Are there any scenarios that Henry would stay?

[dgies9156]

Henry can choose to stay for reasons of his own.

That's been my point all along.

[keefe]

Well, of course there are scenarios under which Henry stays.

The probability of any of them occurring is impossibly low.

[g0lden3agle]

The NBA enacts a "two years removed from HS before draft eligible" rule, effective immediately.

[Dish]

If he's allergic to large amounts of $$$, then yes.

[Goose]

Keefe

Well said.

[Marcus92]

Tim Duncan stated he planned to stay four years at Wake Forest so he could graduate — even though he was projected as the top pick in the NBA draft as a sophomore.

Obviously, he's the exception. But anyone who says there's no chance Henry returns for his sophomore season is dead wrong. It's just not a good chance. Big difference.

[Herman Cain]

Please, please, please Marquette Fan in NY, please post, please!

I originally thought Henry would stay all four years. My logic was that he was going to play two years with his brother.  At that point he  would have steady progression and simply enjoy the college life so much and have so much fun on the court that he would opt for having another two years culminating in Big East Player of the Year and All American honors and a chance at Marquette glory.

Recently.,I spoke with several of the top brass in the athletic department. They told me he has good people around him and he will listen to them. They said the thinking is basically if he is a high draft choice he will go but if he is a low first round he will stay.

Over the course of the season it has been very apparent that Henry has an incredible instinct for rebounds. He makes them all look easy which of course is his genius. I think between the boards, the ability to pretty much do everything on the court and his consistency in doing what he does, it is a foregone conclusion he will be in the top half of the draft and maybe even higher.

So I have changed my posture and think he will opt for the pros early. I truly hope I am wrong, as he is a spirited player with real talent and I think we could reach the promised land again if he did stay 4 years. Probably a 30 percent chance he stays for another year but that would strictly be for Wally and the family. Most likely gone though.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Except they've never had anywhere near the collection of young talent they have right now.

I've heard that every year since KG left too

[mug644]

How about a scenario where Henry worries that his last game at MU is perhaps his worst, when he is in foul trouble, commits a flagrant 1, and is a liability on defense. At MSG.

In this hypothetical scenario maybe he can't let his MU career end like that, and so he comes back.

[warriorchick]

I originally thought Henry would stay all four years. My logic was that he was going to play two years with his brother.  At that point he  would have steady progression and simply enjoy the college life so much and have so much fun on the court that he would opt for having another two years culminating in Big East Player of the Year and All American honors and a chance at Marquette glory.

Recently.,I spoke with several of the top brass in the athletic department. They told me he has good people around him and he will listen to them. They said the thinking is basically if he is a high draft choice he will go but if he is a low first round he will stay.

Over the course of the season it has been very apparent that Henry has an incredible instinct for rebounds. He makes them all look easy which of course is his genius. I think between the boards, the ability to pretty much do everything on the court and his consistency in doing what he does, it is a foregone conclusion he will be in the top half of the draft and maybe even higher.

So I have changed my posture and think he will opt for the pros early. I truly hope I am wrong, as he is a spirited player with real talent and I think we could reach the promised land again if he did stay 4 years. Probably a 30 percent chance he stays for another year but that would strictly be for Wally and the family. Most likely gone though.

I have been told by a very reliable source that if he generally predicted to be a lottery pick, he is gone.

[AZMarqfan]

While his defense is still poor, his 3-point shooting work, and his shot creation are weak, I've changed my tune in the last few days.  All those weaknesses are things that can improve with practice and maturity.   If he goes pro, I would understand it.  He's not "ready" by traditional standards, but he is ready to get paid.  I still believe he'd be better served playing another year in college and entering the pros at age 20, but that's not how it's done these days with someone of his talent. 

In the last few days, Henry has shown his defense is still a liability, but he has shown the maturity into a clutch performer.  It reminds me a lot of where Wade was after his sophomore year.  He thoroughly dominated his junior year.  HE could do that next year. 

[Stretchdeltsig]

His game needs a lot of work.  He has no clue how to defend underneath.  He takes too many quick shots and doesn't follow up for rebounds.  He should stay to improve his game.

[forgetful]

I have been told by a very reliable source that if he generally predicted to be a lottery pick, he is gone.

