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We R Final Four

Easy wins for whom?
We don't have easy wins......much less against a better team like Creighton.

MarquetteDano

Creighton winning that game against X is bad for us.  I was hoping 9-9 (still think we end up 8-10) might get us 6th in conference.  Not looking very good for that now.

I think a seventh or eighth place finish is looking pretty likely.  Ugh.   :(

Wade for President

The bright side is that the win over X gives Creighton a marquee win, and might give them momentum to make a run for a bid.

Can you imagine this conference getting 7 teams in?!?  Definitely a possibility.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 09, 2016, 09:28:27 PM
Not looking forward to playing Creighton twice in the next couple weeks

Who do you look forward to playing with this team?

brewcity77

Quote from: Wade for President on February 10, 2016, 05:38:40 AM
The bright side is that the win over X gives Creighton a marquee win, and might give them momentum to make a run for a bid.

Can you imagine this conference getting 7 teams in?!?  Definitely a possibility.

I can't, unless Georgetown or Marquette get the auto bid. Non-con schedule kills both of us, albeit for different reasons.

bilsu

There is no way the Big East gets 7 bids. Providence will be out when we sweep them. Georgetown will be out when Seton Hall sweeps them. Even a Seton Hall split probably ends Georgetown.

The Equalizer


Quote from: brewcity77 on February 10, 2016, 06:10:54 AM
I can't, unless Georgetown or Marquette get the auto bid. Non-con schedule kills both of us, albeit for different reasons.

7 conference losses (so far) is far more damaging to us than the non-conference schedule.

If we were tied with Villanova at 11-1, nobody would be talking about our non-conference schedule hurting us.  In fact, if we were 9-3 (only losses at Xavier, at Villanova and at Seton Hall), nobody would be talking about our non-conference schedule.



brewcity77

Quote from: The Equalizer on February 10, 2016, 07:25:32 AM
7 conference losses (so far) is far more damaging to us than the non-conference schedule.

If we were tied with Villanova at 11-1, nobody would be talking about our non-conference schedule hurting us.  In fact, if we were 9-3 (only losses at Xavier, at Villanova and at Seton Hall), nobody would be talking about our non-conference schedule.

All true. But because of our non-con, we pretty much have to win out. Butler and Providence would likely get in at 8-10.

Georgetown, meanwhile, had 6 non-con losses. If they go 11-7, they'll have 14 losses as an at large. They might sneak in, but any worse I can't see. 15 losses is likely just too many.

MU82

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 10, 2016, 05:40:15 AM
Who do you look forward to playing with this team?

I look forward to playing every opponent.

Disclosure: I am a Marquette fan.

And you?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Benny B

Quote from: MU82 on February 10, 2016, 09:15:43 AM
I look forward to playing every opponent.

Disclosure: I am a Marquette fan.

And you?

This.  Me, I'm looking forward to (hopefully) playing Belmont again.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 09, 2016, 09:28:27 PM
Not looking forward to playing Creighton twice in the next couple weeks

Well, the Jay-Jays are a little less intimidating if you don't shoot 1-21 from deep.

The Equalizer

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 10, 2016, 08:05:40 AM
All true. But because of our non-con, we pretty much have to win out. Butler and Providence would likely get in at 8-10.

Georgetown, meanwhile, had 6 non-con losses. If they go 11-7, they'll have 14 losses as an at large. They might sneak in, but any worse I can't see. 15 losses is likely just too many.

Neither would get in at 8-10.

At best, .500 would put them on the bubble--although that keeps them well short of "likely" and they would have to hope that there are few upsets in the tournaments. 

And if MU is ahead of or tied with Butler and Providence in the standings with two wins over each of them, the head-to-head performance would take precedence over the non-conference schedule. 

Otherwise, you're expecting rational people prioritize non-conference buy games as being more important factors  than either conference play or head-to-head results.

BM1090

Quote from: The Equalizer on February 10, 2016, 10:29:09 AM
Neither would get in at 8-10.

At best, .500 would put them on the bubble--although that keeps them well short of "likely" and they would have to hope that there are few upsets in the tournaments. 

