NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

In fairness, Glow isn't wrong when he says that White was a waste of a top 10 draft pick.

[MerrittsMustache]

In fairness, Glow isn't wrong when he says that White was a waste of a top 10 draft pick.

Picked immediately after White?

All-Pro OLB Vic Beasley.

Sigh...It's not always hard to figure out why bad teams remain bad.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Picked immediately after White?

All-Pro OLB Vic Beasley.

Sigh...It's not always hard to figure out why bad teams remain bad.

Let's be honest - the White pick was not received poorly. It wasn't a reach - it just hasn't worked thus far.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Let's be honest - the White pick was not received poorly. It wasn't a reach - it just hasn't worked thus far.

Really? I seem to remember people thinking it was a god awful pick. I said it was a waste of a draft pick since day one.

[GB Warrior]

You know what's a bad pickup? Buying a Maserati when you haven't played well enough to prove you deserve a second contract.

[Shaka Shart]

You know what's a bad pickup? Buying a Maserati when you haven't played well enough to prove you deserve a second contract.

Maybe it's a lease

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Really? I seem to remember people thinking it was a god awful pick. I said it was a waste of a draft pick since day one.

Not to my recollection.  I recall there were some questions about his route running and experience but he was very highly regarded and some had him ranked in the top 5.  Maybe you hated the pick from the beginning but it was not considered a reach or a bad pick whatsoever from what I remember.  Revisionist history from most who pan the pick now. 

Rated as the #1 WR, ahead of Cooper:  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000483055/article/2015-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-by-position

Ranked 3rd overall by Mayock:  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000488358/article/2015-nfl-draft-mike-mayocks-top-100-prospects

4th overall by SI:  https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/03/30/2015-nfl-draft-big-board-top-64-prospects

Ranked 7th overall by ESPN (insider):  http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft/rankings/_/year/2015

Ranked 4th by McShay:  http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2015/insider/story/_/id/12773347/todd-mcshay-tier-rankings-2015-class-2015-nfl-draft

[GGGG]

And to be fair, White's issues have been injuries.  Not poor performance.  I mean, he's played four games in two seasons? 

[jesmu84]

RE: Kevin White

This doesn't sound positive

[Pakuni]

And to be fair, White's issues have been injuries.  Not poor performance.  I mean, he's played four games in two seasons?

True, but when he has been in the field, he's been mediocre at best.
His catch rate last year was 85th best in the league, while his drops per game - extrapolated over a full season - would have put him in the top 10.
Obviously plenty of time for him to get better, but there's enough on tape to worry.

[Jockey]

And to be fair, White's issues have been injuries.  Not poor performance.  I mean, he's played four games in two seasons?

It was either Thompson or Wolff who said that the most important ability for any player is availability.

[jsglow]

True, but when he has been in the field, he's been mediocre at best.
His catch rate last year was 85th best in the league, while his drops per game - extrapolated over a full season - would have put him in the top 10.
Obviously plenty of time for him to get better, but there's enough on tape to worry.

Musta been Cutler's fault.

[MerrittsMustache]

True, but when he has been in the field, he's been mediocre at best.
His catch rate last year was 85th best in the league, while his drops per game - extrapolated over a full season - would have put him in the top 10.
Obviously plenty of time for him to get better, but there's enough on tape to worry.

He has good hands and is all kinds of athletic but he can't read defenses or run routes. At West Virginia, he'd basically run go routes or bubble screens. He's David Terrell 2.0.

Go to the 1:30 mark and watch for #13 on the INT. The DB ran the correct route, White was standing 5-10 yards away from the pass, looking lost. Obviously, it's just one example but you get the point.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000700037/Bears-vs-Texans-highlights

[Vander Blue Man Group]

He has good hands and is all kinds of athletic but he can't read defenses or run routes. At West Virginia, he'd basically run go routes or bubble screens. He's David Terrell 2.0.

Go to the 1:30 mark and watch for #13 on the INT. The DB ran the correct route, White was standing 5-10 yards away from the pass, looking lost. Obviously, it's just one example but you get the point.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000700037/Bears-vs-Texans-highlights

At this point there is no excuse for him not to know the playbook inside and out with all the time he's been sidelined.  I'm hoping he spent a lot of time with mental reps as he was recovering.

I'm not ready to put him in the Terrell category of busts yet, but maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.  The opportunity is right in front of him this season. 

[jesmu84]

RE: Kevin White

This doesn't sound positive

So... that didn't work originally. My bad. Check here: (again, doesn't sound good)

https://twitter.com/kfishbain/status/863169370020827136

[muwarrior69]

First woman to call NFL game in September.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/16/528640609/female-broadcaster-set-to-make-nfl-history

[GGGG]

First woman to call NFL game in September.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/16/528640609/female-broadcaster-set-to-make-nfl-history

Not one of my favorites but has been doing college football for ESPN for years.  Perfectly qualified.

[barfolomew]

So... that didn't work originally. My bad. Check here: (again, doesn't sound good)

https://twitter.com/kfishbain/status/863169370020827136

Not much of a surprise given his college game and lack of NFL reps, but I agree it's not ideal for a wide receiver to be unable to run routes. Or catch the ball, really.

Maybe he can pin his combine stats to his jersey and that will make the DB's back off 10 or 15 yards.

[wadesworld]

Not much of a surprise given his college game and lack of NFL reps, but I agree it's not ideal for a wide receiver to be unable to run routes. Or catch the ball, really.

Maybe he can pin his combine stats to his jersey and that will make the DB's back off 10 or 15 yards.

Or maybe they should just turn him into a DB.  If he's ever healthy, that is.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Friend sent this to me today:

[GB Warrior]

Friend sent this to me today:

Fun fact: Favre's final throw in 3 straight seasons, with 3 different teams, was an INT. He only couldn't go 4 for 4 because he was concussed by the frozen field of TCF Bank Stadium

Edit: meant to say "final throw"

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Fun fact: Favre's throw in 3 straight seasons, with 3 different teams, was an INT. He only couldn't go 4 for 4 because he was concussed by the frozen field of TCF Bank Stadium

Remember very clearly where I was for that game. Was at a Bears watch party with my dad in downtown Chicago hosted by Steve Dahl.

That was probably the last good day the Bears had.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-mitch-trubisky-bears-chicago-hope-spt-0521-20170519-story.html

[GGGG]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-mitch-trubisky-bears-chicago-hope-spt-0521-20170519-story.html

"As Pace does with all such get-to-know-you dinners, he asked Trubisky to pick the restaurant and make the reservation. It's a minor request. But it often can be revealing of a player's reliability."

Before Pace and his cohorts arrived on campus, the Bears GM had a text. Dinner at 7 p.m.

The venue: Bin 54, a top steakhouse in North Carolina's Triangle region. And to keep the gathering covert, Trubisky made the reservation for six under an alias: James McMahon.

"I thought that was cool," Pace says.

All of Trubisky's visitors from Chicago appreciated that touch. They took it as evidence of all they had been told about the 22-year-old quarterback never taking himself too seriously yet always focusing on the details."


Seriously???

[GB Warrior]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-mitch-trubisky-bears-chicago-hope-spt-0521-20170519-story.html

Put his bust in Canton