I've heard similar.  The question is (and I think he will be), is he a lottery pick?

The only reason I would say no is that the concern about him coming into the season by scouts were his poor shot selection and defense.  They were looking for improvement there, and in my opinion he made no improvement in either category.

Could his lack of improvement in those areas be a red flag to GMs?

[GGGG]

Henry made improvement in shot selection.  He floated around less up top and started to hit mid-range shots more often.  Plus he was constantly double teamed.  Defense...eh...no.

[WarriorFan]

If he goes this year, he's 10-20 range.
If he stays and goes next year, he could be top 3.  Even #1.
That's why he'll stay.

gotta be optimistic eh?

[Marcus92]

Henry made improvement in shot selection.

To an extent. For the season, Henry took the second most threes on the team. But he hit the lowest percentage of anyone in the main rotation — less than 30%. Henry missed more threes than our best 3-point shooter (Haanif at 40%) took.

While some will argue that defense is Henry's biggest weakness, I think it's his 3-point shot selection. He should have taken half as many as he did, maybe even less. Hitting at such a poor percentage dramatically lowered his offensive efficiency — resulting in too many empty possessions and transition baskets the other way.

Henry's touch from inside and mid-range is incredible. That, together with his incredible rebounding, definitely outweighed his shortcomings. Nonetheless, Henry hurt the team from outside the line.

[vogue65]

To an extent. For the season, Henry took the second most threes on the team. But he hit the lowest percentage of anyone in the main rotation — less than 30%. Henry missed more threes than our best 3-point shooter (Haanif at 40%) took.

While some will argue that defense is Henry's biggest weakness, I think it's his 3-point shot selection. He should have taken half as many as he did, maybe even less. Hitting at such a poor percentage dramatically lowered his offensive efficiency — resulting in too many empty possessions and transition baskets the other way.

Henry's touch from inside and mid-range is incredible. That, together with his incredible rebounding, definitely outweighed his shortcomings. Nonetheless, Henry hurt the team from outside the line.

He's a kid.

[vogue65]

He stays if his father says stay, he goes if his father says go.

[Dish]

If he goes this year, he's 10-20 range.
If he stays and goes next year, he could be top 3.  Even #1.
That's why he'll stay.

gotta be optimistic eh?

I will bet you $10,000 he is not a top 3 pick next year.

[#UnleashSean]

I will bet you $10,000 he is not a top 3 pick next year.

I'll bet 100,000 he doesn't get top 5 next year

[Marcus92]

He's a kid.

I have no doubt he'll improve in this area, one way or another. Henry's incredibly talented, smart and dedicated. I'm no shot coach, but his form has looked pretty good. You just can't argue with the results.

It's not even that he took a lot of rushed or contested threes, at least later in the season — he missed plenty of wide-open shots. He'll either have to learn to resist the temptation and put up fewer threes, or practice his butt off and make more of them. I'd put my money on the latter.

[wadesworld]

He gowne.

Oh, and he gowne in the Draft no later than the 7th pick.

[MU82]

The "not ready" argument is silliness.

I could name two dozen guys who went in the lottery in recent years who weren't "ready." I could probably name at least that many who weren't "anywhere in the zip code of ready" during the years the NBA was drafting high-schoolers willy-nilly.

Being ready has nothing to do with anything. The NBA drafts on potential and assumes its coaches will get a guy "ready" eventually.

[wadesworld]

The "not ready" argument is silliness.

I could name two dozen guys who went in the lottery in recent years who weren't "ready." I could probably name at least that many who weren't "anywhere in the zip code of ready" during the years the NBA was drafting high-schoolers willy-nilly.

Being ready has nothing to do with anything. The NBA drafts on potential and assumes its coaches will get a guy "ready" eventually.

This...and he is ready.  Let me know how many guys in college basketball are putting up 17 and 10 while being double teamed and having 10 sets of defensive eyes on him when he has the ball.

[WarriorPride68]

If he goes this year, he's 10-20 range.
If he stays and goes next year, he could be top 3.  Even #1.
That's why he'll stay.

gotta be optimistic eh?

Chad Ford has HE going top 5.

Ford had a pick variance of 2.8 last year fwiw.