And if MU is ahead of or tied with Butler and Providence in the standings with two wins over each of them, the head-to-head performance would take precedence over the non-conference schedule. 

Otherwise, you're expecting rational people prioritize non-conference buy games as being more important factors  than either conference play or head-to-head results.

Disagree. The bubble is awful. Providence had one loss in non conference to MSU. A win over Arizona. Butler beat Purdue, only loss at Miami. We could see a lot of teams hovering around .500 get in this year (not just in the BE)

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on February 10, 2016, 11:14:36 AM
Disagree. The bubble is awful. Providence had one loss in non conference to MSU. A win over Arizona. Butler beat Purdue, only loss at Miami. We could see a lot of teams hovering around .500 get in this year (not just in the BE)

This. Providence and Butler are probably safe at 8-10. Check out the bubble. BE is going to get at a minimum 5 at large teams, and it's likely that 6 teams will be between 7-11 wins in conference.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on February 10, 2016, 10:03:59 AM
Well, the Jay-Jays are a little less intimidating if you don't shoot 1-21 from deep.

Very true :) I didn't see the game.

1-21 seems impossible after the way they shot Saturday. Good grief, used all the makes vs MU

Benny B

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on February 10, 2016, 11:14:36 AM
Disagree. The bubble is awful. Providence had one loss in non conference to MSU. A win over Arizona. Butler beat Purdue, only loss at Miami. We could see a lot of teams hovering around .500 get in this year (not just in the BE)

Lunardi's small bubble (last 2 in, first 2 out)








TeamOverallRPI/SOS   vs 1-50vs 1-100Best Win (RPI)Worst Loss (RPI)
Florida State16-739/78
3-5
6-7
Virginia (6)@Clemson (88)
Butler16-767/118
1-5
4-6
Purdue (21)@Marquette (106)
Cincinnati18-760/101
3-3
4-6
George Washington (34)@Memphis (114)
Vanderbilt13-1058/18
2-7
5-10
TAMU (19)@Arkansas (100)
Just for kicks:
Marquette15-9106/120
1-6
5-8
@Providence (32)vs. DePaul(142)

Given that Marquette is comparable with all four of these teams on various metrics (except RPI & the DePaul loss), I'd say this is a pretty sh|tty bubble.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Herman Cain

Butler at Seton Hall 6:30pm Eastern  FS1

This is a big game for the league overall.  Butler really needs this win to get back to .500. A win for Seton Hall would put them in a stronger position. 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Big win for Butler tonight over The Hall.

Things are getting bunched up. The BET is going to a whale of a tournament.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Would be good for us if Providence got back to their winning ways against Georgetown Saturday.

Xavier at Butler Saturday another key Big East game. Would like to see Butler pick that win up. I think Xavier safely in the tournament but would like to see Butler improve their Standing, and of course a stronger Butler enhances our win over them in the committee eyes. In that regard I was happy to see Purdue beat Michigan State the other night, that helps Butler since they beat Purdue.

Gets a bit complex at this point but that is the fun of it.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

WarriorPride68

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 11, 2016, 11:23:41 AM
I think Xavier safely in the tournament but would like to see Butler improve their Standing, and of course a stronger Butler enhances our win over them in the committee eyes. In that regard I was happy to see Purdue beat Michigan State the other night, that helps Butler since they beat Purdue.

For the NCAA tourney?

MU82

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 10, 2016, 09:06:09 PM
The BET is going to a whale of a tournament.

... for Marquette.

Gonna enjoy watching the lads celebrate, just as they did last time they were in NY. (Brooklyn, that is.)
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 10, 2016, 09:06:09 PM
Big win for Butler tonight over The Hall.

Things are getting bunched up. The BET is going to a whale of a tournament.

You sure it won't be a bear?  ;)
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

chapman

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 10, 2016, 09:06:09 PM
Things are getting bunched up.

I'd say.  We're in 8th, but two games out of 3rd.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Georgetown at Providence 12 eastern Fox

Xavier at Butler 230 eastern fox

St John's at Villanova 8 CBS sports network

Providence looking to get back to winning ways .

A Butler win would help secure their bid hopes.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

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