NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17

[GooooMarquette]

Clutch or not, the Packers won and the Bears still suck.

[Dish]

Outcome of Pack/Bears should please all in involved, rare that a game can end with both fan bases coming away happy.

[brandx]

It's simple really...the Bears aren't as bad as everyone thinks, the Packers aren't as good as people think, division game in mid December, crummy conditions. Plus...it's football, stuff happens.

As I said, there was a reason Vegas had opened that line at Pack -4. Bears are the hottest team in the NFL with 5 straight covers (including today)...this isn't hard to read between the lines guys.

The guys in Vegas are really good ..... but even they can't foresee a WR dropping 2 gimme TDs or a porous 'D' allowing 3 75+ yard drives to Matt Barley in one quarter. This was very nearly an epic collapse of Seattlean proportions.

[MerrittsMustache]

The guys in Vegas are really good ..... but even they can't foresee a WR dropping 2 gimme TDs or a porous 'D' allowing 3 75+ yard drives to Matt Barley in one quarter. This was very nearly an epic collapse of Seattlean proportions.

The prediction was that the game would be within 4 points. It was. Vegas doesn't have to go into details.

[MUBurrow]

The guys in Vegas are really good ..... but even they can't foresee a WR dropping 2 gimme TDs or a porous 'D' allowing 3 75+ yard drives to Matt Barley in one quarter. This was very nearly an epic collapse of Seattlean proportions.

Highlights that the Vegas perspective is the "what" and the fan perspective is the "how."  For Packers fans, there's a lot of familiar narratives to how the game went down. All of those past games that come to fans' minds, and just about every other game of the past 5-10 years, are the data points that are built into Vegas' lines to project the outcome.  So everyone's right. Vegas wouldn't have predicted that play-by-play of how yesterday went down, but in the aggregate, it was clearly spot on when the final whistle blew.

[jsglow]

Clutch or not, the Packers won and the Bears still suck.

This.  Football season over in Chicago.  Has been for many weeks. Onto basketball season locally.  Oh, despite my love for Jimmy and Dwayne, that ain't working out so well.  #fearthedeer
At least we still have the Hawks.

[BM1090]

The prediction was that the game would be within 4 points. It was. Vegas doesn't have to go into details.

No it wasn't. The prediction was that by putting the line at 4 points, they'd get 50% of the money on each side of that line. The Packers could have won by 5, it wouldn't have made Vegas wrong because the game wasn't within 4 points.

[MerrittsMustache]

No it wasn't. The prediction was that by putting the line at 4 points, they'd get 50% of the money on each side of that line. The Packers could have won by 5, it wouldn't have made Vegas wrong because the game wasn't within 4 points.

You're right. I guess I should have said that Vegas predicted the final score would be close. Does that make you feel better?

[BM1090]

You're right. I guess I should have said that Vegas predicted the final score would be close. Does that make you feel better?

No, I was feeling fine to begin with. Thanks for asking.

[Benny B]

I overheard a conversation at lunch yesterday between a Bear fan and a Packer fan that I found quite entertaining.  Obviously, both were ribbing each other, but the Bears fan was really laying in because he thought the Bears were the better team, had all the momentum at the end of the game, and simply got burnt by a lucky play.  The retort from the Packer fan was awesome...

[Paraphrasing]

Packer Fan: You know what that game was?  It was like playing Madden against your 5 year old kid.  Your competitive nature has you run the score up early, but then your conscience kicks in and you feel bad, so you let the kid get back in the game so you don't damage him emotionally.  But since there's no way your going to let your kid beat you, your competitive side turns it back on at the very end and you get the win.  A win is a win... John Madden doesn't come on your TV with some analysis about how sh|tty your Playstation 2 team must be because you almost lost to a sh|tty team.



It went downhill from there, but I thought the analogy was quite funny.

[JWags85]

Sounds like both fans were morons.  The Bears fan for thinking they are any good and that the play was "lucky".  And the Packers fan for acting like they had it under control and didn't almost give the game away.

