NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17

[wadesworld]

McCarthy will be back.  Thompson might be pushed to a senior role for Elliott Wolf. 

For all the crap he took, Dom Capers has been fantastic the last six games.

Agreed.  I don't think Capers is the issue.  The defense has been pretty solid when we've been even remotely healthy this year.  In years where we've been awful defensively (and there have been some), you had guys like Eric Walden as your best LB not named Clay Matthews.  Sorry, but no defensive coordinator in the history of the game is going to be very successful with that "talent."

[GGGG]

BTW, this six game run pretty much kills, chops up, burns and buries the idea that Aaron Rodgers is not a leader.

http://deadspin.com/that-was-peak-aaron-rodgers-1790684717?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[tower912]

Green Bay is again a threat.  All of that weak sauce about Rodgers and MM earlier failed to take into account injuries and getting AR to be able to trust the new guys.  Completely irrational, but that is what fans do.

[brandx]

Green Bay is again a threat.  All of that weak sauce about Rodgers and MM earlier failed to take into account injuries and getting AR to be able to trust the new guys.  Completely irrational, but that is what fans do.

In reality, I think it was only one "expert" who was attacking Rodgers for not being a leader.

[wadesworld]

Green Bay is again a threat.  All of that weak sauce about Rodgers and MM earlier failed to take into account injuries and getting AR to be able to trust the new guys.  Completely irrational, but that is what fans do.

I think offensively it had more to do with redesigning the offense than injuries.

[RJax55]

Looking over the playoff bracket, has a team ever had an easier draw to the Championship Game than the Pats?

They get either the Dolphins, Texans or Raiders. QB-wise, that's Matt Moore, Tom Savage or Connor Cook.

[Dish]

My lord, Sam Darnold, I'd be ecstatic for the Bears to go 0-16 next year. That dude will be an NFL STUD.

[MU82]

Aaron Rodgers sucks. Mike McCarthy sucks.

Blah blah effen blah.

[mu03eng]

My lord, Sam Darnold, I'd be ecstatic for the Bears to go 0-16 next year. That dude will be an NFL STUD.

The same could have been said about Christian Hackenburg after his freshman year. Don't get me wrong I think Darnold could be a very good NFL QB but I wouldn't crown him just yet

[Dish]

The same could have been said about Christian Hackenburg after his freshman year. Don't get me wrong I think Darnold could be a very good NFL QB but I wouldn't crown him just yet

Different guys altogether, Darnold has the bloodlines, pedigree already. He also has "It", you know it when you see it. I never thought that about Hackenburg. I'm not basing this off one game either, I watched Darnold since the Washington game, dude is playing like a pro.

A lot can happen, but I believe he will be an All Pro NFL QB on a yearly basis.

[tower912]

In Sunday night's Lions/Packers game, early on when the players were introducing themselves, NBC scrolled the player's positional rank in the NFL.    Nobody on Detroit's defense was higher than 25 and a couple were over 100.     Which confirms what I thought.   Detroit has done it with smoke, mirrors, and Matthew Stafford.    And Stafford hasn't been the same since he injured his finger.   

[MerrittsMustache]

In Sunday night's Lions/Packers game, early on when the players were introducing themselves, NBC scrolled the player's positional rank in the NFL.    Nobody on Detroit's defense was higher than 25 and a couple were over 100.     Which confirms what I thought.   Detroit has done it with smoke, mirrors, and Matthew Stafford.    And Stafford hasn't been the same since he injured his finger.   

The Lions remind me of the 2001 Bears, who went 13-3 with smoke, mirrors and some fortunate bounces. Would anyone really be surprised if this same core of Lions went 5-11 next season?

[MU B2002]

The Lions remind me of the 2001 Bears, who went 13-3 with smoke, mirrors and some fortunate bounces. Would anyone really be surprised if this same core of Lions went 5-11 next season?

THat's the team that got bounced by the Eagles or Panthers?

[tower912]

The Lions remind me of the 2001 Bears, who went 13-3 with smoke, mirrors and some fortunate bounces. Would anyone really be surprised if this same core of Lions went 5-11 next season?

Depends on the draft and the health of Abdullah, Ansah, and Levy.    If those three had been healthy all year and playing to their ability, Detroit probably wins two more games and doesn't need all of the 4th quarter comebacks.   But injuries are part of it.  (see:  Green Bay defense)
Health for those three, and a couple of defensive playmakers.   

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

THat's the team that got bounced by the Eagles or Panthers?

Abolutely smoked by a young (and still mobile) Mcnabb and the Eagles I believe. That was the Jim Miller led Bears, where safety Mike Brown won back to back games in OT against the 49ers and Browns, with two tipped passes for two pick 6s.

That season is probably my earliest sports memory, I was like 7 or 8 at the time.

[wadesworld]

My lord, Sam Darnold, I'd be ecstatic for the Bears to go 0-16 next year. That dude will be an NFL STUD.

Are you sure you didn't mean 16-0?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/alshon-jeffery-guarantees-3-13-bears-will-win-super-bowl-next-yearr-010117%3Famp%3Dtrue

Hilarious.

[brandx]

The Lions remind me of the 2001 Bears, who went 13-3 with smoke, mirrors and some fortunate bounces. Would anyone really be surprised if this same core of Lions went 5-11 next season?

They got two things going against them.

1. Law of Regression.
2. All of those late game heroics tend to go back to normal the next year.

[Dish]

Are you sure you didn't mean 16-0?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/alshon-jeffery-guarantees-3-13-bears-will-win-super-bowl-next-yearr-010117%3Famp%3Dtrue

Hilarious.

Alshon will be an Eagle, Bengal, or Titan next year.

[tower912]

Caldwell will be brought back next year for the Lions.  On balance, he has earned it.  Playoffs 2 out of 3 years.  Best winning % of any Lions coach during the Super Bowl era.  Detroit made the playoffs getting nothing from Ansah, Levy, or Abdullah.  With no running game, no pass rush, and no linebacker play to speak of.  Getting torched by tight ends.  With a young, beat up offensive line.  Dude actually deserves a plaque.

[brandx]

Caldwell will be brought back next year for the Lions.  On balance, he has earned it.  Playoffs 2 out of 3 years.  Best winning % of any Lions coach during the Super Bowl era.  Detroit made the playoffs getting nothing from Ansah, Levy, or Abdullah.  With no running game, no pass rush, and no linebacker play to speak of.  Getting torched by tight ends.  With a young, beat up offensive line.  Dude actually deserves a plaque.

I don't think most people have any idea of how good Caldwell is. They just see an expressionless statue on the sidelines and use that image to cloud their judgement.

As a GB fan, I am all for the Lions firing Caldwell.

[GB Warrior]

I don't think most people have any idea of how good Caldwell is. They just see an expressionless statue on the sidelines and use that image to cloud their judgement.

As a GB fan, I am all for the Lions firing Caldwell.

Lane Kiffin to Detroit

[wadesworld]

Ugh. There's the Mac TO I hate to see. Especially there. Give up the extra 4 seconds, have them come out of the 2 minute warning, see what happens on 2nd and 9, and if you get it to 3rd and long with a running clock then take a TO. That's so dumb to take one on second and 9 going into the 2 minute warning.

[rocket surgeon]

Well, 3 for 3 on Hail Marys hohum. Should make his half stats look a little better. Skip Bay less just blew a vein in his forehead all over whoever was sitting next to him

[4everwarriors]

Pretty unfookin' believable for da non-leader, hey?

[rocket surgeon]

just gonna have to run the table, it's what's for dinner hey