Bill Scholl interview in Milwaukee Business Journal

[MUfan12]

Say what you will about Crean, but keeping on the starters twice to drop a hundo on UWM was awesome.

As Keefe said, Haidet and Pearl deserved every last point after how they acted.

[77ncaachamps]

If we continue not to play UWM, does their basketball program even exist?

[keefe]

If we continue not to play UWM, does their basketball program even exist?

Is the Pope Polish?

[MUDPT]

Talked to someone at Under Armor, said MU is unhappy with the service with Nike and looking to switch in 2? years when the contract is up.

[real chili 83]

Thanks Sultan. What's the average cost of a game?

[MarquetteDano]

My only question is:  "With this be good for basketball in the state of Wisconsin"?

Oh, and when the series is renewed how expensive will the scalped seats in section 431 go for?  Will I have any chance to at least get SRO seats for the game?


Seriously though if the two schools can agree I have no problem with the series.  As some have stated this should be better than the Grambling RPI killers of the world.

[GGGG]

Thanks Sultan. What's the average cost of a game?

I actually don't know this.  It has been speculated here before, but I think it might be something like $100,000?  I maybe completely off on this.

[Brewtown Andy]

I actually don't know this.  It has been speculated here before, but I think it might be something like $100,000?  I maybe completely off on this.

Probably variable based on how far the team in question has to travel.

[MUfan12]

Talked to someone at Under Armor, said MU is unhappy with the service with Nike and looking to switch in 2? years when the contract is up.

This is interesting. I'll admit, I'm a little skeptical that the basketball team would leave their Jordan Brand deal behind.

[Brewtown Andy]

Yup, go back in history on this board, or the other board, or simply the papers.  Wash, rinse, repeat.  The same arguments have been made for 20+ years.  How great it will be for the city, how it will reinvigorate.....doesn't happen.

The attendance for the last run of games against UWM:

07-08 - 18,283.  Marquette won, 100-65.
08-09 - 15,168.  Marquette won, 100-80. (apparently interest fell off since the year before. Wonder why.)
09-10 - 14,244.  Marquette won, 71-51.  (huh, interest fell off again.)
10-11 - 7,120 at the Cell.  Marquette won, 75-72.
11-12 - 14,917.  Marquette won, 64-50.  UWM losing by 3 in a game where I never felt that they were really threatening MU caused a jump in attendance of a whole 673 people from the last time the game was played in the BC.

For comparison purposes, in 11-12, Marquette drew crowds of 13,834, 12,765, 12,848, 14,208, and 13,593 for their other buy game opponents.

The 14K game was against Green Bay.

[JWags85]

This is interesting. I'll admit, I'm a little skeptical that the basketball team would leave their Jordan Brand deal behind.

Exactly.  Being an UA school is great and has a lot of buzz these days and would make sense for a typical Nike school, but being Jordan Brand is really special IMHO, and as long as the list of Jordan Brand schools remains small, which I think it will, I don't see them leaving.

[warriorchick]

Exactly.  Being an UA school is great and has a lot of buzz these days and would make sense for a typical Nike school, but being Jordan Brand is really special IMHO, and as long as the list of Jordan Brand schools remains small, which I think it will, I don't see them leaving.

I wouldn't be surprised if Marquette flirts with UA a little bit in an attempt to incent Nike to give them a sweeter deal. And of course, anyone involved in UA marketing is going to say that Marquette is interested, no matter the true amount of interest.  Sales guy talk.

However, IMO Nike would still have the upper hand due tothe prestige factor.  There are plenty of schools that would kill to have a deal with the Jordan Brand.

[GGGG]

Exactly.  Being an UA school is great and has a lot of buzz these days and would make sense for a typical Nike school, but being Jordan Brand is really special IMHO, and as long as the list of Jordan Brand schools remains small, which I think it will, I don't see them leaving.

Michigan is going to be, I believe, only the fifth "Jumpman" school.

That being said, the best thing this contract can give Marquette is money.  I don't know what is so special about it that would give Marquette a reason to take a less lucrative contract.

[warriorchick]

Michigan is going to be, I believe, only the fifth "Jumpman" school.

That being said, the best thing this contract can give Marquette is money.  I don't know what is so special about it that would give Marquette a reason to take a less lucrative contract.

If you listen to some of the folks on this board, our licensing deal affects recruiting.

I don't believe that, but if the offers are in the same ballpark, I do think the prestige of the brand has some value to MU, as opposed to a relative upstart like UA. Anyone else remember when Shaq signed with Reebok, which  at the time was mainly known as a company that made shoes that women wore to their aerobics classes?  I think he still catches crap about that.

[Litehouse]

Jordan is still considered the premiere shoe brand for bball players.  I don't know how much exactly that helps with recruiting, but it helps at least some, and also helps get kids attention and differentiate us from other schools.  I'm sure there's a price to that though, and if UA would double our current offer from Jordan/Nike we'd probably switch.

[mu03eng]

Here's the list of Jumpman sponsored college basketball teams.  Not quite as elite as I thought, but I don't think you walk away from this to go to UA unless there is a considerable difference in revenue.


