Butler thoughts

[tower912]

Teal?

[dgies9156]

Teal?

No. With 2 seconds left, look how far off Roosevelt Sandy was playing. Yes, he was lucky. But don't give him an open shot, no matter where he is!

[GGGG]

I don't think you "go off" on the team after playing its best half in awhile for not playing tight enough on a 3/4 court shot.  The last thing you want is for them to be too aggressive in that situation and foul.

[GGGG]

BTW, that was Jones first 3 pt FG make of his entire career. 

[brewcity77]

BTW, that was Jones first 3 pt FG make of his entire career.

Exactly. Jones had only attempted three shots from beyond the arc in his career. If Luke was teeing up from there, would you fault Butler if they didn't guard him tight? It was disappointing, but a lucky miracle heave that was the least of our issues yesterday.

[NickelDimer]

Teal?

Seriously...

[MU82]

No. With 2 seconds left, look how far off Roosevelt Sandy was playing. Yes, he was lucky. But don't give him an open shot, no matter where he is!

If you were the coach, how much would you "go off" on the team if they committed a foul on a guy shooting a 75-footer?

[bilsu]

I don't think you "go off" on the team after playing its best half in awhile for not playing tight enough on a 3/4 court shot.  The last thing you want is for them to be too aggressive in that situation and foul.

Well, I cannot help but think Wojo was responsible for that play. He called a timeout to set up a play that would use as much of the shot clock as possible. The play ended up with Duane having to force a well covered three. Unfortunately the refs thought it was a shot clock violation and stopped the clock, which help set up the final shot. What I did not like was not getting a good shot at the end of the shot clock. A good shot is more important than using as much time as possible with no chance of scoring.

[GGGG]

Coaches always seem to want to use the "use it or lose it" timeout at the end of the first half.  And it never seems to result in anything positive.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Coaches always seem to want to use the "use it or lose it" timeout at the end of the first half.  And it never seems to result in anything positive.

Cheatham started that play with six seconds go in the shot clock, but it was too complicated at that point they way it was drawn up. It would have just been better for him to go 1:1 with the hope of gettng to the line as MU was in the bonus (if you are going to start the play that late). MU needed to start the designed play with about 11 clicks left on the shot clock. I think it was a good time out obviously, just that the execution of the play kicked off too late for a slow developing play.

As to the Jones toss, it would be better to position a defender just in front of him, not behind with that little time left. Most last second chucks use the sideline curl to allow for forward momemtun toward the hoop on the toss. If you position a player just in front, the inbounder has to throw it over and the shooter has to catch it flatfooted (and you still don't have to worry about fouling the shooter). That said, it was lucky.

[Jay Bee]

MU was probably afraid of being anywhere near Jones when he launched that prayer. Dude was MMA elbowing Duane and getting fouls called his way.

That's true of a lot of games. An important difference, I thought, was MU's shot selection. Not that every attempt was a good one. But the majority were. They drove, probed and passed until they got a good look.

Hopefully this game indicates that Marquette is learning what team offense and defense mean, and why shot selection is so important. Take good shots, you make more shots.

Most probably wouldn't have called Henry and Traci from 3 a good shot coming into yesterday's game.. except for their 3-point shooting, the team only shot 50.0% eFG%.

MU went 10/17 from deep. That won them the game.

Can they 'build on it?' I'll leave that one alone...

[jsglow]

Coaches always seem to want to use the "use it or lose it" timeout at the end of the first half.  And it never seems to result in anything positive.

'Use it or lose it' was eliminated this year.

[warriorchick]

If you were the coach, how much would you "go off" on the team if they committed a foul on a guy shooting a 75-footer?

Exactly.

Chances of Rosey making that shot: probably  1 in 1000 (and I am being kind to him here)

Chances of getting a foul called on us while trying to defend that shot: probably 1 in 20.

[GGGG]

'Use it or lose it' was eliminated this year.

