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chapman

Better than our semi-annual series with Grambling.  No need to be too cheap to play them, or too afraid that the world will end if we actually lose.

keefe

The behavior of Haidet and Pearl was ridiculous. We have no reason to play those guys ever again.

This isn't about fear of losing to them. It is about their absolute irrelevance to the Marquette athletic paradigm.


Death on call

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Quote from: chapman on October 16, 2015, 11:49:24 PM
Better than our semi-annual series with Grambling.  No need to be too cheap to play them, or too afraid that the world will end if we actually lose.

It's not better if they cost MU more money.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: PTM on October 17, 2015, 07:36:44 AM
It's not better if they cost MU more money.

I believe that Chapman was talking about better in terms of competitiveness (and therefore fan viewability) and RPI.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Nukem2

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 16, 2015, 06:25:02 PM
Why UWM...why?  Does Nothing for MU.
Still far better than all those sub-300 RPI schools.  Ugh.

79Warrior

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 16, 2015, 06:25:02 PM
Why UWM...why?  Does Nothing for MU.

Better matchup than several of the non conference jokers we are playing.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Nukem2 on October 17, 2015, 09:54:53 AM
Still far better than all those sub-300 RPI schools.  Ugh.

But that's not what the tradeofff is, thus the problem.

UWM isn't taking the place of a 300 RPI school.  Because they will deman at least one game in return out of 5 or whatever.  Thus, apples to oranges.

Plus, it just doesn't do anything for MU.  It's fantasy land. Zero upside.

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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 17, 2015, 11:08:11 AM
But that's not what the tradeofff is, thus the problem.

UWM isn't taking the place of a 300 RPI school.  Because they will deman at least one game in return out of 5 or whatever.  Thus, apples to oranges.

Plus, it just doesn't do anything for MU.  It's fantasy land. Zero upside.

+1. Yup.

If UWM wants the same going rate as every other buy team, drive their asses to H-D Arena for their yearly taint smacking, and not ask for anything in return, then it's a great idea.

Anything outside of that is not good for MU.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: PTM on October 17, 2015, 11:40:15 AM
+1. Yup.

If UWM wants the same going rate as every other buy team, drive their asses to H-D Arena for their yearly taint smacking, and not ask for anything in return, then it's a great idea.

Anything outside of that is not good for MU.

Which we know they will not do.  Thus, this idea that it "is better than a 300 RPI dog" is a false argument because they aren't taking the place of a 300 RPI dog.  In that year we have to play an away game, it causes other scheduling issues.

No thanks. 

keefe

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 17, 2015, 11:08:11 AM

UWM isn't taking the place of a 300 RPI school.  Because they will deman at least one game in return out of 5 or whatever.

Forgive me for saying but who the f#ck is UWM to demand anything of Marquette?

Ignore them.


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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: keefe on October 17, 2015, 02:15:58 PM
Forgive me for saying but who the f#ck is UWM to demand anything of Marquette?

Ignore them.

Amen

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Eldon

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 17, 2015, 11:08:11 AM
But that's not what the tradeofff is, thus the problem.

UWM isn't taking the place of a 300 RPI school.  Because they will deman at least one game in return out of 5 or whatever.  Thus, apples to oranges.

Plus, it just doesn't do anything for MU.  It's fantasy land. Zero upside.

That doesn't sound too bad, IMO.  I mean, one game out of five MU has to travel across the street?  Would that not boost MU RPI, i.e., RPI calculates it as a road game despite being 500 feet away from the Bradley Center?

As I see it, I would much rather have option 1 over option 2
Option 1: UWM at BMO four games, MU at US Cellular one game
Option 2: Grambling/other air-filled cupcakes at BMO five games


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Eldon on October 17, 2015, 06:31:19 PM
That doesn't sound too bad, IMO.  I mean, one game out of five MU has to travel across the street?  Would that not boost MU RPI, i.e., RPI calculates it as a road game despite being 500 feet away from the Bradley Center?

As I see it, I would much rather have option 1 over option 2
Option 1: UWM at BMO four games, MU at US Cellular one game
Option 2: Grambling/other air-filled cupcakes at BMO five games

You are missing the greater point...$$$, etc.   If you're going to play away games that are non-conference, they should be against higher quality teams. 

There's a reason UCLA doesn't play "road" games at Loyola Marymount, Cal State Northridge, etc.

So on and so forth.  It makes no sense.

GGGG

I'd rather have Marquette play Grambling than UWM regardless of the RPI implications.

And never again at their place.

CoachRaymondsClass

Quote from: keefe on October 17, 2015, 02:15:58 PM
Forgive me for saying but who the f#ck is UWM to demand anything of Marquette?

Ignore them.
I agree, as well as agree with Chico's point about lost $ for MU. I also concur with those who say if the "Dash" wants to play us so badly, do it as simply another Buy Game. To me, this is just another example of anti-MU media bias in Milwaukee.

1. the reporter went to UW-M
2. Look at his copy:"Although Marquette has dominated the basketball series with UW-M's men's team, local college basketball fans still wonder whether the two schools might meet again." Really? MU fans, alums and students don't care, or at minimum aren't calling for it. UWM doesn't have many fans as their attendance shows, and past games have proven no major incremental increases in attendance.

3. Look at the UW-M AD comment: "A game between Milwaukee and Marquette would energize our alumni, students and fans as well as be great for the city by helping generate interest in college basketball early in the season," Braun said. It is all about trying to help UW-M with their puny 2 thousand/game attendance. I don't anticipate the city of Milwaukee getting too excited about the matchup.

MU's AD handled this well.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: CoachRaymondsClass on October 17, 2015, 09:22:55 PM
I agree, as well as agree with Chico's point about lost $ for MU. I also concur with those who say if the "Dash" wants to play us so badly, do it as simply another Buy Game. To me, this is just another example of anti-MU media bias in Milwaukee.

1. the reporter went to UW-M
2. Look at his copy:"Although Marquette has dominated the basketball series with UW-M's men's team, local college basketball fans still wonder whether the two schools might meet again." Really? MU fans, alums and students don't care, or at minimum aren't calling for it. UWM doesn't have many fans as their attendance shows, and past games have proven no major incremental increases in attendance.

3. Look at the UW-M AD comment: "A game between Milwaukee and Marquette would energize our alumni, students and fans as well as be great for the city by helping generate interest in college basketball early in the season," Braun said. It is all about trying to help UW-M with their puny 2 thousand/game attendance. I don't anticipate the city of Milwaukee getting too excited about the matchup.

MU's AD handled this well.

Yup, go back in history on this board, or the other board, or simply the papers.  Wash, rinse, repeat.  The same arguments have been made for 20+ years.  How great it will be for the city, how it will reinvigorate.....doesn't happen.   

dgies9156

Quote from: keefe on October 17, 2015, 02:15:58 PM
Forgive me for saying but who the f#ck is UWM to demand anything of Marquette?

Ignore them.

I have said this many times. Big Schools play Big Schools.

Little Schools Play Little Schools.

We've upgraded our program and are now again a BIG SCHOOL. UWM is an also ran in their conference, which makes them a little school.

Any questions?

real chili 83


GGGG

Quote from: real chili 83 on October 18, 2015, 09:28:17 AM
What is the definition of a "buy game"?


A game that you pay another school to play on your home court with no future expectations for a return visit.

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