Big East Conference Results

[Herman Cain]

Creighton nice win over Butler. Maurice Watson is a high quality point guard. Creighton now 5-2 in Conference.  Butler joins us at 2-5.....

[We R Final Four]

So--this is good for the league or bad?
It's good--Creighton wins against a big east foe and they improve their tourney resume.......

It's bad--Butler really needed to win and remain in the top 25....or the betterment of the league of course.
My point is this is the Beast--when Georgetown and Creighton had several losses OOC early on in the season you suggested it would be best for the league if those who were winning continued to win. Cream rises--every team goes through the grind......twice.

[Herman Cain]

So--this is good for the league or bad?
It's good--Creighton wins against a big east foe and they improve their tourney resume.......

It's bad--Butler really needed to win and remain in the top 25....or the betterment of the league of course.
My point is this is the Beast--when Georgetown and Creighton had several losses OOC early on in the season you suggested it would be best for the league if those who were winning continued to win. Cream rises--every team goes through the grind......twice.

That is what is great about this league double round robin . There are no easy wins.

The more I watch Creighton the more I like them. Their transfer point guard is really coming on strong now.

Butler probably out of top 25 unless they go on a winning streak.

[Dr. Blackheart]

That is what is great about this league double round robin . There are no easy wins.

The more I watch Creighton the more I like them. Their transfer point guard is really coming on strong now.

Butler probably out of top 25 unless they go on a winning streak.

McBuckets Sr. has rebuilt a senior team after one down year.  Creighton was a great add to the BE with their fan base.

[vogue65]

McBuckets Sr. has rebuilt a senior team after one down year.  Creighton was a great add to the BE with their fan base.

Didn't think he could do it, I'm wrong again.

[bilsu]

I like Creighton and root for them, except for when thye play MU. Watching the game last night I started thinking about the second half of the season and how things often change. I could see Butler going 6-3 and Creighton going 3-6.

[Herman Cain]

Providence big overtime win over Villanova. This league is tough.

[Herman Cain]

This weeks poll
6. Villanova
7. Xavier
10.Providence
As expected Butler fell out of poll but did get votes.

League looking good.

[jsheim]

So top 6 of the last two years of 10 team BE play:

Tourney?	2013-2014	BE	BET	NonCon	Overall
X	Villanova	16-2	0-1	12-1	28-4
X	Creighton	14-4	2-1	10-2	26-7
X	Providence	10-8	3-0	10-3	23-11
X	Xavier	10-8	1-1	10-3	21-12
	St John's	10-8	0-1	10-3	20-12
	Marquette	9-9	0-1	8-5	17-15
	2014-2015
X	Villanova	16-2	3-0	13-0	32-2
X	Butler	12-6	0-1	10-3	22-10
X	Georgetown	12-6	1-1	8-3	21-10
X	Providence	11-7	1-1	10-3	22-11
X	St John's	10-8	0-1	11-2	21-11
X	Xavier	9-9	2-1	10-3	21-13

Lots more to it than record...quality wins, RPI, recent games...but I can see 6 BE teams getting in Tourney at 9-9 and above though I think MU needs 10-8 (I'm still hoping )

[Herman Cain]

So top 6 of the last two years of 10 team BE play:

Tourney?	2013-2014	BE	BET	NonCon	Overall
X	Villanova	16-2	0-1	12-1	28-4
X	Creighton	14-4	2-1	10-2	26-7
X	Providence	10-8	3-0	10-3	23-11
X	Xavier	10-8	1-1	10-3	21-12
	St John's	10-8	0-1	10-3	20-12
	Marquette	9-9	0-1	8-5	17-15
	2014-2015
X	Villanova	16-2	3-0	13-0	32-2
X	Butler	12-6	0-1	10-3	22-10
X	Georgetown	12-6	1-1	8-3	21-10
X	Providence	11-7	1-1	10-3	22-11
X	St John's	10-8	0-1	11-2	21-11
X	Xavier	9-9	2-1	10-3	21-13

Lots more to it than record...quality wins, RPI, recent games...but I can see 6 BE teams getting in Tourney at 9-9 and above though I think MU needs 10-8 (I'm still hoping )

Good analysis .I agree with you.