Then I have no explanation for why he would use a timeout there.

[wadesworld]

We let up on that shot. If I was Wojo, I would have gone off on the team at halftime over that one. In a close game like yesterday, every basket counts, even the improbable ones. We should have played him a whole lot tighter than we did.

The chances of Jones hitting that shot were waaaaaaaaay lower than were the chances of us being called for a foul if we tried to play them tight on defense there, leading to 2 free throws.  If they want to inbound it to 80 feet from their basket with 2 seconds left you let them do it all they want.

[wadesworld]

Coaches always seem to want to use the "use it or lose it" timeout at the end of the first half.  And it never seems to result in anything positive.

More than anything I think he used it to get Duane back in on the offensive end for our last offensive possession.  Prior to Butler's 2nd last possession of the half there was a stoppage.  Wojo got Duane out (with 2 fouls) before that possession knowing that he would use his timeout to get Duane back into the game (as well as draw up a play while at it).

[brewcity77]

Just rewatched the lead up to halftime. First, bad that we didn't get a shot up. Duane forced a zero chance three when Cheatham was wide open not 10 feet away. Plenty of time to make the easy pass.

Second, Jones was not who Butler wanted. Etherington used 4 seconds and looked at every other option first. Every other option was well covered. It was the first and likely last three Jones will ever hit. Simply, $#!+ happens.

[MomofMUltiples]

'Use it or lose it' was eliminated this year.

My understanding is that teams can only use three timeouts in the second half. So use it or lose it is still in effect. But it is surprising that coaches decide to use it when things are bumping along just fine.

[dgies9156]

If you were the coach, how much would you "go off" on the team if they committed a foul on a guy shooting a 75-footer?

OK, I was probably aggressive in "going off" on guys who had a great first half and whose second half adjustments were wonderful. But the lesson is not to take that situation for granted. Even getting a hand in his field of vision could have re-directed the shot ever so slightly away from what happened.

The lesson is don't take anything for granted, including the strong likelihood that ole Roosevelt was heaving the basketball into the third row!

[Dr. Blackheart]

My understanding is that teams can only use three timeouts in the second half. So use it or lose it is still in effect. But it is surprising that coaches decide to use it when things are bumping along just fine.

Correct.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2015-06-08/ncaa-changes-shot-clock-30-seconds-makes-other-changes-game

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

OK, I was probably aggressive in "going off" on guys who had a great first half and whose second half adjustments were wonderful. But the lesson is not to take that situation for granted. Even getting a hand in his field of vision could have re-directed the shot ever so slightly away from what happened.

The lesson is don't take anything for granted, including the strong likelihood that ole Roosevelt was heaving the basketball into the third row!

Getting a hand in his field of vision had just as much likelihood to redirect it into the hoop as it did to redirect it out of the hoop. That shot is pure luck. No skill whatsoever. No defense for that. Leaving him alone was the best defensive decision. He misses that shot 999 times out of 1000

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If the team that showed up last night showed up for all of our games this season, we'd have two losses, Iowa and @NOVA. We played close to our ceiling yesterday. Unreasonable to expect we'll play at that level from here on out. Hopefully that ceiling becomes the norm next season when our team grows up

[PGsHeroes32]

If the team that showed up last night showed up for all of our games this season, we'd have two losses, Iowa and @NOVA. We played close to our ceiling yesterday. Unreasonable to expect we'll play at that level from here on out. Hopefully that ceiling becomes the norm next season when our team grows up

Idk. If we shoot like we did yesterday vs Nova we might have won that one.

[brewcity77]

Idk. If we shoot like we did yesterday vs Nova we might have won that one.

Agreed. Play 40 minutes like we did yesterday and Nova never would have reached a 22 game league winning streak.

[jsglow]

My understanding is that teams can only use three timeouts in the second half. So use it or lose it is still in effect. But it is surprising that coaches decide to use it when things are bumping along just fine.

I stand corrected.