Big East Conference Results

[Marcus92]

Amazing how close the conference standings are once you get past Nova and Xavier. The next 5 teams (Seton Hall, Georgetown, Providence, Creighton and Butler) are all within 1-1/2 games of one another.

In other words, the difference between the 3rd and 7th best team in the Big East is practically imperceptible right now.

[Herman Cain]

Amazing how close the conference standings are once you get past Nova and Xavier. The next 5 teams (Seton Hall, Georgetown, Providence, Creighton and Butler) are all within 1-1/2 games of one another.

In other words, the difference between the 3rd and 7th best team in the Big East is practically imperceptible right now.

I have felt all year this conference is a Bear.

[BM1090]

Seton Hall might finish top 3/4.

If we can get to 6 I'll be happy. Opposite Villanova and only needing to win 3 games instead of 4.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I have felt all year this conference is a Bear.

You've mentioned that just a couple times.

[Herman Cain]

You've mentioned that just a couple times.

I guess so lol

[Herman Cain]

Good win for The Hall. Big game for them and Butler coming up .

[bilsu]

A while ago there was a thread asking whether we were better than last year. Looking at the standings it occurred to me that the difference between this year and last year is that St. John's has gone from an NCAA tourney team that we could not beat to a team that has not won a game in conference. My conclusion is that, if St. John's was as good as they were last year, we would be in last place again. I do think, with the exception of St. John's and maybe DePaul every team in the Big East is better than they were last year, so the league is tougher overall.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

A while ago there was a thread asking whether we were better than last year. Looking at the standings it occurred to me that the difference between this year and last year is that St. John's has gone from an NCAA tourney team that we could not beat to a team that has not won a game in conference. My conclusion is that, if St. John's was as good as they were last year, we would be in last place again. I do think, with the exception of St. John's and maybe DePaul every team in the Big East is better than they were last year, so the league is tougher overall.

If you do not see how much better this team is than last season's, I don't know what to tell you. This team would beat last year's team at least 7 out 10 times despite having way less experience. We are in a much better spot than we were last season. Try to enjoy it.

[Nukem2]

If you do not see how much better this team is than last season's, I don't know what to tell you. This team would beat last year's team at least 7 out 10 times despite having way less experience. We are in a much better spot than we were last season. Try to enjoy it.

Yep, agree with you.  Frustrating, but we are better.

[WarriorPride68]

If you do not see how much better this team is than last season's, I don't know what to tell you. This team would beat last year's team at least 7 out 10 times despite having way less experience. We are in a much better spot than we were last season. Try to enjoy it.

You are completely correct. Night & day difference from last year (worst record in MU history, correct?)

But I also understand the fans that are frustrated MU couldn't make tourney with a top 5 pick. It's bitter sweet; as we were a grad transfer away from dancing. Plenty to build on though.

[Dawson Rental]

You are completely correct. Night & day difference from last year (worst record in MU history, correct?)

But I also understand the fans that are frustrated MU couldn't make tourney with a top 5 pick. It's bitter sweet; as we were a grad transfer away from dancing. Plenty to build on though.

Worst record since Kevin O'Neill's second year (1990-91) when they went 11-18.

Dukiet went 10-18 in his second year (1987-88)

Al McGuire went 8-18 in his first year (1964-65)

Eddie Hickey went 5-21 in his last year - the year before Al (1963-64)
which is the record for most losses in a year.

Jack Nagle went 10-15 in (1956-57), so you're looking at the sixth worst record in the last 60 years of MU basketball that's not so bad, is it?

BTW, worst winning % ever was Bill Chandler who was 2-13 (13.33%) in (1940-41)

[WarriorPride68]

Eddie Hickey went 5-21 in his last year - the year before Al (1963-64)
which is the record for most losses in a year

Ah, I missed Hickey final season when I looked before. I was just looking at most losses. 19 last year is the 2nd most ever for Mu then it appears

[bilsu]

If you do not see how much better this team is than last season's, I don't know what to tell you. This team would beat last year's team at least 7 out 10 times despite having way less experience. We are in a much better spot than we were last season. Try to enjoy it.

I do think the team is better than last year. However, we were tied with Creighton for last place last year and they are 6-5 in conference. The conference appears to me to be tougher this year with the exception of St. John's. We beat St John's twice this year with them playing without their shot blocker. Last year we lost twice to St. John's. While we are better, we still might of finished last again except for St. John's becoming significantly worse than last year. DePaul may be worse than last year. Outside of that the other 8 teams including MU are better than last year. We still have to play Creighton twice and that will be a good comparison on how much the teams that shared last place last year have improved in relation to each other.

[Herman Cain]

1. Villanova
5. Xavier
20. Providence

Seton Hall getting votes in AP Poll and coaches poll.

Butler at Seton Hall Wednesday is a very big game for both schools and the league.  Butler really needs a win to remain in the conversation.

[Dawson Rental]

Looking ahead, the Big East really could benefit from Xavier and Villanova making some NCAA noise this year.

[Herman Cain]

Creighton off to a fast start against Xavier. Home crowd fires up. CBS sports network.

Villanova at DePaul at 7:30 FS1

[Herman Cain]

Creighton up by 10 over X at half

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Creighton up by 10 over X at half

Up 15 w 15 to go.

[Herman Cain]

Up 15 w 15 to go.

I really enjoy watching Creighton games with the big crowd. Classic battle with X tonight, Maurice Watson, Jr. is an exciting player for the Jays. Still up by 8 9 minutes

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Creighton going to win comfortably.

[Herman Cain]

Watson Jr playing like an All American tonight . Really fun to watch.

[Herman Cain]

Creighton 70-56

[nyg]

X shoots 1 for 21 from three tonight.  Can't make these things up.........

[WarriorPride68]

Creighton 70-56

Not looking forward to playing Creighton twice in the next couple weeks

[Herman Cain]

Not looking forward to playing Creighton twice in the next couple weeks

Not going to be easy wins. Should be very fun games though.