Author Topic: #7 seed Bracketology (2/25) (Read 10903 times)

WarriorPride68 · « **on:** February 28, 2016, 01:17:01 PM »

The NIT Bracketology site updated after the Creighton win & before the Villanova loss. Had MU as a 7 seed (out of 8) & on the fringe of being knocked out thanks to the Auto bids.

http://www.nycbuckets.com/2016/02/nit-bracketology-feb-25-2016/

(Sorry if this has been posted and discussed)

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2016, 01:28:18 PM »

While I wish we weren't in the lower reaches of the NIT discussion, imagine if we were Georgetown - picked second in the BE preseason poll, and now possibly even on the outside of the NIT. Or Butler - picked third, and now on the NCAA/NIT fringe. http://www.bigeast.com/news/2015/10/13/MBB_1013152011.aspx

I know - no moral victories. But it could be a lot worse.

mu_hilltopper · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2016, 01:34:05 PM »

That belongs on a t-shirt!

None of this "WIN EVERY DAY" stuff.

.. "IT COULD BE WORSE."

WarriorPride68 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2016, 01:39:35 PM »

Last year 12 automatic bids made the NIT (out of 32). Eliminating 6-8 seeds from at large contention.

-- Is there an RPI range for the NIT we should be looking at? Currently 110

keefe · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2016, 01:59:10 PM »

Frankly, I am not interested in the NIT. Whether we get invited or not is immaterial.

fjm · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2016, 02:07:23 PM »

Quote from: keefe on February 28, 2016, 01:59:10 PM

Frankly, I am not interested in the NIT. Whether we get invited or not is immaterial.

It's ok to not be interested, no one is going to make you watch. But I Disagree with the second half. This young team needs the extra games and the valuable experience of playing in a tourney.

tower912 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2016, 02:28:06 PM »

This season has always been about building for 16-17. Any extra games in a tournament environment are helpful.

Nukem2 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2016, 02:46:52 PM »

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 28, 2016, 01:39:35 PM

Last year 12 automatic bids made the NIT (out of 32). Eliminating 6-8 seeds from at large contention.

-- Is there an RPI range for the NIT we should be looking at? Currently 110

With the auto bids in place, the RPI cutoff has been about 90 the past 2 years.

jsglow · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2016, 02:55:58 PM »

Last year's final 2 at large:

102 Arizona St. 17-15
104 Vanderbilt 19-13

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2016, 02:58:52 PM »

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 28, 2016, 01:28:18 PM

While I wish we weren't in the lower reaches of the NIT discussion, imagine if we were Georgetown - picked second in the BE preseason poll, and now possibly even on the outside of the NIT. Or Butler - picked third, and now on the NCAA/NIT fringe. http://www.bigeast.com/news/2015/10/13/MBB_1013152011.aspx

I know - no moral victories. But it could be a lot worse.

This is why preseason polls and predictions are a joke.

Nukem2 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2016, 03:21:01 PM »

Quote from: jsglow on February 28, 2016, 02:55:58 PM

Last year's final 2 at large:

102 Arizona St. 17-15
104 Vanderbilt 19-13

In Buzz's last year MU had an RPI of 97 and was not invited.

NorthernDancerColt · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2016, 09:07:57 PM »

Quote from: jsglow on February 28, 2016, 02:55:58 PM

Last year's final 2 at large:

102 Arizona St. 17-15
104 Vanderbilt 19-13

It doesn't sound right to use "at-large" in conjunction with the NIT.

bilsu · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2016, 09:15:14 PM »

This indicates that you have to have a winning record to make the NIT. At one point I thought the NIT would take teams with losing records. Maybe that changed when they decided to take the conference champions that do not get NCAA torunament bids.

bilsu · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2016, 09:21:02 PM »

Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on February 28, 2016, 09:07:57 PM

It doesn't sound right to use "at-large" in conjunction with the NIT.

