excellence.

Personally, I don't see things getting better. Next year could be even worse. I think it is fair for the University to ask current management to stop at the Six Sigma Tollgate.   

And the solution?  I'm being serious....the solution?

In the mean time, HE leaves (if he does), we will see the impact...plenty of teams over the years in pro and college have lost their best player and done fine...plenty have not.

Trajectory is key.  Bumsteer leftus in a bad spot with non shooters and without a point guard.  Is what it is.   I'd love to hear a solution...

[bilsu]

All right already! You win!

Henry is a horsecrap rebounder. He should be embarrassed to have been the conference's top rebounder and should renounce that statistic immediately.

Furthermore, NBA teams should take note of this horsecrap rebounding and tell Hank they will not draft him at all. Not even in the second round.

Once that happens, we will be stuck with him and his horsecrap rebounding for another season. Tough break for Marquette!

I do not think he is a horse crap rebounder. However, my point is that if he was a great rebounder he be averaging 14 game instead of 10. He is not fulfilling his potential as a rebounder. He gets the easy rebounds. Have you ever seen Henry sky above someone to get a rebound. Most of his rebounds are flat footed. He has great size and is very smart, so he gets a lot of rebounds. He is not an aggressive rebounder and therefore in my book should not be called a great rebounder.

[Nukem2]

I do not think he is a horse crap rebounder. However, my point is that if he was a great rebounder he be averaging 14 game instead of 10. He is not fulfilling his potential as a rebounder. He gets the easy rebounds. Have you ever seen Henry sky above someone to get a rebound. Most of his rebounds are flat footed. He has great size and is very smart, so he gets a lot of rebounds. He is not an aggressive rebounder and therefore in my book should not be called a great rebounder.

His issue is that he is not a good leaper as he has a limited vertical game.  He relies more on his height and reach.

[ChicosBailBonds]

His issue is that he is not a good leaper as he has a limited vertical game.  He relies more on his height and reach.

Which might be a problem in the next league where so many have his reach and height, but also can jump.

[WarriorPride68]

Mike Broeker tweet from last night:

"After L4 out; Top 100 RPI Ws by NIT at-large candidates - #mubb, Bama, LSU, LBSU, Va Tech - 7; FSU, Georgia, Houston - 6; Ga Tech, Wash - 5."

https://twitter.com/mikebroeker/status/708733655515062272

Hopefully the NIT selection committee follows Broeker on Twitter

[Herman Cain]

Mike Broeker tweet from last night:

"After L4 out; Top 100 RPI Ws by NIT at-large candidates - #mubb, Bama, LSU, LBSU, Va Tech - 7; FSU, Georgia, Houston - 6; Ga Tech, Wash - 5."

https://twitter.com/mikebroeker/status/708733655515062272

Hopefully the NIT selection committee follows Broeker on Twitter

We beat LSU which should account for something.

[warriorstrack]

Mike Broeker tweet from last night:

"After L4 out; Top 100 RPI Ws by NIT at-large candidates - #mubb, Bama, LSU, LBSU, Va Tech - 7; FSU, Georgia, Houston - 6; Ga Tech, Wash - 5."

https://twitter.com/mikebroeker/status/708733655515062272

Hopefully the NIT selection committee follows Broeker on Twitter

Looks like a partial list of the teams we will see in Vegas

[Dr. Blackheart]

I do not think he is a horse crap rebounder. However, my point is that if he was a great rebounder he be averaging 14 game instead of 10. He is not fulfilling his potential as a rebounder. He gets the easy rebounds. Have you ever seen Henry sky above someone to get a rebound. Most of his rebounds are flat footed. He has great size and is very smart, so he gets a lot of rebounds. He is not an aggressive rebounder and therefore in my book should not be called a great rebounder.

Wojo plays a four out and one in offense (Buzz ran a three out and two in offense). The one in is primarily Luke. Luke is #61 in the nation in offensive rebounding rate, but MU, as a team under Wojo both years, are the worst MU offensive rebounding teams in recorded KPom history, however--one year with HE and one without.  This is by design so MU gets back to set up on defense (like Wisconsin under Bo).

On defense, Henry is #2 in the Big East in defensive rebounding rate. This is also by design as Wojo has Luke seal on defense, freeing HE to board and turn to lead the break out on transition, with a dribble or quick pass.  HE gets "easy" (your word, not mine) rebounds as that is exactly what Wojo wants to free him to lead the break out (with Henry's unique skill set).