[brewcity77]

I can see 6 BE teams getting in Tourney at 9-9 and above though I think MU needs 10-8 (I'm still hoping )

It all depends on who finishes where. Marquette needs 11-7 and at least one at MSG to be a lock. Creighton and Georgetown also likely need 11 wins in league to have a good shot at getting in. Seton Hall would likely get there with 10 while 8 would be enough for Butler and Providence. Villanova and Xavier are practically locks already. 7-8 wins for either should be more than enough to get them in.

[Herman Cain]

Good games tonight

Creighton at Georgetown

Xavier at Providence

"This Big East Conference is a bear," Ed Cooley said. "You have to knuckle up every game and make sure you're detailed and disciplined."

[CTWarrior]

Good games tonight

Creighton at Georgetown

Xavier at Providence

"This Big East Conference is a bear," Ed Cooley said. "You have to knuckle up every game and make sure you're detailed and disciplined."

Total Creighton collapse against Georgetown.  They had that game won.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Ya, 11 point lead with about two minutes left and lose.

[MU82]

Very entertaining second half between X and Providence.

X built nice lead, Providence rallied to make X sweat, X held on to win despite Farr and Bluiett both fouling out.

X is the Big East's best FF prospect, IMHO. No real weakness, great balance and depth, nice size, can score in lots of ways, defends well. Also well-coached.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

It all depends on who finishes where. Marquette needs 11-7 and at least one at MSG to be a lock.

You keep saying this, but you're wrong.  If MU gets to 11-7 (they won't), they'll be safely in the field.

[Herman Cain]

Total Creighton collapse against Georgetown.  They had that game won.

DSR is a helluva clutch player for Georgetown.

Xavier is a very strong team.

[Herman Cain]

6:00 PM Central Depaul at Butler - CBS Sports
6:00 PM Central St. Johns at Seton Hall - FS1
8:00 PM Central Stetson at Marquette -FS1

Butler and Seton Hall wins would be helpful for our cause.

[The Equalizer]

6:00 PM Central Depaul at Butler - CBS Sports
6:00 PM Central St. Johns at Seton Hall - FS1
8:00 PM Central Stetson at Marquette -FS1

Butler and Seton Hall wins would be helpful for our cause.

I don't see it.

If both Butler and Seton Hall win, we wind up tied for 7th with Butler and a game behind Seton Hall.
If they both lose, we're tied for 6th with Seton Hall and a full game ahead of 8th place Butler.

I think DePaul and St. Johns wins would be most helpful for our cause.

[CTWarrior]

I don't see it.

If both Butler and Seton Hall win, we wind up tied for 7th with Butler and a game behind Seton Hall.
If they both lose, we're tied for 6th with Seton Hall and a full game ahead of 8th place Butler.

I think DePaul and St. Johns wins would be most helpful for our cause.

I assume he meant the general Big East's cause.  Considering where we are, the only thing that matters to MU right now is the games we play.  I'm not too worried about other conference games with regards to how it affects us.

[Herman Cain]

I don't see it.

If both Butler and Seton Hall win, we wind up tied for 7th with Butler and a game behind Seton Hall.
If they both lose, we're tied for 6th with Seton Hall and a full game ahead of 8th place Butler.

I think DePaul and St. Johns wins would be most helpful for our cause.

We want the Big East to have as many quality teams as possible. St. Johns and DePaul have no shot at tournament.  Also we have already played St. Johns twice. 

At this point we have to win as many as possible and hope the teams we beat are considered quality wins. So to that end Seton Hall and Butler having good resumes helps us if we beat them. 

[BM1090]

It all depends on who finishes where. Marquette needs 11-7 and at least one at MSG to be a lock. Creighton and Georgetown also likely need 11 wins in league to have a good shot at getting in. Seton Hall would likely get there with 10 while 8 would be enough for Butler and Providence. Villanova and Xavier are practically locks already. 7-8 wins for either should be more than enough to get them in.

I think 10-8 with 2 BET wins would do it as well. That'd give us an estimated RPI of 54 and 23 wins. That should be enough.

[brewcity77]

I think 10-8 with 2 BET wins would do it as well. That'd give us an estimated RPI of 54 and 23 wins. That should be enough.

Agreed. Any combination of 23 wins should make us a lock. The only worry there is we are counting on the committee to value conference tourney games. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

[Herman Cain]

Butler and the Hall with solid wins boosting their records.

Looking forward to playing Butler . Should be a fun game.

[Herman Cain]

DePaul gave them a game for about 15 minutes but eventually Xavier pulled away and won.