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Knowing What We Know Now Would You Prefer Wojo or Buzz?

Wojo
Buzz

Herman Cain

Knowing what we know now, would You prefer Buzz who has taken a doormat program and breathed some viability into it? Or Would You prefer Wojo and his recruit prowess and hope he builds us into a consistent NCAA team?

"Enquiring Minds" want to know?
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 21, 2016, 09:26:12 PM
Knowing what we know now, would You prefer Buzz who has taken a doormat program and breathed some viability into it? Or Would You prefer Wojo and his recruit prowess and hope he builds us into a consistent NCAA team?

"Enquiring Minds" want to know?

What about the inverse.  Buzz took a solid program, and mailed it in his last year.  We had awesome coverage on the front of the Chicago Tribune because of his players for all the wrong reasons.  So on and so forth. 

Ask this question in a few more years. 

Herman Cain

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 21, 2016, 10:53:56 PM
What about the inverse.  Buzz took a solid program, and mailed it in his last year.  We had awesome coverage on the front of the Chicago Tribune because of his players for all the wrong reasons.  So on and so forth. 

Ask this question in a few more years.
I guess you voted Wojo lol
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WarriorPride68

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 21, 2016, 10:53:56 PM
What about the inverse.  Buzz took a solid program, and mailed it in his last year.  We had awesome coverage on the front of the Chicago Tribune because of his players for all the wrong reasons.  So on and so forth. 

Ask this question in a few more years.

It's just a poll

WarriorFan

Guess we knew this was coming...

Which buzz?  Early, ambitious, slightly bizarre but interesting Buzz, or Later, once we understood he was totally off his rocker out of control psycho Buzz?
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Quote from: WarriorFan on January 22, 2016, 06:01:10 AM
Guess we knew this was coming...

Which buzz?  Early, ambitious, slightly bizarre but interesting Buzz, or Later, once we understood he was totally off his rocker out of control psycho Buzz?

I love this.  It is like the different stages of Elvis

ATWizJr

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 22, 2016, 06:08:53 AM
I love this.  It is like the different stages of Elvis

Do you mean the Buzz whose team is now ranked ahead of us by Kenpom?

Small Orange Soda

Hopefully the Buzz who made the tourney the first five years instead of bombing the sixth.  Same way I'd hope for the Crean who made the final four instead of the guy who won one tourney game his other eight years. 

As for Wojo, to have a McDonald's AA and not make the tourney is a failure, especially for a non elite program like ours.  I've been disappointed thus far.  Hope he turns it around.  Not giving up on him though.

bilsu


vogue65

Very, very hard call and really apples and oranges, I'll pass.

I think Buzz knew the hand writing was on the wall long before his last season.
Wojo is doing exactly what his superiors want him to do.

The good image of the University is more important than winning although we would like to have both. 

Lighthouse 84

I voted Wojo and Buzz because I could select up to two.

I'll take Wojo over Buzz.  Woj will get it done.  He didn't have the fullest of cupboards to work with when he took over.  Let's give it a little more time before declaring him a failure.
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Class71

Kind of a silly poll. Why not ask, win at any cost or first focus on high standards then winning. That is the real issue. The individuals are not important, the policy choice is. To be honest not sure where some/many people stand and it is an important issue going forward.
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Quote from: vogue65 on January 22, 2016, 07:24:38 AM
Very, very hard call and really apples and oranges, I'll pass.

I think Buzz knew the hand writing was on the wall long before his last season.
Wojo is doing exactly what his superiors want him to do.

The good image of the University is more important than winning although we would like to have both. 

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PBRme

Wojo needs his Raymonds/Wainwright. 

I think that would be 2 more wins this year
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I voted Wojo, but let's give the phony cowboy his due. He found that gem in the rough--the tide waters of Virginia--Ox.
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MerrittsMustache

If you're looking for a coach to win tomorrow's game, I'd go with Buzz.

If you're looking for a coach to get the very last ounce of ability out of a player, I'd go with Buzz.

If you're looking for a coach who's going to do whatever it takes to get a player admitted to school, even if it means ruffling some feathers internally, I'd go with Buzz.

If you're looking for a coach who's going to recruit well, bring in high character kids and be a strong, non-controversial face of the program, I'd go with Wojo.

Buzz is a better basketball coach right now but he also comes with a lot of quirks and isn't necessarily a "team guy" when it comes to dealings with the admins. Simply put, the guy can really coach, but his act wears on people. I'm hopeful that Wojo will replace Buzz in those first two scenarios listed above and that he's our guy for the long-term. The jury is still out on that, but he's got plenty of time to prove himself.


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Dawson Rental

Quote from: bilsu on January 22, 2016, 07:21:01 AM
I voted Crean

You could vote up to two times, but you weren't supposed to vote -1 times.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: PBRme on January 22, 2016, 08:42:36 AM
Wojo needs his Raymonds/Wainwright. 

I think that would be 2 more wins this year

I think this is what is called "magical thinking".
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on January 22, 2016, 09:24:38 AM
I think this is what is called "magical thinking".

Not really. It's pretty obvious that a Raymonds/Wainwright would have brought in Ben Simmons and Jawun Evans.


(I actually agree with the need for a grizzled X-O's coach to be on the bench but the "2 more wins" thing is a bit of a stretch)

GooooMarquette

Quote from: PBRme on January 22, 2016, 08:42:36 AM
Wojo needs his Raymonds/Wainwright. 

I think that would be 2 more wins this year

Cool.  What was Wainwright's win total under Buzz?

GoldenWarrior11

For me, I have no doubt that Buzz left at the optimal time (for him).  Having said that, I have always been curious as to what the team would have looked like in 2014-2015.  Luke Fisher was already transferred in from Indiana.  We were looking at a recruiting class of Ahmed Hill, Sandy Cohen, Marial Shayok and Satchel Pierce.  Rumors were that Steve Taylor, possibly others, may have transferred.

If Taylor leaves, I'm assuming Buzz brings in a Shane Henry or other JUCO.

It could have been worse or it could have been better.  It would have been interesting to see.

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jsheim

Unfair Poll!  but that's been said and who cares ... I voted.

I like Wojo and am glad he's here...and I'm glad for the change.....but I had to pick Buzz because he gave us an amazing set of years...everything was a little weird...remember the quotes, dancing at WV, March Madness fun, elite 8...

We have yet to experience Wojo-world...but I have to validate Buzzzzzzzzz.

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Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 22, 2016, 08:50:25 AM
If you're looking for a coach to win tomorrow's game, I'd go with Buzz.

If you're looking for a coach to get the very last ounce of ability out of a player, I'd go with Buzz.

If you're looking for a coach who's going to do whatever it takes to get a player admitted to school, even if it means ruffling some feathers internally, I'd go with Buzz.



And if you're looking for an MU coach as good or better than Buzz in these 3 areas, the only one in the photo is Al.

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