California Golden Bears
Georgetown Hoyas
Marquette Golden Eagles
North Carolina Tar Heels
Oakland Golden Grizzlies
Fresno State Bulldogs
Wright State Raiders
Michigan Wolverines

[Benny B]

Thanks Sultan. What's the average cost of a game?

The amount of a buy game depends on a number of factors, including day/date, proximity, how desperate the host is to schedule a game, the quality of the visitor, the location (e.g. Nova who has two "home" courts), and TV rights (low-major schools may take less for the opportunity to be on a cable network, while mid-majors, who provide a more competitive match-up and/or better ratings draw, may want more).

I've heard of buy games being as low as $60,000 and as much as $200,000, but generally, Sultan is probably pretty much nuts-on with the median being right around $100,000.  I am speculating, but I would think there's probably also a pretty decent correlation between a school's rolling-average RPI and the cost of their buy game.


All of that said... the UWM series is "meh" IMO.  For the same reason UK overloads on neutral-site games early in the year, one of the main benefits of away games in non-conference play is acclimating your team to playing on the road (and, perhaps, in a hostile environment) before the conference season starts.  UWM doesn't provide that benefit.  While I'm not opposed to a 4-for-1, or even a 3-for-1, with a mid-major opponent, I would rather it be with UWGB that at least provides something of a road game "feel" to it.

[PaintTouches]

Here's the list of Jumpman sponsored college basketball teams.  Not quite as elite as I thought, but I don't think you walk away from this to go to UA unless there is a considerable difference in revenue.


California Golden Bears
Georgetown Hoyas
Marquette Golden Eagles
North Carolina Tar Heels
Oakland Golden Grizzlies
Fresno State Bulldogs
Wright State Raiders
Michigan Wolverines

While Oakland, Fresno and Wright State wear Jordan uniforms, they are not sponsored by Jordan. Only UNC, Cal, Georgetown, MU (and now Michigan) are Jumpman schools. http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/07/michigans_move_to_nike_include.html

[GGGG]

Here's the list of Jumpman sponsored college basketball teams.  Not quite as elite as I thought, but I don't think you walk away from this to go to UA unless there is a considerable difference in revenue.


California Golden Bears
Georgetown Hoyas
Marquette Golden Eagles
North Carolina Tar Heels
Oakland Golden Grizzlies
Fresno State Bulldogs
Wright State Raiders
Michigan Wolverines

Define "considerable."  10% increase?  25%? 

[mu_hilltopper]

My favorite CS post .. December 2007.  What was the score?  100-65 or something?

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2007/12/marquette-broke-contract-wuwm-21.html

[CoachRaymondsClass]

Exactly.  Being an UA school is great and has a lot of buzz these days and would make sense for a typical Nike school, but being Jordan Brand is really special IMHO, and as long as the list of Jordan Brand schools remains small, which I think it will, I don't see them leaving.

Not picking on this poster because I don't think he was the one with lack of focus and went completely tangental off-topic,  but how did MU/Jordan Jump Man discussion get into a good thread about "Bill Scholl interview in Milwaukee Business Journal" and subset part about MU
playing U of WI-Milwaukee???

Some here may find this cutely Scoop wacky, but I see it as Scoop's Attention Deficit Disorder which detracts from the discussion. Changing uniform supplier is a worthy subject so start a thread. OK- attack - and why not throw some Chuck Norris jokes in too.

[real chili 83]

Not picking on this poster because I don't think he was the one with lack of focus and went completely tangental off-topic,  but how did MU/Jordan Jump Man discussion get into a good thread about "Bill Scholl interview in Milwaukee Business Journal" and subset part about MU
playing U of WI-Milwaukee???

Some here may find this cutely Scoop wacky, but I see it as Scoop's Attention Deficit Disorder which detracts from the discussion. Changing uniform supplier is a worthy subject so start a thread. OK- attack - and why not throw some Chuck Norris jokes in too.

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Do you prefer minnows or crawlers for early season walleyes?  Spinners or jigs?

[swoopem]

Say what you will about Crean, but keeping on the starters twice to drop a hundo on UWM was awesome.

As Keefe said, Haidet and Pearl deserved every last point after how they acted.

What did Haidet and Pearl do to MU? I haven't heard about this. 

[Benny B]

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Do you prefer minnows or crawlers for early season walleyes?  Spinners or jigs?

Depends on what kind of minnows and what is native to the lake.



Which, by the way, native to Scoop is all things doom and gloom, which apparently, includes a potential rekindling of the UWM series according to those chumming around here.

[GGGG]

What did Haidet and Pearl do to MU? I haven't heard about this. 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/panthers/29213629.html

UWM approached the whole thing stupidly.  On the one hand they wanted to be treated more like equals, but on the other hand they wanted more money.  UWM didn't really understand that a Sweet 16 didn't alter the pecking order of Milwaukee college basketball.  In retrospect, these negotiations seem especially foolish.  Marquette won all five games, won the BE, got to an E8 and two additional S16s, while UWM is on academic probation and can't figure out where to play its games.  And is an athletic department in complete disarray.  (I know people there..."it is a f**king mess" is what I have been told.)