When Luke is in foul trouble, Henry becomes that physical battler on both ends, if you notice. "Mad Henry" appears and is doing damage. The kid is a freak and is very talented as he can play many roles. MU will miss him greatly. Understand, what you are complaining about is by the coach's design, so bitch about Wojo then.

[muguru]

Looks like a partial list of the teams we will see in Vegas

If MU does not receive an NIT invite, their season will be over.

[ChicosBailBonds]

If MU does not receive an NIT invite, their season will be over.

In your mind, or in reality?  Likely two different things

[Dr. Blackheart]

In your mind, or in reality?  Likely two different things

I think the poster is implying MU will not accept any other bid.

[MU82]

I do not think he is a horse crap rebounder. However, my point is that if he was a great rebounder he be averaging 14 game instead of 10. He is not fulfilling his potential as a rebounder. He gets the easy rebounds. Have you ever seen Henry sky above someone to get a rebound. Most of his rebounds are flat footed. He has great size and is very smart, so he gets a lot of rebounds. He is not an aggressive rebounder and therefore in my book should not be called a great rebounder.

I guess it depends upon how one defines "great."

If a college player must average 14 rebounds to be "great," then there is exactly one great rebounder in the entire country, Egidijus Mockevicius of Evansville, who averaged exactly 14.0 rebounds. I haven't seen him, so I don't know if I would have traded Henry for him straight up. But looking at probable NBA drafts, it doesn't appear scouts and GMs would have traded Hank for Edgy!

So what is "very good"? Or "good"?

In my estimation, based upon having watched every Marquette game this season and dozens of other college basketball games, Henry is a very good rebounder. I wouldn't call him "great," either, but I am very reluctant to use that word. Bill Russell was a great rebounder. Schindler's List was a great movie. The Beatles were a great rock band.

As for Henry not skying above the world for rebounds, more than 90% of all rebounds are gathered in below the rim. How many rebounds did Wes Unseld "sky" for?

The bigger issue here is that you are so anxious to tear down the best freshman Marquette has had in years (or ever) that you repeatedly get into semantic scraps over how good he isn't.

I'm not one who goes back and looks up posts Scoopers made years ago -- I leave that to Chicos and others. But I don't remember you being so knee-jerk negative in the past, bilsu. Maybe I'm wrong and you've always been this way. Or maybe a few less-satisfying years have turned you into a grump.

Whatevs. It's your life. If you want to be pissed off about Marquette basketball, enjoy!

Aside from a half-dozen or so games, I enjoyed watching this team. I enjoyed watching Henry, even though he didn't rebound like Rodman or shoot like Bird. I saw significant improvement almost across the board, including the coaching staff. And I think Marquette basketball has a bright future.

If I ending up having been wrong about that last sentence, I can live with that. I enjoy my life as a "realistic optimist."

[CountryRoads]

In your mind, or in reality?  Likely two different things

Reality. Vegas doesn't make much sense for this team. I think the last game of the year was against Xavier.

[jsglow]

Reality. Vegas doesn't make much sense for this team. I think the last game of the year was against Xavier.

In YOUR opinion.  If you're claiming inside knowledge I submit you're not BD.  Marquette has given no hint whatsoever about Plan B.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I think the poster is implying MU will not accept any other bid.

I guess we will find out. 

[mu_eyeballs]

If MU misses the NIT this year whoever finalized such an RPI killing schedule needs to be fired!  That being said...I think HE star might be bright enough to pull us into the field.

[4everwarriors]

Da NIT used ta be all 'bout $. If day figured yo team could sell more tix @ home or on da road, you'd be in. We'll see if anythin's changed, hey?

[brewcity77]

If MU does not receive an NIT invite, their season will be over.

Hate to say it because I'd love to see us play in Vegas, but I suspect this is correct.

[1SE]

Da NIT used ta be all 'bout $. If day figured yo team could sell more tix @ home or on da road, you'd be in. We'll see if anythin's changed, hey?

Other than our RPI I think we have a good profile.  Probably more "good wins" and fewer "bad losses" most other teams in the convo.  Plus a lottery pick.  Plus a coach from the K tree, who ESPN adores.  Plus a fan base that travels relatively well.  I'm optimistic.

[Jay Bee]

Our scheduling really wasn't that terrible, IMO. It's just that the RPI sees it as terrible because our easy games were 10's on the easy scale. Could have had other easy games that were 6's and been better off.

PS ---

Kansas' opp RPI in their losses on average: 54
MU's avg RPI loss: 51
Virginia... 55
Oregon.. 70
Xavier.. 51
Miami (FL)...65
Kentucky.. 83

In other words, CROWN US! NIT, please consider average RPI loss.