At-large means ytou did not get an automatic bid. conference champions who do not get NCAA bids get automatic bids to NIT.

forgetful · « **Reply #14 on:** February 29, 2016, 12:37:58 AM »

I don't understand the lack of respect for the Big East this year.

We as a league have the 2nd best record, 31-19 against other power conferences. The only league beating that is the Big 12.

In the big 12, our record would be an NCAA guarantee, but we are stuck hoping on the NIT.

martyconlonontherun · « **Reply #15 on:** February 29, 2016, 12:50:57 AM »

Normally I'm not a fan of the NIT but it would be good to get the extra games for the young guys and we would get a few extra games of ellenson in a MU jersey.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #16 on:** February 29, 2016, 03:42:08 AM »

Quote from: bilsu on February 28, 2016, 09:15:14 PM

This indicates that you have to have a winning record to make the NIT. At one point I thought the NIT would take teams with losing records. Maybe that changed when they decided to take the conference champions that do not get NCAA torunament bids.

I believe that for the past decade teams with a losing record have been eligible to be selected; however, none have been selected.

bilsu · « **Reply #17 on:** February 29, 2016, 07:19:36 AM »

That makes sense. Thanks

jsglow · « **Reply #18 on:** February 29, 2016, 07:28:59 AM »

Quote from: Nukem2 on February 28, 2016, 03:21:01 PM

In Buzz's last year MU had an RPI of 97 and was not invited.

Didn't deserve it. 17-15 having lost 4 straight down the stretch. I looked back. After a February 27th win against GTown we were 17-11. A serious push could have taken that group dancing. Guess old Buzz had other things on his mind by then. Buh bye.

jsglow · « **Reply #19 on:** February 29, 2016, 07:42:24 AM »

I just ran the wizard. With the following:

GTown win
Butler loss
DePaul win
Nova loss

20-13 RPI 107. Pretty tough. Hope for very few single dancer conference upsets.

Coleman · « **Reply #20 on:** February 29, 2016, 08:39:25 AM »

Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2016, 12:37:58 AM

I don't understand the lack of respect for the Big East this year.

We as a league have the 2nd best record, 31-19 against other power conferences. The only league beating that is the Big 12.

In the big 12, our record would be an NCAA guarantee, but we are stuck hoping on the NIT.

That is indicative of a lack of respect for our non-conference SOS, which is deserved. Our historically awful scheduling cost us a bid, not a lack of respect for the Big East. If you want to point fingers, point them at MU.

Coleman · « **Reply #21 on:** February 29, 2016, 08:41:23 AM »

Quote from: jsglow on February 29, 2016, 07:42:24 AM

I just ran the wizard. With the following:

GTown win
Butler loss
DePaul win
Nova loss

20-13 RPI 107. Pretty tough. Hope for very few single dancer conference upsets.

What about a win over Butler? 21-12.

jsglow · « **Reply #22 on:** February 29, 2016, 09:07:52 AM »

Quote from: Coleman on February 29, 2016, 08:41:23 AM

What about a win over Butler? 21-12.

Certainly possible. And then maybe out of the Wednesday game in NYC towards a winnable second round against a comparable opponent prior to a Big 3 matchup.

MU TommyDieHard · « **Reply #23 on:** February 29, 2016, 10:59:47 AM »

What are we building towards for next year if Ellenson leaves?

CTWarrior · « **Reply #24 on:** February 29, 2016, 11:28:43 AM »

Quote from: bilsu on February 28, 2016, 09:15:14 PM

This indicates that you have to have a winning record to make the NIT. At one point I thought the NIT would take teams with losing records. Maybe that changed when they decided to take the conference champions that do not get NCAA torunament bids.

The NIT said they would take teams with losing records at the same time they announced that they would take conference champs that didn't qualify for the NCAAs. That was because it was theoretically possible for a team with a losing overall record to be the regular season champ of a terrible conference. Lehigh came close to that this year, for example. I don't think they ever planned on taking "at-large" teams with losing records.

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