[MU B2002]

Sounds like both fans were morons.  The Bears fan for thinking they are any good and that the play was "lucky".  And the Packers fan for acting like they had it under control and didn't almost give the game away.

Agree.  Neither fan base has much to brag about during that game.  Although the Packers control their own fate to make the playoffs. And the Bears, well it's going to be another long off season for Bears fans, myself included.

[rocket surgeon]

Wasn't that game like Deja vu all over again?  12/29/2013 Aaron hits Cobb for a td on 4th and 8 with 38 seconds left to win 33-28.  This time a 60 yarder for the winning field goal with time running out

That's just not fair, 'ey?

[jsglow]

Wasn't that game like Deja vu all over again?  12/29/2013 Aaron hits Cobb for a td on 4th and 8 with 38 seconds left to win 33-28.  This time a 60 yarder for the winning field goal with time running out

That's just not fair, 'ey?

I thought the same thing. I suppose the difference was that this year's Packers had no business putting themselves in that position.

The reality is that if the Pack keeps this going, one bad quarter will quickly be forgotten.

[rocket surgeon]

I thought the same thing. I suppose the difference was that this year's Packers had no business putting themselves in that position.

The reality is that if the Pack keeps this going, one bad quarter will quickly be forgotten.

  Like a big cat playin with its food, enna so? 

What did Aaron say again?  No worries, AND,  something about winning out

[GGGG]

I think even if they win today, they will have a lot of trouble next week. 

[Dish]

These games today should have been played on Monday.

[brandx]

Dom has got the boys ready to play again.

I guess no one can stop the Barleys and Bradfords of the world.

[wadesworld]

These games today should have been played on Monday.

As a fan I like this format. With no NBA games today there would be no good TV to watch today.

Now I get NFL games Saturday, Sunday, and Monday and have the big NBA games Sunday as well.

[wadesworld]

The consensus is out on the Queens, and it is is that their season is over.

Doesn't really matter who was under center or who was behind that person under center.  With that offensive line?  Never a chance.

But hey, I'm sure they'll address the issue with their mid first round pi...oh wait, they don't have one of those thanks to this guy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/clay-matthews-demolishes-sam-bradford-192714094.html

[brandx]

The consensus is out on the Queens, and it is is that their season is over.

Doesn't really matter who was under center or who was behind that person under center.  With that offensive line?  Never a chance.

But hey, I'm sure they'll address the issue with their mid first round pi...oh wait, they don't have one of those thanks to this guy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/clay-matthews-demolishes-sam-bradford-192714094.html

While I agree with the premise, the Pack has now allowed back-to-back stiffs to put up 50+ points and 900+ yards.

[BM1090]

While I agree with the premise, the Pack has now allowed back-to-back stiffs to put up 50+ points and 900+ yards.

Don't think this is fair today. They pulled starters in the 4th when they went up 25. Thought the defense played well overall.

Last week....different story

[wadesworld]

Don't think this is fair today. They pulled starters in the 4th when they went up 25. Thought the defense played well overall.

Last week....different story

Even last week I'm not really sure what someone can expect out of a defense when they're on the field for 13 minutes in a single quarter. Start with the Bears ball, then the next 2 Packers possessions were 3 and outs with a total of -1 yards through the air. When you're on the field as much as they were, chances are you're going to give up some yardage and points. Plus no Perry or (for all intents and purposes) Matthews doesn't help the cause.

[brandx]

Even last week I'm not really sure what someone can expect out of a defense when they're on the field for 13 minutes in a single quarter. Start with the Bears ball, then the next 2 Packers possessions were 3 and outs with a total of -1 yards through the air. When you're on the field as much as they were, chances are you're going to give up some yardage and points. Plus no Perry or (for all intents and purposes) Matthews doesn't help the cause.

In reality, they were on the field for 13 minutes because they could not stop anything.

[wadesworld]

In reality, they were on the field for 13 minutes because they could not stop anything.

Back to back 3 and outs (with a thinned out defense due to injuries) is one way to guarantee your defense won't be stopping much.