#7 seed Bracketology (2/25)

[WarriorPride68]

The NIT Bracketology site updated after the Creighton win & before the Villanova loss. Had MU as a 7 seed (out of 8) & on the fringe of being knocked out thanks to the Auto bids.

http://www.nycbuckets.com/2016/02/nit-bracketology-feb-25-2016/

(Sorry if this has been posted and discussed)

[GooooMarquette]

While I wish we weren't in the lower reaches of the NIT discussion, imagine if we were Georgetown - picked second in the BE preseason poll, and now possibly even on the outside of the NIT.  Or Butler - picked third, and now on the NCAA/NIT fringe.  http://www.bigeast.com/news/2015/10/13/MBB_1013152011.aspx

I know - no moral victories.  But it could be a lot worse.

[mu_hilltopper]

That belongs on a t-shirt!

None of this "WIN EVERY DAY" stuff.

.. "IT COULD BE WORSE."

[WarriorPride68]

Last year 12 automatic bids made the NIT (out of 32). Eliminating 6-8 seeds from at large contention.

-- Is there an RPI range for the NIT we should be looking at? Currently 110

[keefe]

Frankly, I am not interested in the NIT. Whether we get invited or not is immaterial.

[fjm]

Frankly, I am not interested in the NIT. Whether we get invited or not is immaterial.

It's ok to not be interested, no one is going to make you watch. But I Disagree with the second half. This young team needs the extra games and the valuable experience of playing in a tourney.

[tower912]

This season has always been about building for 16-17.  Any extra games in a tournament environment are helpful.

[Nukem2]

Last year 12 automatic bids made the NIT (out of 32). Eliminating 6-8 seeds from at large contention.

-- Is there an RPI range for the NIT we should be looking at? Currently 110

With the auto bids in place, the RPI cutoff has been about 90 the past 2 years.

[jsglow]

Last year's final 2 at large:

102  Arizona St.  17-15
104  Vanderbilt    19-13

[ChicosBailBonds]

While I wish we weren't in the lower reaches of the NIT discussion, imagine if we were Georgetown - picked second in the BE preseason poll, and now possibly even on the outside of the NIT.  Or Butler - picked third, and now on the NCAA/NIT fringe.  http://www.bigeast.com/news/2015/10/13/MBB_1013152011.aspx

I know - no moral victories.  But it could be a lot worse.

This is why preseason polls and predictions are a joke.

[Nukem2]

Last year's final 2 at large:

102  Arizona St.  17-15
104  Vanderbilt    19-13

In Buzz's last year MU had an RPI of 97 and was not invited. 

[NorthernDancerColt]

Last year's final 2 at large:

102  Arizona St.  17-15
104  Vanderbilt    19-13

It doesn't sound right to use "at-large" in conjunction with the NIT.

[bilsu]

This indicates that you have to have a winning record to make the NIT. At one point I thought the NIT would take teams with losing records. Maybe that changed when they decided to take the conference champions that do not get NCAA torunament bids.

[bilsu]

It doesn't sound right to use "at-large" in conjunction with the NIT.

At-large means ytou did not get an automatic bid. conference champions who do not get NCAA bids get automatic bids to NIT.

[forgetful]

I don't understand the lack of respect for the Big East this year.

We as a league have the 2nd best record, 31-19 against other power conferences.  The only league beating that is the Big 12.

In the big 12, our record would be an NCAA guarantee, but we are stuck hoping on the NIT.

[martyconlonontherun]

Normally I'm not a fan of the NIT but it would be good to get the extra games for the young guys and we would get a few extra games of ellenson in a MU jersey.

[Jay Bee]

This indicates that you have to have a winning record to make the NIT. At one point I thought the NIT would take teams with losing records. Maybe that changed when they decided to take the conference champions that do not get NCAA torunament bids.

I believe that for the past decade teams with a losing record have been eligible to be selected; however, none have been selected.

[bilsu]

That makes sense. Thanks

[jsglow]

In Buzz's last year MU had an RPI of 97 and was not invited.

Didn't deserve it.  17-15 having lost 4 straight down the stretch.  I looked back.  After a February 27th win against GTown we were 17-11.  A serious push could have taken that group dancing.  Guess old Buzz had other things on his mind by then.  Buh bye.

[jsglow]

I just ran the wizard.  With the following:

GTown win
Butler   loss
DePaul win
Nova    loss

20-13 RPI 107.  Pretty tough.  Hope for very few single dancer conference upsets.

[Coleman]

I don't understand the lack of respect for the Big East this year.

We as a league have the 2nd best record, 31-19 against other power conferences.  The only league beating that is the Big 12.

In the big 12, our record would be an NCAA guarantee, but we are stuck hoping on the NIT.

That is indicative of a lack of respect for our non-conference SOS, which is deserved. Our historically awful scheduling cost us a bid, not a lack of respect for the Big East. If you want to point fingers, point them at MU.

[Coleman]

I just ran the wizard.  With the following:

GTown win
Butler   loss
DePaul win
Nova    loss

20-13 RPI 107.  Pretty tough.  Hope for very few single dancer conference upsets.

What about a win over Butler? 21-12.

[jsglow]

What about a win over Butler? 21-12.

Certainly possible.  And then maybe out of the Wednesday game in NYC towards a winnable second round against a comparable opponent prior to a Big 3 matchup.

[MU TommyDieHard]

What are we building towards for next year if Ellenson leaves?

[CTWarrior]

This indicates that you have to have a winning record to make the NIT. At one point I thought the NIT would take teams with losing records. Maybe that changed when they decided to take the conference champions that do not get NCAA torunament bids.

The NIT said they would take teams with losing records at the same time they announced that they would take conference champs that didn't qualify for the NCAAs.  That was because it was theoretically possible for a team with a losing overall record to be the regular season champ of a terrible conference.  Lehigh came close to that this year, for example.  I don't think they ever planned on taking "at-large" teams with losing records.